Post By sageybadegey
Post By level3ninja
Post By dbun
Post By pcrussell50
Breville Barista Touch (BES880), the good & bad
Have any of you bought the Breville Barista Touch? Any feedback on it?
I've been struggling which one to get recently, whether to go all-out crazy with the Breville Oracle Touch or just the single boiler Breville Barista Touch.
I like the touch variants because it sort-of help my wife in making her favourite drinks without the much hassle having no experience in using an espresso machine before.
Personally, I would like to buy the Breville Dual Boiler without the grinder (not sure if that's available in The Good Guys eBay store) + Baratza Sette 270W as I think that's the best bang for my buck. But I would like to hear your thoughts on this and hear your experience.
The barista isn't a single boiler, it's a thermoblock, also the dual boiler is no longer available separately from the grinder, you can only buy them as a package.
Disclaimer: I haven't used anything other than the dual boiler.
The barista will make noticably worse coffee. I used to have a BES800 and now have a BES920. The 800 would be very difficult for me to get something I'd be happy to drink as straight espresso even after the learning I've done since owning it. The barista is similar to the BES870, which is a slight upgrade from the 800, but I believe it's coffee would be below the "good enough" threshold for me. Also you have to manually tamp with the barista.
The oracle is pretty much the dual boiler underneath, plus the grinder and automation, so I'm told it can produce coffee as good as the dual boiler if you knew what you're doing.
That being said, if your wife is willing to learn I would advise against buying a Breville (I won't be buying another one), unless your desire for functionality at a certain price point outweighs concern for having to replace it every 3-6 years. Depending on your budget something like the Lelit PL60T V2 or the Profitec Pro 300 would last significantly longer.
Last edited by level3ninja; 4th November 2017 at 04:46 PM.
If your budget stretches to a Breville Oracle Touch then there are so many better options around in terms of getting a nice dual boiler (or even HX) + grinder setup.
Just wondering if you went ahead and purchased the Barista Touch? Any feedback good or bad?
Another vote for this. Any time you replace manual action with "touch", you are adding complexity and cost, and decreasing reliability or increasing maintenance requirements. It is worthy of note that the really expensive dream machines, the $7000USD and up, saturated brew group machines are full manual. No touch anywhere in sight at the top of the industry. As for HX and E61 versus Breville, there are no other dual boilers that can match the Breville Dual Boiler in terms of raw temperature stability, as the BDB is up there with the saturated brew group dream machines in that area. So for the cost of an Oracle touch, I'd get a regular Breville Dual Boiler, currently the -920(XL if in North America), and then pair it with the best grinder your budget can afford, which will be something way above the Smart Grinder. On the flipside, a good E61DB while not as temp stable as the BDB, you will probably not be able to tell the difference in the cup, so if you like the romantic Italian look of the E61 machines, you probably will not be sorry... But they do cost more, so that will eat into your grinder budget... something I would not be willing to do myself, since we have fairly well figured out the maintenance requirements to keep the BDB going long term.
Originally Posted by dbun