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    Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Hi all, I want some advice on a stovetop machine known as a BNIB BELLMAM. Has anybody had anything to do with one of these? Are they good? Can you get a good shot from it? I want something to travel with that is light, compact, and makes great shots. They look the goods.Can anybody offer some advice please?

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Are you sure that BNIB is part of its name?
    Usually BNIB refers to Brand New In Box on certain auction sites etc.

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Hi dennisl,

    Ive got one of these that was given to me a while ago. Admittedly, I havent even used it. It just sits on top of my kitchen cupboards looking shiny. Ive been told theyre a good thing though.... Ive been meaning to give it a go as soon as I get over the whole "putting a sealed metal container on a heat source - seems to me like a bomb" feeling. I know they have OPVs but still... :-[

    Ive heard that you can get good results with them.. obviously youll need a sufficient grinder to match. Maybe a manual hand grinder for travelling?

    In fact... youve inspired me to try it out tonight. Ill post my results if I get around to doing it.... and if I still have my eyebrows.

    YeeZa

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Thanks YeeZa Ill look foward to hearing how it goes. I wouldnt worry about a sealed container on the stovetop as there are still a few people alive who use pressure cookers ! Oh and FATBOY good call,it is "brand new in box".

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Heres a review + manual that may be of help:

    http://www.coffeecrew.com/content/view/392/27/
    http://www.fantes.com/bellman-parts.html

    Based on previous articles here about stovetop machines, you may be able to get a better espresso out of this than the review suggests:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1175047754

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Thanks Phillip, the review reads well. I guess now I will have to be patient and wait for good old Australia post to deliver the thing so I can have a play.

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Hi,

    Ask "team-CTA", hes got the same thing but with a heating element: http://chainringtransitauthority.com/cta_blog/cta_blog_images/2007_07_21_004_800.shtml
    and has used it previously for coffee brewing.

    I have one too (with element) but only use it for steaming.

    -paul

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Thanks for that, If those were made from from the Bellman they look ok.
    Have you tried yours for espresso, and if so what were the results like?


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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Well for all interested I received it today and have given it a thorough work out. Yes it does make creama, just enough to cover the surface, but loads more than any other stovetop ive seen. The steam is amazing, loads more than my old sunbeam, (not quite up to the promac though). I have found that a finer grind is better as it slows down the pour and produces a sweeter shot. Thanks to Jack from Sorrentina Coffee for his advice and prompt service. The perfect traveling machine!

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Hello all,
    thanks Dennis- I am glad you liked the results. These machines can produce a very fine coffee (caveat: for a stove-top machine). This is no La Pavoni Lever machine: but it doesnt need electricity either.

    The manufacturer made me a tiny macchiato with the CX25P- he roasted, ground, weighed- and carefully tamped.... Used a low heat- and used boiling water (this stops the entire machine overheating and speeds things up). He let the pressure build up just so... and then let it flow out. Truly a great coffee. Very strong- espresso flavour- but not burnt- and a surprising amount of Crema...


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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    The slow extraction seems to be the trick, I now have crema completely covering the pour. An amazing result for a "stove top".

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Hi, I need help with my Bellman CX25P, I dont seem to get much steam with it. Is there visible steam throughout the time the steam valve is open? I can only see puffs of steam and I can even put my hand in front of it feeling just hot air.

    Ive tried working within the 1-2 bar region and even 2-3. I can still froth milk but there isnt much steam coming out at all. When I open the coffee valve theres a lot of steam coming out along with the coffee.

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    Re: Help Wanted BNIB BELLMAN Machine

    Maybe there is some blockage happening in your steam wand. Mine works great with 2 bar pressure. Still takes long time to heat the milk up to ideal temperature, about 3 to 3 and half minutes.

    Are you able to get crema from your coffee? Have been using Bellman CX25P for some times, never have any crema. Coffee is really muddy and weak, more like french press. Open the valve while pressure reach 2 bars, using espresso fine grind and fresh roasted coffee, but still no luck. Any helps?

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