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Oct 25th, 2008, 10:05am
 
First I've got to say that this NOT an original idea. I first borrowed this (more like an improved version of this) from Vicroamer to measure the OPV pressure a few months back. Haven't thought about it anymore until the OPV thread from seedlings came and it got me thinking again. Below are everything you need to make your own PF gauge:
1. PF with spouts removed
2. Spanners - adjustable will do
3. Pressure gauge - rated to 1600 kPA, 1/8" (or 6ml) BSP Thread
4. Adapters to make the 1/8" fit onto the PF thread
5. Plumbers tape

I got the pressure gauge and adapters from Reece plumbing for a total cost of $21.50, $16 for the gaug and the rest for the 2 adapters. Plumbers tape 80 cents from Bunnings. If you bring your PF gauge along, the guys at Reece will be able to get the correct adapters which takes out the guesswork of what size and thread type to ask for.
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Re: Home-made Portafilter (PF) Gauge for under $25
Reply #1 - Oct 25th, 2008, 10:11am
 
Putting it together is no rocket science. You'll need to wrap the male threads with the plumbers tape at least a couple of times to make it watertight. Use spanners to grip the adapters and the gauge inlet because the cheap gauges are made of plastic and if you try to tighten the connection using the gauge face, you'll break it. The only downside of this setup is the gauge is upside down and for some machines, you might not have a lot of space underneath the brew head which means you might need to get 90 degree type adapters. Mine was ok if I removed the drip tray.
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Reply #2 - Oct 25th, 2008, 10:16am
 
Accuracy? Well, prior to borrowing Vicroamer's, I had measured the OPV using a real PF gauge and it measured 12 bar. Then I took vicroamers and it measured 12 bar on the dot. Adjusted the OPV so it read 9.5 bar. That was a few months ago. Measured it again yesterday using this one and it measured 9.8 bar. Don't know if it's the accuracy or perhaps over time, the OPV might hve tighted up a notch, but its no cause for concern. It does a decent job for less than $25.
BTW: 1 bar = 100 kPA
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Reply #3 - Oct 25th, 2008, 10:31am
 
Nice one. Do you supply wholesale  Wink

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Reply #4 - Oct 25th, 2008, 11:20am
 
Great idea.  How deep is it from pf to gauge N2E?

I guess the calibration needs to be considered. You already had something to measure against .

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Reply #5 - Oct 25th, 2008, 12:07pm
 
From the bottom of the PF to the bottom of the gauge is about 10cm. That sounds like there is enough space but you also have to add a bit more space because before you lock in the PF it is lower yet and then you raise it slightly to fit it onto the head and lock t in.
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Reply #6 - Oct 25th, 2008, 1:48pm
 
Great idea! I was hunting some ideas on exactly this some time ago but something came up. I thought of a right-angle joiner to get around the depth problem of the gauge. Is your gauge fluid-filled? If not do you find it oscillates under load?

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Reply #7 - Oct 25th, 2008, 2:27pm
 
Doesn't oscillate at all. Its not liquid filled.
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Reply #8 - Oct 25th, 2008, 3:01pm
 
Nice one NtoE  Wink
A cautionary note, water pressure gauges are generally not rated to espresso machine temperatures, just a matter of being on the safe side and checking pressure before water gets to hot.
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Reply #9 - Oct 25th, 2008, 3:57pm
 
vicroamer wrote on Oct 25th, 2008, 3:01pm:
Nice one NtoE  Wink
A cautionary note, water pressure gauges are generally not rated to espresso machine temperatures, just a matter of being on the safe side and checking pressure before water gets to hot.


Ah yes, I knew there was one other bit of instruction that you gave me when you lent me the gauge that I forgot to add in this thread. I remembered the plumbers tape bit and the not using the gauge face to tighten the connection bit.
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Reply #10 - Oct 25th, 2008, 5:34pm
 
I know it's the pump supplying the pressure but is there any significant difference in pressure at normal brewing temp?
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Reply #11 - Oct 25th, 2008, 7:34pm
 
flynn_aus wrote on Oct 25th, 2008, 5:34pm:
I know it's the pump supplying the pressure but is there any significant difference in pressure at normal brewing temp?

