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Thread: BeanBay Green Bean Release November / December 2017

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    BeanBay Green Bean Release November / December 2017

    BeanBay Green Bean Release November / December 2017

    Available in BeanBay now:



    Panama Boquete Bajo Volcancito



    Panama Boquete Bajo Volcancito is a high grown, strictly hard bean (SHB) from the Bajo Volcancito plantation. Clean, well graded and produces a great balance of sweetness and acidity with a smooth body and creamy mouthfeel at a CS9 roast depth.
    Fans of Central American beans should love this one.



    China Dai Muang Lem



    China Dai Muang Lem hails from the southern Yunnan province renowned for growing excellent tea and is now one of the premium coffee growing areas of China.
    Clean and very well processed this coffee is really easy to roast and will produce a balanced cup with good body. Exceptional value.




    Nicaragua SHB AA



    Nicaragua SHB AA while not a traditional sized grading for Central America, this AA sized bean is very well processed and high grown.
    Easy to roast and mid bodied, it's crisp and clean as a medium roast depth and has enough acidity to work well in milk based drinks.
    Very well priced for a Central of this high a quality.




    Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey



    Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey is a very special score. The Hartmann estate are renowned for pushing the growing and processing envelope and as far as I know this is the first and only black honey processed coffee in the world.
    The coffee fruit is left in contact with the seed for longer after picking, similar to a natural process then after the pulp is stripped-off the mucilage layer is left in the traditional Central American honey method. The unique combination of the two processing methods has produced a stunning fruity coffee.
    In lighter roasts this is juicy and sweet, something like a peach cordial with lower than usual acidity. Stunning competition level coffee that is a bargain at $21/kg








    ...the required fine print...
    (with the exception of the 1kg Geisha's and the 2kg Monsoons) All BeanBay green beans are packed in 2.5kg zippered cotton bags, perfect for storage for up to 3 years when kept in a cool, dark and dry position. We ship paid orders out from the Snobbery Monday to Thursday and BeanBay will show the available shipping options and actual freight costs to your area. Larger orders are typically cheaper to freight per kilogram so we suggest ordering all your requirements at once. We also strongly recommend that you ship to an attended address (eg: work or grandma's house) to avoid delivery delays. Monday to Thursday we will ship everything same day that we receive payment for but please remember bank lag means it will take at least a day for your payment to get to us even though your bank took it from you instantly. If you want it faster, don't procrastinate and please order earlier!


    Enjoy!

    Andy.
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    You spoil us! I was mere hours from pulling the trigger on the last release's Zimbabwe AA+ and it was replaced by the Hartmann.

    Wouldn't have minded any of the others to be honest but the cupboard is running out of space...
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    I cant believe I missed these by one day! I almost emailed to see if they were any exciting coming up... but i did not want to be annoying...Such is life

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCC View Post
    I cant believe I missed these by one day! I almost emailed to see if they were any exciting coming up... but i did not want to be annoying...Such is life
    I wouldn't have answered... 45,000 members, one email each, I could answer them all in about 17 years and by then near everyone would have emailed again each week asking why I didn't answer their last email. I'd get nothing done ever.

    Seriously though, when the beans have landed and are packed we put them into Beanbay.

    ...and you haven't missed anything UCC, they are in BeanBay now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey is a very special score. The Hartmann estate are renowned for pushing the growing and processing envelope and as far as I know this is the first and only black honey processed coffee in the world.
    The coffee fruit is left in contact with the seed for longer after picking, similar to a natural process then after the pulp is stripped-off the mucilage layer is left in the traditional Central American honey method.
    My friends and I have been enjoying the following black honey processed coffee for weeks:
    El Salvador Los Nogales El Roble Bourbon Black Honey.
    Cupping score of 88.
    Easy to roast and magnificent as espresso or filter.........

    Agree with you that this process makes the coffee "special".

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    Finca Patagonia ( El Salvador ) did a black honey, last year. 6 bags only.

