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    What size is a Piccolo???

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    The Piccolo has become my fovourite dirnk, I discovered it at Di Bella in Brisbane and found it to be the right size for me. Its about a 75ml glass. I have since had it at various coffee shops in various sizes, from a half filled 8oz takeaway cup to a full 8oz glass.

    My question is "What size is the Piccolo suppose to pucking be?"

    (been reading about puck art) ;D

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Its possible everyone will have a different answer, but I think generally 80-100 mls.

    I too love Piccolos. Just be careful when ordering them, some places seem to mistake piccolo latte for soy latte; it must be my thick aussie accent. ;D

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Thanks ACog
    That was my thoughts too

    My understanding it that Piccolo is Italian for small.
    Not sure how you would misunderstand piccolo for soy :-?

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    I find if you order a "small latte" however, they tend to give you a normal latte, as opposed to a starbucks 5 gallon latte.

    Ordering in a language I dont speak somehow conveys the fact I want a SMALL latte.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Excerpt from The Coffeehouse Dictionary
    http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:1bqikPdmoCoJ:www.geocities.com/connorbd/coffee/coffeewords.html+meaning+coffee+term+%22piccolo%22 &cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk

    Size -- Coffee house sizes are a world unto themselves. The three that would probably be most frequently understood would be short (Italian piccolo), tall (alto), and grande; these usually, though not always, correspond to small, medium and large. At Starbucks, these sizes are eight, twelve and sixteen ounces; there is also a twenty-ounce size called the Venti, which is the Italian word for twenty

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    I like to work on about 1 part espresso to 1-2 parts milk. So if its a single shot, 60-90mls or so. Double, 120... etc

    Most of the places I have asked for it (and not had to explain what I wanted) I have received a largish shot glass (prob about 75mls like you got at DiBella. It really depends on where you get it from though. Once I remember getting a small latte glass with a metal handle.

    More recently Ive been drinking strong fws instead because I can get a few shots and have it last more than 2 sips.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Quote Originally Posted by 417872727E7D7E5D70656574110 link=1239136576/5#5 date=1240532119
    Double, 120... etc
    Thats the range I work to as well... 8-)

    Too much milk and flavour intensity starts to dwindle a little too much for me.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Order a picolo in perth and youre more likely to get around 120mls. Me, i go for 90

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Oops... :-[

    I misread your post "PL"... I was referring to a Piccolo based on a Double with an all-up volume of around 120ml and maybe up to a max of 150ml for a roast with "bite"...

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    No, thats what I meant too Mal, and I totally agree about the milk taking over sometimes.

    My ratio thing was based on a std shot of say 30mls... Plus between 30 and 60 mls of milk (1:1-2)

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Quote Originally Posted by 172E2424282B280B26333322470 link=1239136576/9#9 date=1240632742
    No, thats what I meant too Mal, and I totally agree about the milk taking over sometimes.

    My ratio thing was based on a std shot of say 30mls... Plus between 30 and 60 mls of milk (1:1-2)
    Ahh, excellent.... 8-)

    While I do enjoy strong-ish milk coffee drinks, I cant really take to mixing proportions that result in the milk being more than 150% of the original shot volume... Even the pure Robusta S.O. I had a go at earlier today. Milks nice, in small doses ;)

    Mal.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Agreed Mal

    To much milk sits in my stomach to heavily, hence the piccolo.

    Thanks for the input guys
    BTW this site is fantastic ;D

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    I purchased some 50ml ACF cups today for ristrettos, short machs and piccolo lattes. I pull a double ristretto 20ml and top up with milk it makes a lovely rich drink without the milk drowning out the coffee. Bewdifulll!! :D :D

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    My ratio thing was based on a std shot of say 30mls... Plus between 30 and 60 mls of milk (1:1-2)

    Just used this ratio but my double shot (18gms) was in 30ml and added 60ml milk, fantastic :)

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Steaming 60ml of milk in even a 300ml jug is going to be a challenge. anyone know if a 150ml jug is available?

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Quote Originally Posted by 557E6C4F745E686B697E6868741B0 link=1239136576/14#14 date=1282783134
    Steaming 60ml of milk in even a 300ml jug is going to be a challenge. anyone know if a 150ml jug is available?
    I dont know if a 150ml jug is available but I do have some 30ml ones usually used for serving the steamed milk on the side so the customer can add the amount they like.

    It is possible to actually steam 15ml of milk in one of these if you are really, really careful.

    So yeah, it would be a challenge to steam 60ml in a 300ml jug but its possible with care.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Another piccolo convert here. Im doing 2x90mL in the morning. Its basically the same as doing the double into my 200mL latte glass (as opposed to my usual 310mL latte from a double), but with the piccolo I get two of them (twice the fun) and they look cute. I find at this strength, the smooth taste of the coffee is still in my mouth 20 minutes later.

    I steam the milk in a 300mL pitcher by touch, which is pretty quick and easy.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    you can try to get those creamer/milk jugs to serve milk for teas :) ive seen them around. theyre pretty small. they would certainly help.

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    I love to make my piccolos with a ristretto shot, its pleasant with a punch!

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    Depending on the intensity of the blend/SO, I either use a single shot in my 70mL ACF cups, or a single or double ristretto in my Duralex 90mL cups (to be honest, I do this more that the former, and for cheap glassware, think theyre lovely to drink from). The Duralex Picarde 90mL glasses also fit perfectly on the saucers that come with the 70mL ACF cups (handy so you dont burn your fingers while carrying them to the table/place of consumption).

    I figure if you go much less milk, youre pushing into short macchiato territory (which is nice too).

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    love the ratio idea... had never thought of it that way, just found a smaller cup (around 80-90mls) but i think in essence, it works.
    and, as i ask more and more people why they go for the piccolo, the majority of the time, it does come down to too much milk. i just assumed it was a strength thing.
    thats what you get for being a tried and true ristretto drinker.

    :P

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    Re: What size is a Piccolo???

    A bit off topic but I think this thread was my first one started, and about 3 years ago from memory.

    How the knowledge increases over time ;D

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    The folks at OrbitVisual were good enough to put together an Espresso Field Guide, which covers most variations (although, surprisingly, the Piccolo isn't represented). I can't post links, but Google "Espresso Field Guide" and "OrbitVisual" and it'll come up.

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    Hmmm I love a piccolo. I make mine 1 part coffee to 2 parts milk.

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    Half the size of a flute.



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    Are you sure it's not a fife the size of a flute?

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    Haha PicalottA

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    Talk about coincidence...

    I once had a Piccolo Latte ( the coffee that is. I never went to band camp!) with a Alvear Pedro Ximenez PX.

    What is the reason for your name?

    On topic, our version of the Piccolo Latte in specialty cafes around Perth is a shot of espresso ( i tend to cut the shot off at 20 seconds for best results) and steamed milk to the top of a mini 75 ml latte glass. I found it's more like a 1 part espresso to 3 parts milk which tastes stronger than if I had a standard size latte.

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    I always make two at a time, so I've got a spare

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