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Jul 25th, 2010, 10:32am
 
Does anyone else find this difficult to dial in? I'm struggling. I've had to move the Mazzer at least 3 or 4 notches coarser to get a pour from this to the point where I've had to change my dosing technique - no tap to level the grounds otherwise I'm having to grind so coarse it may as well be French Press.
When I don't do a levelling tap it results in quite a thin puck - at least it seems that way to me.
Is it just me and the moon phase and the espresso devils or does anyone else have issues dialing in this bean?
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Re: Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2010, 12:09pm
 
Yes, I find it needs a much coarser grind than any other coffees I use. It's great once you get it right though.
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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2010, 5:01pm
 

gbatterley wrote on Jul 25th, 2010, 10:32am:
Does anyone else find this difficult to dial in?


I must say that I don't notice.  All coffees are different in the espresso machine so the first shot of anything is always to dial it in, the 2nd shot is pretty close and normally drinkable and by the 3rd its pretty spot-on and only tiny changes needed after that.

maryb wrote on Jul 25th, 2010, 12:09pm:
It's great once you get it right though


Yep!  I had this in my grinder at the Snobbery every other day last week and I, and others all loved the result.

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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2010, 10:23pm
 
I think I was just a bit thrown by how coarse I had to grind it compared to previous beans I've had. But I'm only 6 or 7 months into making my own espresso so still learning. Looking forward to getting it right tomorrow morning.
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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2010, 9:09pm
 
i have had some uneven roasts, and quite a few dead beans throughout the roast. seems to be tainting my results, anyone else experiencing this..?
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Reply #5 - Jul 30th, 2010, 8:13am
 
jovro wrote on Jul 28th, 2010, 9:09pm:
i have had some uneven roasts, and quite a few dead beans throughout the roast. seems to be tainting my results, anyone else experiencing this..?


That's pretty normal for a dry processed bean.  I don't think it affects the flavours very much though... I used to pick them out (when I roasted smaller batches in the corretto) but gave up and didn't notice the difference.

Now that I'm roasting on my Has Garanti I've noticed I can get a much more even looking roast.   Cool

Persevere.  I had difficulties with this in the early days and called it my nemesis.  Now it's the one bean I'm always sure to have 20-30kg of in stock.
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Reply #6 - Aug 5th, 2010, 7:21am
 
I've been enjoying this bean for the last 5 days and then overnight it seemed to have changed and now just tastes like milk that is going off.  I actually thought it must have been the milk and bought new stuff but still no joy. Feel bad for pouring 1.5 L milk down the kitchen sink unnecessarily now. Roll Eyes has this happened to anyone else?
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Reply #7 - Aug 5th, 2010, 12:32pm
 
How old is it post-roast?  I find it's usually ok for couple of weeks and peaks after about a week.  I roast it a little lighter though CS8/9.
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Reply #8 - Aug 5th, 2010, 9:08pm
 
I took this to CS8 and love it. I agree, at first it did choke the machine and I had to take the grind back much courser than usual, but once it was dialled in it was beautiful and good whichever way it's made - awesome in the aeropress.
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Re: Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2010, 11:36pm
 
mum2three wrote on Aug 5th, 2010, 7:21am:
I've been enjoying this bean for the last 5 days and then overnight it seemed to have changed and now just tastes like milk that is going off.  I actually thought it must have been the milk and bought new stuff but still no joy. Feel bad for pouring 1.5 L milk down the kitchen sink unnecessarily now. Roll Eyes has this happened to anyone else?

Hmmm....

Sounds like your espresso shots are pouring a little sour there Mum. I can't remember what your espresso hardware consists of but maybe you need to try running a few taste tests of the espresso alone and see if that is where the 'sourness' is coming from.

The sorts of things that can contribute to 'sour' shots are, for example... Brew Water temperature a little low; under-extracted pour - grind slightly coarse, dose slightly low....

Play around with these a bit and see if this improves the pour quality. All the best mate.... Smiley

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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2010, 1:11pm
 
Mal wrote on Aug 5th, 2010, 11:36pm:
Sounds like your espresso shots are pouring a little sour there Mum. I can't remember what your espresso hardware consists of but maybe you need to try running a few taste tests of the espresso alone and see if that is where the 'sourness' is coming from.

The sorts of things that can contribute to 'sour' shots are, for example... Brew Water temperature a little low; under-extracted pour - grind slightly coarse, dose slightly low....

Play around with these a bit and see if this improves the pour quality. All the best mate....

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Thanks Mal.  I ground a little coarser and that helped enormously.  I also realised the bag I had them in wasn't sealing properly so I think I also staled them quickly.