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    I didn't know about the El Sal ones, there you go.
    I do know we have the whole planet's allotment of the Panama one though ;-)

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    Roasted two batches of the Black Honey, one fast one slow, both to the edge of SC. Then I googled what "black honey process" meant. Damn. Can't wait for this to be ready to drink, and to cup it side by side with my other fruit bomb (the Sidamo).

    I note the various sources recommend roasting it soon after receiving as it can go mouldy - is this correct?

    My biggest regret is that in 2018 I'm heading back to Singapore and won't have access to these releases anymore.

    By the way, this may be repetitive but your operations are just insane. I ordered shoe polish from a place in Sydney apparently 15 minutes away and it took 8 days to reach me. This Panama was being packed within 20 minutes of my order and arrived within a day, for the same shipping cost. I don't think I could drive to Melbourne in a much shorter time than that. If one day you feel like writing up how you set up your operations and processes, I'm sure you'd find many keen readers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apicius View Post
    I note the various sources recommend roasting it soon after receiving as it can go mouldy - is this correct?
    Nup, that would only be true if they didn't add the extra drying step at the end of processing to regulate the bean back to 10% moisture.

    By the way, this may be repetitive but your operations are just insane. I ordered shoe polish from a place in Sydney apparently 15 minutes away and it took 8 days to reach me. This Panama was being packed within 20 minutes of my order and arrived within a day, for the same shipping cost. I don't think I could drive to Melbourne in a much shorter time than that. If one day you feel like writing up how you set up your operations and processes, I'm sure you'd find many keen readers.
    Thanks for noticing! I often amaze myself at what we do but that does cause me to get frustrated by other online sellers of just about anything. From ebay sellers that take 3 days to get to the post office to online businesses that are still emailing back scanned hand written paperwork 4 days later. I wish everyone did what we do.

    Writeup? It's more simple than that, you just have to care about every order you touch and if humanly possible, ship it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Nup, that would only be true if they didn't add the extra drying step at the end of processing to regulate the bean back to 10% moisture.



    Thanks for noticing! I often amaze myself at what we do but that does cause me to get frustrated by other online sellers of just about anything. From ebay sellers that take 3 days to get to the post office to online businesses that are still emailing back scanned hand written paperwork 4 days later. I wish everyone did what we do.

    Writeup? It's more simple than that, you just have to care about every order you touch and if humanly possible, ship it out.
    When it comes to shipping Andy and co are the slickest operators I've dealt with in Oz, always well packed and fast, other retailers would do well to take lessons from him.
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    I can vouch for that too. I ordered the Behmor Brazen from Andy just a few months ago and he prepared it for shipping even before receiving the funds. I don’t know anyone in business who would send a parcel just on someone’s word that they’d done the transfer!

    This month’s beans sound amazing.

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    Since everyone else is giving there 2 cents so will I.... The last two times i ordered green beans I ordered on a Monday morning and both times it turned up Tuesday. I never get anything else that quick... On ya Andy!!

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    I placed i my first order with CS on Monday noon. My beans just showed up here in Sydney about an hour ago. 48 hours from order placement to receipt. Truly amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigk View Post
    I placed i my first order with CS on Monday noon. My beans just showed up here in Sydney about an hour ago. 48 hours from order placement to receipt. Truly amazing.
    That was actually slow because there was a public holiday in the middle of that (for a 5 minute horse race), I bet your next order will be even faster. ;-)

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    Yep ordered a bag of each of the Panamas and they were delivered with the usual amazing speed. Got some more cocoa too.
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    Looking forward to getting my Hartmann black honey

    Have not tried this style of process in coffee ex Panama, but have tried it in a few Costas, eg Perla Negra, La Lia El Dragon

    I find them a bit more challenging to roast well, needing a gentle touch due - I think - to the high sugar content

    Flavours I've found in the past are strong notes of peach (gamma lactone) and some lovely sugar browning characters. Pretty dreamy in a filter roast unless you're looking for an acid kick. Great if you like sweet, complex stone fruit salad flavours with fleshy body and lots of length

    Sometimes the Costa Rica black honeys can get a bit ferment-y... Like OJ that's started to turn fizzy and sometimes even a hint of vinegar. I guess that's a function of the cooler wetter conditions at origin compared to the usual origins of natural process coffees

    When it's good it can be stunningly good

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    I've just roasted 2 x 200g batches of the Black Honey (as per apicus above) 1 light and 1 dark. The lighter roast (end of first crack, after dropping Behmor power to 25% at FC) looks a little mottled (which I guess is to be expected). The darker roast (only just second crack) looks very even.

