A good first step would be NOT referring to your new toy as an " Expresso Machine"
I'm a long time lurker here but haven't posted before as I haven't had anything of value to add.
My wife and I are in the process of having plans drawn for our new home and my wife is having 'her' kitchen designed and planned to the finest detail. As a general rule, I tend to stay right out of the kitchen as my chef'ing skill leave a lot to be desired and my wife tends to chase me out if I go anywhere near it.
Now the exception is if I'm making coffee. This got me to thinking, perhaps in our new kitchen I should have a dedicated Coffee Station, which for me would be a section of the kitchen I could come and go from without being chased off. My gear and my mess could remain in the one position, whereas now I often find stuff being shifted and packed away. This will probably be our last home, so I may as well put some thought into the process and in doing so I thought I'd get some advice from the good people of this forum.
Ive decided to get a new Expresso Machine and I have my heart set on the Profitec Pro700 & as my old grinder gave up the ghost recently, I'm presently using a borrowed grinder, so when I get the machine I will update the grinder too and haven't decided on that either.
Ive floated the idea of a coffee station with the wife and she's asked me to decide what I need to make my coffee station.
Initially I thought I would require a small sink, near the machine, however my latest thoughts have simply been to have a point at the wall where I can plumb the machine in, the filtration will be below bench and also have drainage fixture below the bench where I can run/plumb the drip tray to. Obviously I would allow enough bench space beside the machine to place all the tools of the trade, grinder, tamper and so forth.
If you were to set up a similar space what would you include in the area?
I was planning on putting a 15amp power socket at the location to run the machine but I've since read on this forum that folk here think it's not necessary for the Profitec Pro700.
Any input you give will be greatly appreciated as I seem to be drawing a blank in ideas. No doubt after installing a machine and after all the building is finished all these brilliant ideas will come up and by then it will be too late.
Anyway, I look forward to reading your replies, assuming you haven't all gone to sleep by this stage of this thread. Thanks in advance.
A good first step would be NOT referring to your new toy as an " Expresso Machine"
If you're not installing a wash-up sink I'd install a rinser similar to one of these.
Java "Easy clean-up" phile
Toys! I must have new toys!!!
Never seen one like that before, thanks for sharing, it's like a mini dishwasher, in the sink.
I was thinking directly under the machine I could have a drawer where I could keep all my bits and pieces amd maybe another one with my collection of cups and so forth.
It would DEFINATELY be benificial to have a small sink located nearby where I could soak stuff and do my cleaning.
If I take up too much space, I will be relocated out to the rear shed........now there's an idea.
My main recommendation is a non-staining or dark coloured benchtop, and enough clearance to load cups on top of the machine. Sounds simple but lots of people think about gadgets before the basics.
I have mine on the end of a bench near a wall and hang my milk jugs on hooks that are wall mounted to save bench space.
I love rinsers, but unless you're making 10+ coffees a day, I'd save the bench space. Think about how often you're really going to use anything before getting bells and whistles and also the maintenance required. Most coffee cups go right in the dishwasher anyway.
I wasn't suggesting that I didn't need a power socket but rather suggesting I was considering having a 15amp one verses the standard 10amp.
Id be happy with most of my cups in the dishwasher, but a sink directly next to the machine would make maintance easier and avoid me running into trouble spreading my mess . Sometimes I like to let things soak. There will be ample room above the machine.
I set up a golden rectangle, based on the golden triangle of kitchen design with coffee machine at the extra corner, between fridge and sink. I find it very handy as I'm usually making coffee with milk or butter.
Even if you only plan on getting the 10A Profitec 700, I'd still be tempted to have the electrician put a 15A circuit in for future.
Perhaps consider having a filter coffee station too?
My coffee "corner" is setup in my dining room with access to the kitchen sink (open plan house). I've got a section of the coffee bench dedicated to filter coffee (V60 & Kalita Wave, Hario Buono on a portable induction cooker and Lido III). The only wish I have which you'll be able to do is plumb in the machine.
But then again, there is a charm in making filter coffee in front of your guests, so maybe in your case the filter station in the corner of the kitchen may not be ideal
For me the most important thing was that the coffee station was in a nice open space, seeing I spend so much time there. No overhead cupboards to dodge and a bit of an outlook.
It's not really close to the sink or the fridge, but it's plumbed in and I don't drink much Milk coffee. I have to walk over to get the milk it for my Mrs but no big deal.
