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Thread: Espresso machine for office

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    Espresso machine for office

    Hi Guys we have around 4 coffee drinkers:

    Had a Grimac Mia until it broke and looking for something new this financial year.

    Features required:
    Volumetric and plumbed in.

    Currently looking for something sub 2k.

    Expobar office control is currently on the list but isnt plumbed.

    Any recommendations would be great.
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    Thanks but its not volumetric or plumbed in.

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    I wouldn't really call 4 coffee drinkers "heavy office use"

    Is the Mia that catastrophically damaged that it can't be repaired? By most accounts they're pretty bulletproof?
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    4 coffee drinkers is an average Australian household with adult children at home. You could get away with a breville dual boiler if you ignore plumbed in, or virtually any rotary pump based hx if you stretch the budget a bit and ignore volumetrics

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatcat View Post
    Hi Guys we have around 4 coffee drinkers:

    Had a Grimac Mia until it broke and looking for something new this financial year.

    Features required:
    Volumetric and plumbed in.

    Currently looking for something sub 2k.

    Expobar office control is currently on the list but isnt plumbed.

    Any recommendations would be great.
    We had a customer with exactly the same requirements a couple of months ago.

    Volumetric and plumed in at 2K was an almost impossible ask.

    We ended up suppling the customer the Expobar office control, sacrificing the direct water requirement.

    Four coffee drinkers is not really heavy use for this machine, it would certainly handle the work load.

    Its just the issue of the direct water connection

    Feel free to call if you would like to discuss

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    I don't even list volumetric machines as it's simple (and better) to extract manually by colour.
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    Jeepers Paul! I thought you going to try to avoid these broad sweeping statements that actually aren't always accurate.

    In reality, this is probably true for home users. However as soon as you enter even a semi-commercial environment like an office the benefits of volumetric dosing often outweighs anything else. Many of the worlds current leading voices in coffee have done at least some basic experiments in this area and have almost unanimously found that volumetrics are second only to weight based extraction in a cafe or commercial set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatcat View Post
    Hi Guys we have around 4 coffee drinkers:

    Had a Grimac Mia until it broke and looking for something new this financial year.

    Features required:
    Volumetric and plumbed in.

    Currently looking for something sub 2k.

    Expobar office control is currently on the list but isnt plumbed.

    Any recommendations would be great.
    See if you can find a pre owned machine that has the option for both tank and plumbed water supply. Retailers like Jet Black often have a range of pre owned machines including something that might suit your requirements.
    The models that have this option are those in the Faema/La Cimbali stable such as the Faema E98 Compact or La Cimbali Junior. Also CMA machines like Astoria/Wega CKXE Compact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    See if you can find a pre owned machine that has the option for both tank and plumbed water supply. Retailers like Jet Black often have a range of pre owned machines including something that might suit your requirements.
    The models that have this option are those in the Faema/La Cimbali stable such as the Faema E98 Compact or La Cimbali Junior. Also CMA machines like Astoria/Wega CKXE Compact.
    There is also the Bezzera BZ99s, which is currently $1.6k from Jetblack and can be plumbed in...

    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/p/bezzera-bz99/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJack View Post
    There is also the Bezzera BZ99s, which is currently $1.6k from Jetblack and can be plumbed in...

    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/p/bezzera-bz99/
    Oh yeah, forgot about them. You can get a volumetric version too I think. Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Oh yeah, forgot about them. You can get a volumetric version too I think. Is that right?
    Think that is the BZ35, which is larger and more expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnafunk View Post
    I wouldn't really call 4 coffee drinkers "heavy office use"

    Is the Mia that catastrophically damaged that it can't be repaired? By most accounts they're pretty bulletproof?
    The electronics have died and noone seems to have spare parts. Plus I've just had a bad run with second hand gear.

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    This is currently an option on the table it's the always on factor that might stretch the friendship. That said I could always just ride the warranty periods each year.

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    We do have a second hand Appia 2 group Volumetric compact for sale.

    Under 2K, but is direct plump only as a commercial, no tank at all.

    Feel free to call if you think it could be of interest

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnafunk View Post
    I wouldn't really call 4 coffee drinkers "heavy office use"

    Is the Mia that catastrophically damaged that it can't be repaired? By most accounts they're pretty bulletproof?
    I agree...

    The Grimac Mia is a highly regarded machine and capable of being worked very, very hard.
    I'd get a quote for service and repair from a reputable Espresso Tech. Service before committing to a new machine...

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    I agree...

    The Grimac Mia is a highly regarded machine and capable of being worked very, very hard.
    I'd get a quote for service and repair from a reputable Espresso Tech. Service before committing to a new machine...

    Mal.
    Ok I will start with this, who would be the best person to talk to? I remember doing a ring around initially with little luck.

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    First up fatcat, where are you located?

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    First up fatcat, where are you located?

    Mal.
    Melbourne.
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    Loads of options around Melbourne...

    Use the "Quote Form" at the bottom of the page describing your requirements, location etc and the Site Sponsors who can help you out will reply...

    Mal.
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    So a couple months on and no-one replied to the quote.

    Anyone have an idea who works on the grimacs

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatcat View Post
    Anyone have an idea who works on the grimacs
    Grinders Coffee in Fairfield used to distribute Grimacs and did have a lot of spares in stock, but they switched to distributing Rancilio machines when Mocopan switched from Rancilio to Nuova Simonelli. I don't think anyone else picked up the Grimac distributorship, and Grinders had run out of stock of some of the bits we needed for a machine repair last time we went searching a few years ago, so I suspect a lot of people don't want the headache of trying to fix something for which they can't guarantee getting parts.
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    Try coffeegroupmildura , they are the Aussie distributors for Grimac and spares .
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    Open the Pod bay doors Hal...

    I have seen the mess and expense of office machines. They get hammered and abused.

    Nespresso machines can work well and the extra cost of pods is offset by cheaper machines and no need for a grinder.

    I would taste and see.

    If you want real espresso properly ground and extracted...maybe get good equipment and hire a barista.

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