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    Yay! Black Honey ordered Saturday. Shipped Monday and, schwing...! Arrived today )

    Nice work

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    Hi Andy,
    should we still be receiving a "Beanbay" email that says you have new stuff ? Pretty sure I didn't see one - which is fine, I just wont wait in anticipation for it in future !
    Thanks,
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    Yes you should still be receiving the BeanBay email. If you're not verify that the email address we have for you is correct/current and if it is look in your spam folder in case your provider/email software has placed it there.


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    * We sent 46,000 emails around the time this first post was put up.

    * We sent to the FORUM email address, not the BeanBay one
    (I can see yours is the same for both, not everyone is)

    * Some ISP's get "clever" and junk our email on the way in as they see it arriving for many different customers at once.

    * Some ISP's have junk filter you can manage, others just dump junk.

    * Some ISP's make their customer manage their junk from a webpage, so have a look for one.

    * Setting a "whitelist" and allowing email from @coffeesnobs.com.au is a good setting. (we only send 1 email a month)

    * Some known "clever" ISP's are Telstra bigpuddle, Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo. Most of the others send the mail through okay, most of the time.


    No guarantee. Email is not an exact science, nor is it as "instant" as most people think. Mail servers are designed to buffer and relay mail over a long period of time based on machine loads and all sorts of things. Sometimes it feel instant and that leads into a false sense of the actual service.

    Email really is like physical mail, you post a letter in a box, it gets passed between a lot of people who have different priorities on keeping it moving and most of the time it will get to it's destination but if it doesn't, then you might get a "sorry 'bout that" at best.

    We do post up details about the new beans here every month so even if you do all the above and don't receive the email then by coming here you won't miss out.
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    (I need to type faster Javaphile, I'm on the roaster and multi-tasking like a bloke)
    ;-)

    The other thing you could try.

    Go to:
    BeanBay Banter

    select [forum tools] / [Subscribe to this Forum]

    and on the option, select email.

    That way any new post in the BeanBay banter section will give you a notification that you can act on or ignore.
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    I see there is no roasting until the 27th, are there samplers available that can be posted out this week? (I might just scrape in with my final bag for next week, but just in case... :-)

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    For the quickest response your best bet is to use the Contact Us link found at the top and bottom of every page rather than hoping Andy will see a question posted in a thread. With the Golden Bean rapidly approaching he is no doubt running around like a chicken with its' head cut off getting all the usual things done that keeps him going at at the speed of sound while also finalizing his prep for a week of Golden Bean judging.


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    Chicken with his head cut off indeed I certainly resemble that remark.


    All the roasted coffee has been shipped. The dates in BeanBay are correct and have been there for months, the next 5 roast dates are on the left of every BeanBay page too.

    For even longer range, you can see the roast dates till the end of Jan next year in the calendar:
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Roast Dates


    I'll be roasting and shipping when I return on Monday

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    That's what I'm having trouble finding. Which supplier/roaster is good out of these? Are there all good?
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    I just tried the Brazilian Santos from Coffee Bean Estate Cairns today and the taste was too bitter and acidic for me. It didn't have the sweet after taste that I was looking for.


    The bean itself was full flavoured and alright though. Unlike the crappy beans from The Coffee Works. But this origin just wasn't my kind.

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    Hi Gina...

    As per the Site Posting Rules, you're not allowed to post links to NON Site Sponsors...
    Site sales and posting policy (the rules)
    You'll need to pull them before they get deleted...

    Mal.

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