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Thread: Lubricant for a lever machine?

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    Lubricant for a lever machine?

    Hey guys. I have an Elektra Microcasa Leva machine and it's time for some maintenance on the machines lever as it feels quite dry.

    I have some Waterproof silicon lubricant that is "non toxic". It's not a grease, so i don't think its going to be overly suitable.

    What do you guys recommend?

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    jaycar sell edible grease i use on my screen screws also on the planetary gears on my kenwood mixer
    Inox Premium Food Grade Machinery Grease 30gm - Jaycar Electronics

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    Quote Originally Posted by fman1972 View Post
    jaycar sell edible grease
    Not recommended on toast. ;-)
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    G'day Juvv...

    If you contact one or more of our Site Sponsors closest to you, they will most likely sell the right stuff for you to use, e.g.
    Food grade silicon grease | Talk Coffee

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    Quote Originally Posted by chokkidog View Post
    Not recommended on toast. ;-)
    yeah its a bit exy illld stay with butter :P

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    Molykote 111 is what I use when rebuilding lever machines.
    It's a well proven product used by many technicians.

    It's fairly cheap and easy to obtain, Blackwoods has it on their online store in 100gm tubes.

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    If you have a Home Brew shop near by you could use Keg lube.
    KEG AND Gasket Lube Disconnect Cornelius KEG Food Grade Home Brew | eBay

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    With respect, there is no indication as to the temperature range across which each of the alternate suggested products are recommended for use. If the Molykote product is rated food safe, then it's possibly ok. I'd think that beer keg lube is suitable for- beer keg temperatures.

    We tried a cheaper food, lower grade grade lube and rejected it. The higher temp food grade grease far outperformed it and outlasted it- especially on e-61 lever cams. You gets what you pays for.
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    Molykote 111 is definitely food safe (H1) according to manufacturer supplied test data but not rated as high a service temperature as the Haynes product. Haynes is good for up to 260C or so, Molykote 111 to just over 200C. As far as price goes though, much of a muchness really as both products are high quality and you pay accordingly but I wouldn't call either of them expensive, given how little of the product you're meant to use with each application and how long each application lasts in service.

    These would be the only two products I would consider using though, given the the amount of testing and certification that stands behind each of them...

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    good 'ol Dow Corning, it finds its way everywhere from aeroplane parts to chem labs to... your espresso machine!

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    Hi all

    I have "mx6 Inox with PTFE" which is "High temperature, Extreme pressure" and "premium machinery grease Food Grade". Comes in a 30 gram squeeze tube. Got it from site sponsor Di Bartoli .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    I wouldn't call either of them expensive, given how little of the product you're meant to use with each application and how long each application lasts in service.

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    Good job there is no expiry date on this stuff....
    I have had a 150gm tube of Dow Cornings 111 (Molykote 111) for over 30years and its still more than half full despite being used frequently !

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    Quote Originally Posted by fman1972 View Post
    jaycar sell edible grease i use on my screen screws also on the planetary gears on my kenwood mixer
    Inox Premium Food Grade Machinery Grease 30gm - Jaycar Electronics
    I use this but find it tastes a bit rank. So it needs to be used sparingly and run some shots through it first before drinking.

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    Gonna go with the M111 after doing a lot of research.

    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukevl View Post
    I use this but find it tastes a bit rank. So it needs to be used sparingly and run some shots through it first before drinking.
    You might be using it a bit too generously Luke...

    Only need the barest smear of the stuff on the wearing surfaces, and this will last for quite a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fman1972 View Post
    jaycar sell edible grease i use on my screen screws also on the planetary gears on my kenwood mixer
    Inox Premium Food Grade Machinery Grease 30gm - Jaycar Electronics
    Inox MX6 is what we use, although we buy it in 2.5kg tubs due to the amount we go through!

    It's rated for use from -30 degrees C to over 250 degrees C. And beer keg lubrication is also one of the uses it is designed for.

    I wouldn't eat it, although it does taste nicer than the Wurth Pipe Seal and copper antiseize that I am also always getting on my hands while working!
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    Yes, excellent product M'GT...

    Have used a few of their products over the years and the performance has always been brilliant...

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    There was no response from this suggestion... Is it good to use?
    The product description says it's for taps. It's cheaper and easier to get (for me at least), so I'd like to know. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsayward View Post
    There was no response from this suggestion... Is it good to use?
    The product description says it's for taps. It's cheaper and easier to get (for me at least), so I'd like to know. Thanks.
    The lack of response might tell you something. The Bunnings one won't do any harm, but for the sake of $5 I'd be looking for a food grade lubricant.

    I use the Inox on my lever machine and on my Bacchi, and it works well in both....and you don't need to use much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsayward View Post
    .... easier to get (for me at least), so I'd like to know. Thanks.
    Try BSC in Townsville they should stock Dow Corning Molykote 111

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsayward View Post
    There was no response from this suggestion... Is it good to use?
    The product description says it's for taps. It's cheaper and easier to get (for me at least), so I'd like to know. Thanks.
    Pretty sure this item is close to identical with the Inox product and is also Food Safe.
    I'd use it without concern...

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