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Thread: Unplugged Coffee - where to now?

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    Unplugged Coffee - where to now?

    Gday guys

    I'm trying to figure out which way to go for a portable coffee solution when we go camping. I wanted to go Espresso and we spent a small fortune on a Rok, the tamp, a Lido3 ET, a Belman frother, etc, but man, it was such a PITA and we're not keen for it anymore. Going to sell the Rok, the tamp and the Belman soon (if you want a great deal on a couple single use items let me know I had a laugh).

    Im going to keep the Lido ET grinder because it's awesome.

    So where to from here? Aeropress? Pourover? We enjoy a rich coffee (with milk). Would appreciate any advice in this regard

    Sincere thanks
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    What was the PITA re: the Rok that you are trying to get away from?

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    Bacchi would be the way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melbroaster View Post
    What was the PITA re: the Rok that you are trying to get away from?
    Dude, it probably took me 10 mins to make a single cup of coffee and that was using gas. Belman takes a long time to get to the boil for the lattes and I was doing all the work alone (Mrs still asleep as per usual I had a laugh). So the timing was all wrong. Id pour the shot, get onto the milk, by the time the milk was done, the shot was cold etc. It was still ok... but not the kind of effort I want to put in at a camp site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
    Bacchi would be the way to go
    Never seen this before - thanks for the suggestion. She looks like a beaut stove top unit (albeit expensive). But I think we're kinda moving away from espresso for camping. Whilst I dont mind a straight double shot, the wife likes milk in her coffee, and I dont want to have to heat/froth it anymore.

    Appreciate the input gents - thank you very much.

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    Aeropress, flair, espro plunger. All are good. All require just hot water and ground coffee. I own all 3. Look on youtube and see if any of the workflows suit you?
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    Aeropress ftw 👍
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    Unplugged Coffee - where to now?

    Melbroaster I like the look of flair. How have you found it at home? Basket/dose size?

    For camping I like the simplicity of aeropress or pour over device. For those needing milk heat it in a pot.

    Sure it's not cafe foam but then you are camping ⛺️
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    Its wonderful. You get approximately a double shot into the basket depending on bean density. Dont think of it as a portable pro800 think of it as a la pavoni without a boiler. I prefer the shots i get off it to the la pavoni because of the more straightforward temp management
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    All this talk of pour overs made me thirsty.

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    Looks great - cheers guys. I'll try a pour-over.

    Lazy question here: will my espresso roast beans work just as well in the pour-over? And what grind size should I be aiming at?

    matth3wh - Those tasting notes look fantastic! Who's your roaster?

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    Pourover is great - but if you like rich coffee with good body and flavours from the caramel/chocolate side of the spectrum, you mightn't be satisfied. Especially using espresso roast beans. The aeropress will give better results, with the right recipe.

    Otoh if you're interested in expanding your coffee horizons, a pourover is inexpensive and indispensable - but you'll need lighter roast beans and an open mind, for best results 😉

    Terrific for a lightweight setup, but I'm assuming since you're using the Lido you're talking car camping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    All this talk of pour overs made me thirsty.

    Cupped several of those Geisha village beans last weekend, the washed process was incredible! Hoping my local roaster was successful at the auction...
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    Unplugged Coffee - where to now?

    Invest in an aeropress and pour over device and Mokka pot. Collect them all.

    Priced from about $15-$45 you can't go too far wrong. We used Mokka pots daily for at least about 10 years before trying some espresso / aeropress / other fun.

    Aeropress delivers a great flavoursome brew similar to Mokka pots but with less chance of the bitter and burn drawbacks if you get things wrong.

    Whatever the brew method good coffee in gives you the best chance of good coffee out. (grind size/know your equipment/yadda yadda)
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiman View Post
    Gday guys

    I'm trying to figure out which way to go for a portable coffee solution when we go camping. I wanted to go Espresso and we spent a small fortune on a Rok, the tamp, a Lido3 ET, a Belman frother, etc, but man, it was such a PITA and we're not keen for it anymore. Going to sell the Rok, the tamp and the Belman soon (if you want a great deal on a couple single use items let me know I had a laugh).

    Im going to keep the Lido ET grinder because it's awesome.

    So where to from here? Aeropress? Pourover? We enjoy a rich coffee (with milk). Would appreciate any advice in this regard

    Sincere thanks
    I used my Lido 3 ET with an Aeropress for about 6 months of the last year (while in NZ / UK). Worked beautifully. As well as the taste thing, the Aeropress is very easy to keep clean.

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    I bought an Aeropress recently but haven't managed to nail a good coffee recipe with it yet. More experimentation needed. The process of using it though is awesome, so simple, easy and reliable. And fun.

    Regards,

    Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyRay View Post
    I bought an Aeropress recently but haven't managed to nail a good coffee recipe with it yet. More experimentation needed. The process of using it though is awesome, so simple, easy and reliable. And fun.

    Regards,

    Matt.
    What grinder are you using? If it's one that is more of an espresso specialist, avoid really long brew times on the Aeropress (any fines in the ground coffee will tend to cause bitterness). I tend to go for about an 70-80 second brew time with a grind b/w espresso and filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    What grinder are you using? If it's one that is more of an espresso specialist, avoid really long brew times on the Aeropress (any fines in the ground coffee will tend to cause bitterness). I tend to go for about an 70-80 second brew time with a grind b/w espresso and filter.
    While travelling, it was a Porlex mini. Beans were Peru Ceja de Selva Estate, around CS10, less than 2 weeks old. At home I also have a Lido 2 and Compak K3, but so far the Porlex has been mostly used with it. It was definitely a clean smooth taste, but when milk was added, it tasted like International Roast.

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    Matt

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    Fines will do that, and as they wear, Porlex grinders develop a bit of slop and generate fines... not really suitable as a daily grinder imo.

    Since you have a Lido, I'd say the solution is staring you in the face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Matt View Post
    Fines will do that, and as they wear, Porlex grinders develop a bit of slop and generate fines... not really suitable as a daily grinder imo.

    Since you have a Lido, I'd say the solution is staring you in the face!
    Guess I asked for that one :-)

    The real intent behind the Aeropress was flying overseas and since I usually carry around 8kg of tools, and the limit on some flights is 20 odd kg, I'm trying to save weight, hence the Porlex. Otherwise it would be the Lido 2 alllll the way!

    I'll have to test the Lido/Aeropress at home and see how much of it is the grinder. Still early days with the Aeropress.

    Cheers,

    Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    .... and legend has it that a person was once seen using an aeropress on a flight.... !!!
    Would that make it a low pressure extraction? :-)
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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    One way to join the mile-high club, I guess... 🤔

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