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Thread: Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey

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    Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey

    Bought hours after the release, delivered a day later, roasted immediately to about 1 min post end of FC in the popper on an 18 degrees day, stored in plastic sandwich bag after 30 minutes of aeration, cupped as a filter. Tons of chaff during roasting.

    Day 1: quite a herbal nose, without the tobacco notes of the Turquino but same idea, perhaps more like the Costa Rica Geisha. Relatively little fruit. Dry mouthfeel with an average finish. Balanced mouthfeel similar to Colombian.

    Day 2: flash of honey on opening the bag. Could be auto-suggested since the thing called "black honey" has nothing to do with actual honey. I got it on day 1 as well to a lesser extent. More fruit this time around, still a very different fruit to the Sidamo.

    How has it been for you? What roast profiles have you tried?

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    Ordered yesterday too. Looking forward to trying out. Loads of chaff eh, and then Andy mentioned them being a competition bean. I hope I haven’t just ordered another bag of the same as home coffee roasters competition..

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    Thanks Apicus, I also am keen to try this and appreciate your thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    Ordered yesterday too. Looking forward to trying out. Loads of chaff eh, and then Andy mentioned them being a competition bean. I hope I haven’t just ordered another bag of the same as home coffee roasters competition..
    Hehe ah I reckon that wouldn't be such a bad thing Janus ;D.

    Sounds like an incredible coffee!

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    Day 3: the fruit is developing, more ripe pear than Sidamo's blueberries. The mouthfeel is now fully white wine, like a natural process coffee. Still feels dry somehow, despite the wine, maybe that now receding herbal side. Very balanced, great for breakfast. I'd say today is when I can first say I enjoy this. The grounds off the grinder smelt just like Colombia VG with no hints of the pear.

    I gave it another deep sniff whilst it was brewing and then it hit me: amaretti - the brown ones that are a bit caramelised.

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    Day 5, probably my last post for this batch as I'm running out.

    Added milk and sugar to this one so I could drink it faster as it was quite a rushed morning. Surprisingly, this turned it into a caramel bomb. Yes, the herbal side is still there if I smell for it but it is covered by caramel and vanilla notes; perhaps like vanilla rooibos. Very surprising to me as I was expecting something much more opposed to milk, much more acidity and some pungency, instead I got the perfect, smooth match, it is almost as if I picked up the wrong bag off the shelf. Double checked, no, it is the black honey. Will bear that in mind next time I want a "Starbucks" (drown the taste in fat and sugar) instead of the usual black filter.
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    Got some heading over the Nullarbor, can't wait to get them in the roaster!!!!
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    Panama Rati Hartmann Black Honey

    Mine arrived Friday, haven’t roasted yet.

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    You roasted yet Greenman? I did a batch to 202c, they still need a couple of days before they’ll hit their stride.

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    I tried some of my light roasted Hartmann as a pour over today (7 days post roast). Nice, but not outstanding....but I think it needed a slightly finer grind so will try tomorrow. Am heading down the coast on a week's leave on Thursday, so will have plenty of time to experiment (I also have 200g roasted for espresso which I'll use in the Bacchi).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    You roasted yet Greenman? I did a batch to 202c, they still need a couple of days before they’ll hit their stride.
    Ha ha, I live in Perth, still on the truck!!!!!!

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