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    Another tamper that looks interesting or is it?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnVs_eJuerY The great leveller!

    I know what your saying. "Not another gimmicky tamper" or "another tamper for people still on training wheels". These ad nauseum comments often appeared after posts on the pressure click tampers (espro or eazytamp) but I actually use one of these and like it.

    Anyway I came across one of these levelling tampers on the web and they seem like a good idea for people struggling with a doing a level tamp. Has any one used one and what do they think? They maybe a training device but I still like the concept.

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    G'day Barri...

    There have been a couple of attempts at making Tampers with this sort of design over the years. Can't remember what they were called but as with everything, pros and cons were discussed ad nauseam...

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    How much do you think it would cost to get one delivered to the States?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    How much do you think it would cost to get one delivered to the States?
    RRP is $99AUD + cost of postage. We can get them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    RRP is $99AUD + cost of postage. We can get them.
    Now you tell me Chris!

    I just ordered one on an impulse buy. I just can't help myself. I'll report back when I've had a play.

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    I am very interested in one, could you put it on eBay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    I am very interested in one, could you put it on eBay?
    Sorry- we don't eBay. You are welcome to make contact if you wish to purchase.

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    I am interested, how do we buy. I live in Florida USA my zip code is 33063, how much would it cost to ship to me in US$ ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    I am very interested in one, could you put it on eBay?
    I thought that was a joke as in "hurry up and buy it, try it, decide it's a gimmick and makes no difference, and then put it on eBay ."

    Cheers Dean.

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    Ok- we have added it to range on backorder. I'll make a first order on Saturday 16/8 for anyone who wants one and thereafter keep a few in stock. We'll receive and then ship them in about a week.

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    How do I dial your telephone number from the USA???

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    011+61+4+Talk Coffee mobile phone number available from the Talk Coffee website.

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    It arrived this morning and I've had a good chance to play with it. The packaging was pretty poor. A small white box with no instructions. Admittedly it doesn't need instructions and I guess that would put the price up. Anyway the concept is that the wide part sits on the rim of your basket and pushing down gives a perfectly level tamp. It does this well. Setting it up was a bit fiddly. You have to adjust it so that the final tamped puck gives the same headroom from your basket as your old tamp did. I found that I couldn't control my tamp pressure as well as my "normal" tamper. So I ended up adjusting it to give a longer stroke. That way the handle didn't go all the way down (like the video) but I was able control things better. Does it give a level tamp? Absolutely. Is it the next best thing to sliced bread? No. Would I buy it again? Maybe. Has it helped? Yes. Would I recommend it? Yes to those struggling to get an even level tamp but no to others. Will I use it all the time now? Maybe, but I reckon I'll eventually go back to my old click tamper which has lines on it to help with levelling.

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    I was worried that you might say it was junk, especially since I ordered one last week. As soon its delivered Ill let you fellas.
    Thanks Again

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    Its not junk NuBEnFL. In fact I'm actually getting used to it. Its growing on me. I was a little sloppy in getting level tamps before but with this thing you can't help but to get a level tamp. It removes another variable.
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    I got it in record time from Australia, and its the best tamper I've ever used.......
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    Hey NuBEnFL ...... how has the Great Leveller been? Are you still using it or have you gone back to regular tamping??

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    I'll answer that. I used it for a few months but didn't like the fact that you can't see how far the tamper had gone into the basket. I have gone back to a normal tamper. One which has a thin base. This allows me to have better control including having a level tamp. This doesn't mean its not suitable for someone else its just that I've outgrown it!

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    Thanks barri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barri View Post
    I'll answer that. I used it for a few months but didn't like the fact that you can't see how far the tamper had gone into the basket. I have gone back to a normal tamper. One which has a thin base. This allows me to have better control including having a level tamp. This doesn't mean its not suitable for someone else its just that I've outgrown it!
    I'm looking for one, do you want to sell it? In anycase I need to know the exsact measurement as many tampers are being sold with inaccurate measurements eg what is said to be 58mm is actually 57.3mm.
    I was wondering if they do that to say it'll fit a 58mm basket, this makes sence.

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    What ever happened to the great leveler, emailed him a bunch of times without any answer???

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    I have one of these. It works really well! I use it for training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    What ever happened to the great leveler, emailed him a bunch of times without any answer???
    Yes- it's available...

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    I have a Olympia Maximatic that comes with a 54mm tamper that's to small, tried a 55mm an its a little tight was thinking of 54.5mm or 54.8 what do you think???

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    Still waiting for an answer????