Have another new batch roasted and resting in a new bag.

smokeydeck wrote on Aug 5th, 2010, 12:32pm:
How old is it post-roast?I find it's usually ok for couple of weeks and peaks after about a week.I roast it a little lighter though CS8/9.  


it was only about 8 days post roast but I staled them quickly with a poor quality bag.
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Reply #11 - Aug 8th, 2010, 1:33pm
 
yep... these beans like a coarser grind.  good one Mal.
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Reply #12 - Aug 11th, 2010, 5:15pm
 
Just roasted 600g of Longberry, couldn't wait so I did a Clever Coffee Dripper brew 20 mins post-roast, the dry aroma was amazing, huge blueberry notes and oh so sweet.
It produced a lovely clean buttery mouthfeel with the berry notes very prominent, I'm impressed Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #13 - Aug 16th, 2010, 11:08pm
 
I havnt had a chance to try the longberry yet.. hoping to verrrryyy soon!
but does anyone know how this bean compares to the Bluehorse harrar?

Edit: from the above comments it sounds somewhat similar, just wondering if there was anyone out there who has tried both and could offer a comparison.  note: bluehorse is probs my fav bean Smiley
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Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2010, 9:31am
 
greenman wrote on Aug 11th, 2010, 5:15pm:
Just roasted 600g of Longberry, couldn't wait so I did a Clever Coffee Dripper brew 20 mins post-roast, the dry aroma was amazing, huge blueberry notes and oh so sweet.
It produced a lovely clean buttery mouthfeel with the berry notes very prominent, I'm impressed Smiley Smiley Smiley



This is my favourite summer bean for cold press.  An absolute treat in manual brewing methods.  I roast it a few degrees shy of second crack, CS8/9.
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Reply #15 - Aug 17th, 2010, 11:35am
 
kotaro wrote on Aug 16th, 2010, 11:08pm:
I havnt had a chance to try the longberry yet.. hoping to verrrryyy soon!
but does anyone know how this bean compares to the Bluehorse harrar?


They are similar in style.  We used to get the Blue Horse until we found this one, it wins the blind taste test over and over.
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Reply #16 - Aug 17th, 2010, 3:35pm
 
Andy Freeman wrote on Aug 17th, 2010, 11:35am:
kotaro wrote on Aug 16th, 2010, 11:08pm:
I havnt had a chance to try the longberry yet.. hoping to verrrryyy soon!
but does anyone know how this bean compares to the Bluehorse harrar?


They are similar in style.  We used to get the Blue Horse until we found this one, it wins the blind taste test over and over.


Awesome, I'm deffs excited to try it then.
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Reply #17 - Aug 18th, 2010, 9:30am
 
Just pulled a very tight doppio ristretto of the longberry 7 days post-roast, dry aroma was huge blueberry notes, initial hit of blueberry and fruit, thick viscous mouthfeel followed by choc/cocoa lingering aftertaste--glad I ordered some more of these babies Wink Wink Smiley Smiley
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Reply #18 - Aug 18th, 2010, 3:21pm
 
From the BeanBay description Quote:
"Don't worry about a slotchy coloured roast"

Well I'm more worried about this Freemanism - is it splotchy or blotchy or is this a new term invented to describe an uneven roasting characteristic? Never mind, I think I know the answer to that  Lips Sealed

Is this crop different quality-wise to the Harar Longberry from last year? Greenman's descriptions sounds mouth-watering. I did buy a Clever dripper. I think I'll run a batch through the Baby roaster tonight and give it a try.
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Reply #19 - Aug 24th, 2010, 11:22am
 
These are the sweetest beans I've had in a while.    Nice as a piccolo latte and only the slightest hint of sugar required.
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Reply #20 - Aug 25th, 2010, 11:18am
 
So I roasted 600g green (510g roasted) of this on Saturday arvo after the pickup, taking it about 30 seconds into second crack.  My previous roast was running low so I just left the bag open for a few days before putting it through the grinder last night.
As described by Andy, it pours as quite a thin espresso, and while the crema struggles to hold up to milk, the berry notes certainly don't.  It's like a warm blueberry milkshake Smiley
It also makes for an extremely sweet, bright espresso where the blueberry really comes through.

All in all one of my favorite beans & roasts to date.
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Re: Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Reply #21 - Aug 26th, 2010, 9:49am
 
Maybe I've got eat more blueberries to recognise what it taste/smells like.. I've just tried this bean 5 days post roast and it was roasted light so as to enhance the fruitiness. I can't seem to detect blueberries in it. Then again, I probably won't detect blueberries if it hit me in the face, so how do I train my palate for that?
That said, it was very nice and distinctly different from the others I've had recently which included the Brazil pulped Natural, Peru Ceja, Ethiopian Yirg... Just how different I can't seem to describe or recognise.
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Re: Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Reply #22 - Sep 5th, 2010, 11:01am
 
I've got to say NTE that from both roasts I've done so far, I've really only gotten the really intense in your face berry flavour the day I open the bag.  After that it's very subdued & has more of a hint of berry.  Has anyone else noticed this?  I get all excited day 1, then feel a sense of disappointment when it's not the same day 2.
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