I think its more a case of damage done to the gauge from high temp water but the temp might affect how some of the components work too (heat expansion etc). In short... not sure so best measure at start up rather than after its gone hot for a few hours.
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Reply #12 - Oct 25th, 2008, 7:56pm
 
Good job NTE..... Cool

Now, if you want to get really finicky about this, what you need to do now is fit a suitable Needle Valve in between the gauge and the drain so that you can control the flow to equate to a normal espresso shot. This is the best way to set the OPV and removes the need to add a "fudge" factor to allow for the difference in pressure from a closed head to that with a 120ml/Sec flow.

If you want to be really picky about it, Wink

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Reply #13 - Oct 25th, 2008, 10:50pm
 
NewToEspresso wrote on Oct 25th, 2008, 7:34pm:
flynn_aus wrote on Oct 25th, 2008, 5:34pm:
I know it's the pump supplying the pressure but is there any significant difference in pressure at normal brewing temp?

I think its more a case of damage done to the gauge from high temp water but the temp might affect how some of the components work too (heat expansion etc). In short... not sure so best measure at start up rather than after its gone hot for a few hours.


Yeah I understood that but I meant that if you are then required to measure the pressure at lower than normal brew temp to protect the gauge, will the pressure reading be true at a lower temp?
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Reply #14 - Oct 26th, 2008, 12:21am
 
If you are referring to the OPV "flynnaus" this should be unaffected by the temperature of water in the Boiler, since the OPV is physically situated upstream from the Boiler and the water going through it is always cold.

On the other hand, if you are referring to the Gauge's accuracy as temperature is varied, then yes, there would be some variation but so long as you stay within the published operating parameters for the gauge you have, then the difference is of no real consequence. I guess if you wanted to find out exactly the differences you can expect, a message to the manufacturer may result in them supplying you with some application charts.

Usually though, what is normally done where the medium being measured exceeds the temperature rating of the best gauge you can afford, is the fitting of an intermediate diaphragm installed between the gauge and the medium being measured and any intervening space filled with a suitable buffer liquid... Quite often a viscous silicone oil. None of this would really be required to set up the OPV in an espresso machine though.

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Reply #15 - Oct 26th, 2008, 6:17am
 
Mal wrote on Oct 26th, 2008, 12:21am:
On the other hand, if you are referring to the Gauge's accuracy as temperature is varied, then yes, there would be some variation but so long as you stay within the published operating parameters for the gauge you have, then the difference is of no real consequence. I guess if you wanted to find out exactly the differences you can expect, a message to the manufacturer may result in them supplying you with some application charts.


Yes that was I meant. So the difference isn't that critical

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Usually though, what is normally done where the medium being measured exceeds the temperature rating of the best gauge you can afford, is the fitting of an intermediate diaphragm installed between the gauge and the medium being measured and any intervening space filled with a suitable buffer liquid... Quite often a viscous silicone oil. None of this would really be required to set up the OPV in an espresso machine though.


Thanks Mal. That's what I wanted to know. Vicroamer/N2E's device is pretty much as good as a commercial unit but I imagine some sort of calibration would be advisable.
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Reply #16 - Nov 3rd, 2008, 9:44pm
 
This might be a silly question, but what is the benefit of running your machine at 9.5 instead of 12bar?
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Reply #17 - Nov 4th, 2008, 5:26pm
 
cyrilgoldenrock wrote: Quote:
This might be a silly question, but what is the benefit of running your machine at 9.5 instead of 12bar?


Cyril, i'm far from experienced but in my case after spending weeks of absolute frustration with bitter shots due to blonding and seeing the gauge on my machine shooting up around the 12 bar mark i decided to act after getting some feedback from a fellow CS'er  Smiley

i backed the pressure off till the gauge was reading around the 10.5 bar area and i havent looked back  Wink
ok, i will admit i still get the occasional channeling on some shots which is technique related but things have certainly settled down and a lot more consistent, but at least im actually using my machine again and its not sitting idle like it was when the pressure was set high but the best part about all this is the coffee is the best tasting coffee ive made so far  Smiley

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Reply #18 - Nov 4th, 2008, 7:43pm
 
Thanks Banjo.
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