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    I need one 54.4mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    I need one 54.4mm
    You'd have to have it disassembled and machined. Stock we can get is "58mm".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuBEnFL View Post
    Still waiting for an answer????
    From who??
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    Hello,
    This discussion is interesting,I've recently received one of these tampers and I reckon their great,mind you the unit I received was from a CS member who had the misfortune to drop it onto a hard surface,damaging one area of the rim.
    Sold as damaged,I offered a suitable price which pleased it's owner,now I have it and using as much as I can,considering some group handles I use won't fit! The majority do fit well though and makes a professional job of correctly tampering.
    I had to disassemble competely and machine ( reface) the surface to the flat again,removing the gouge/ chip.
    Works like a new one again,for half the price.
    I would imagine the damage to these heavy tampers wouldn't be uncommon,so easy to drop them.
    However,they can be repaired easily.
    cheers,
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    I am glad u fixed it and been useful at ur end

    Quote Originally Posted by mulquemi View Post
    Hello,
    This discussion is interesting,I've recently received one of these tampers and I reckon their great,mind you the unit I received was from a CS member who had the misfortune to drop it onto a hard surface,damaging one area of the rim.
    Sold as damaged,I offered a suitable price which pleased it's owner,now I have it and using as much as I can,considering some group handles I use won't fit! The majority do fit well though and makes a professional job of correctly tampering.
    I had to disassemble competely and machine ( reface) the surface to the flat again,removing the gouge/ chip.
    Works like a new one again,for half the price.
    I would imagine the damage to these heavy tampers wouldn't be uncommon,so easy to drop them.
    However,they can be repaired easily.
    cheers,
    Mick.

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    Anyone who's used both EazyTamp and The Great Leveller care to comment further on this topic?

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    I realise I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but how hard is it to produce a level tamp?

    Don't you just spread your fingers around the edge of the basket/tamper while pressing down to gauge it's level? That's all I do. Seems to work fine.
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    I've been playing with one of these over the last few days and given a choice, I'd have it over the Leveller...

    Works well and it's infinitely adjustable for height. They are 58.5mm
    flat-tamp_rw.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
    I realise I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but how hard is it to produce a level tamp?

    Don't you just spread your fingers around the edge of the basket/tamper while pressing down to gauge it's level? That's all I do. Seems to work fine.
    In complete agreement with you on this MrFF, simple and very effective.

    However I can certainly see a use for these devices if dexterity is a problem.
    Last edited by Yelta; 10th January 2017 at 08:41 AM.
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    It's a good idea, but it doesn't address the cause (IMO) of most non-level tamps, which is uneven distribution.
    I've been using an OCD for the last few weeks (definitely made my workflow easier - and more consistent) and you almost have to try to tamp crooked.

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    If love to see a 55mm OCD, just to try....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortblackman View Post
    If love to see a 55mm OCD, just to try....
    I'd think someone like Rick (aka site sponsor The Coffee Machinist) could turn one down for you. You'd just need to verify sufficient edge so as to be certain it would still function as designed.

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    Great! Simple idea to adjust the height! Like it.

    https://youtu.be/Boi_ELM2OkI
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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Great simply idea to adjust the height! Like it.

    https://youtu.be/Boi_ELM2OkI
    Interesting, the assumption seems to be that you will use precisely the same dose and grind setting every shot.

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    Or you could use this one, it doesn't matter how much coffee is in the basket. https://www.kafatek.com/index.php/le...presso-tamper/

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    Im trying to edit post 41, and ended up with post 42, can some one please delete 42 and I was trying to edit 41 due to a pricing and name. Thanks

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    It wont let me edit the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logga View Post
    It wont let me edit the post.

    It's a conspiracy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logga View Post
    LevTamp – Auto leveling espresso tamper

    As everyone experiences from time to time leveling the coffee bed in the basket can be a challenge.
    Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.

    Just trying an edit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logga View Post
    It wont let me edit the post.
    Just went into post 46 and edited it without problem Logga, are you seeing the edit post button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.

    Just trying an edit!
    Agreed. Very occasionally it isn't level but to call it challenging and to say it effects everyone is an exaggeration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Just went into post 46 and edited it without problem Logga, are you seeing the edit post button?
    Yes the edit button is there, when I click on it nothing happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
    Agreed. Very occasionally it isn't level but to call it challenging and to say it effects everyone is an exaggeration.
    Not my words, but I suppose every one is entitled to there own opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Pretty broad statement Logga, I don't find leveling the dose challenging in the least, it's a skill most people acquire very quickly.
    True, although like everything in the coffee industry that's being micromanaged, controlled, fretted over, measured, and autopsied to death, I can understand why some folk would feel "unqualified" without being strapped in to some sort of sphygmo-tamp-ometer first...

    ...which, mind you, doesn't exist.

    http://www.pmsinstruments.co.uk/blog.../12/UM-102.jpg

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    I've had tamper and filter basket combinations that made it very difficult to achieve a level tamp any time let alone consistently. I've also had the opposite where the tamper is such a great fit for the basket that it's obvious that the coffee bed is quite level.
    Also I'd argue that there's plenty of people who think that they're tamping level and actually aren't, although they won't be off by much (I've seen it plenty). There's definitely a place for levelers and leveling type tampers, especially in a commercial environment if it can be successful worked into the workflow.
    If you tamp freehand and want to know how level your bed is, run some sort of depth gauge around the edge of the filter basket after tamping. This is a quick and easy way to check your results and will give you a truer indication than just eyeing your tamper post tamp. This can be quite deceptive I've found.
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