Drawers underneath hold all the cups, coffee beans, dosing tools and other coffee hardware.
And make sure you plan heaps of general bench space too.. You can never have too much.
but you raise a good point and I agree about the 15amp.
Our plan whilst not complete is very open from where I was hoping to set it all up anyway, it's open living plan & I will gain much pleasure from sitting back glancing over at the machine, wondering if it's CoffeeOClock again. Cheers.
As I said earlier, probably last time for us, so I may as well do it right. I was trying to work it out alone and my wife suggested I ask you guys, she said, "Why don't you ask the people at that forum you're always gawking at"
The hard bit is I want it all now but I will have to wait & persevere with what I have in the mean time, which is on its last legs & was only ever a back up to my old machine.
As for getting the Coffee Station right, it may only be the case of $200-$300 dollars extra spent to make it all just flow right and money well worth spent.
Anyway, any suggestions much appreciated & I apologise if I don't get in here immediately to say THANKYOU for your ideas......I'm time poor ATM & a crappy typist
Great timing, I've just moved into a new rental and the coffee setup is currently occupying the only useful bench space, right between sink and stove. Weighing up a separate coffee station in the living room, or a movable island that could double as a dining table to replace the lost bench space. Maybe both...
Obviously as a renter my options are more limited, but I'll watch this thread for ideas.
Good luck - sounds like you're on the right track.
speaking of coffee stations reminded me of something I saw earlier on in the forums another CSer had done.
Really awesome DIY job coffee station.
Anyway, some great ideas by very pleasant folks, thanks a lot.
special thanks to Paul -dodgy x coffee.
dude I nearly fell off my stool when I saw your set up......TALK ABOUT Sweet.
Really good job.
Is there anything you would change about that set up?
Im meeting with the man next week about our kitchen design and I had done some drawings to show him what I wanted in the coffee station......I might just send him to your place instead and you can show him how it's done.
i wouldn't mind seeing a few close ups of the knock box to see how that was done.....if that's not too taller order?
i had visions of mine breaking the first time I bashed out a puk.
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Im basically OCD and I'd drive any normal person nuts with the way I plan things, my wife actually said, tell him to send me the coffee machine and she'll send me to you.
Jokes aside, I see such a great wealth of knowledge on this forum and I'm trying to tap into that.
thanks to all of you, it's appreciated.
edit to say: the kitchen man will probably roll his eyes when I talk to him and then show me dozens of photos of jobs he's done with inbuilt knock boxes etc.
imo, it will be a great place to throw veggie scraps and empty every day or two into my compost pile. Every kitchen should have a knock box.
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That concrete bench looks amazing!
Is 50 deep enough?
how bout a drain to an underbench or face that's easily manually emptied......plumbing is the way to go.
i have jack hammer.....willing to travel, concrete smongcrete
sometimes, you just need to man-up with these women, walk in the room, hands on your hips, stamp your foot and say, "Listen here woman, me and the boys, we're gonna kanga up this floor on the weekend, run a few pipes and then we're gonna get in a few tradies to sort the mess out and you woman, you're going to get a second job to pay for it. Then run like all hell for goodness sake.
ps: don't tell her I said so
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no easy answer I'm afraid.
dont downgrade machines....upgrade kitchens I had a laugh but it ain't cheap
The profits from the Pro800 are being used to import more hats from NSW.
Big red mug has no waste generated other than what goes in the cup. Maybe thats your answer
You could glue a lever lever on the side of it and pretend to move it.....make sounds with your lips etc.
Remember, it's all smoke and mirrors and if George C is so happy with the results in the cup, you can be happy too.
Either that or......you could have a little accident with the current bench which required its replacement. How bout, "honey I slipped and ran into the kitchen bench with the car.
either that hat or cut a hole in the wall and let the rear of the 800 live in the room behind !
Can you take over the laundry or something?
These are desperate times.
^ So what are you trying to say Pauly? You're a bit "slutty"?
Now you've caught my attention with this invention Mr Paul.
I could have 2 draws.....upper with inbuilt knock box, lower for storage of items pilfered from the dodgy x show room after I visit
Not mine... How would I annoy the GOM of the forum without the word "Magic" in my name?
.Sig maybe... But the glove doesn't really fit me.
Pauly on the other hand... Though he's more of a serial headgear consumerologist