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Thread: Espresso Machine - Resale Values ?

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    Espresso Machine - Resale Values ?

    A question I've been Pondering lately is, I wonder if there are particular brands, makes and models of Espresso machines that have higher percentage of resale values over other machines.

    Of course I realise that equipment that's festideously maintained & presented will always fetcher higher resale than the same machine in the trashed version, however I'm wondering if there's particular makes that do better than others?

    I feel this may play a 'minor' role in what machine I decide to by this year.

    I look forward to hearing what your thoughts on this are?

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    Any of the top echelon machines mentioned in the Pointy End and Extreme Machines categories retain their value extremely well.

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    Simple, well made, low maintenance machines hold their value.
    Levers fit in this category, and are usually long term propositions. They don't change much in shape or form over the years.
    The value of the AUD against the Euro can have an impact as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Any of the top echelon machines mentioned in the Pointy End and Extreme Machines categories retain their value extremely well.

    Mal.

    Thanks Dimal,

    I was wondering if there are any stand outs, there's so many to pick from & if performance was considered equal (which it's not) but if that weren't a consideration (& don't worry, it is), I wonder if say would say a rocket commander high resale over a profitec or a Linea over a Bezzera or ECM etc.

    what about rarer equipment like a GS3 or Slayer?

    I understand there's much larger outlays with some of those verses others but I wonder about return as a percentage.

    I am also considering, performance, reliability, after sales service, repair and maintance costs, asthetics and the ability of the various forum sponsors to pat their heads whilst simeltaneously rubbing their bellies and hoping on one foot whilst pulling a shot blindfolded.

    I guess picking the correct machine is much more important than worrying about resale as if I get it right they might burry me with it.

    Would be interested to hear if anyone else has an opinion about this. I guess some of the sponsors, trade and resell gear too, so they ve probably got experiences in this area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosco_Lever View Post
    Simple, well made, low maintenance machines hold their value.
    Levers fit in this category, and are usually long term propositions. They don't change much in shape or form over the years.
    The value of the AUD against the Euro can have an impact as well.

    Excellent. Thanks.

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    You can get a great idea of resale value reading through the "for sale" section here. That's REAL sales and a real market value for second-hand gear.

    I own a couple of GS3's (home and work) and a Rocket Giotto (for carry under my arm, off-site machine), all great gear and resale would be about 70% of purchase price but I have no reason to unload any of them. The two GS3's I bought second hand for about 75% of new price and as mentioned, the US$ is the biggest variable in what they are "worth" now as a GS in Australia will vary from AUD$4000-$8000 on dollar fluctuations.

    Living a long way east... I would hesitate to get a Slayer until local service is available and would lean towards ECA or La Marzocco as parts are available on the ground but having said that, any of our site sponsors would freight parts to you fast if needed (including Slayer parts from The Coffeeman).

    Why not swing into Dimattina in Perth to have a look. They have the LM and Giotto and would support them well.
    Domestic Espresso Machines. - Dimattina

    back to your question though... (with some declared and non-accidental bias).
    A GS3 will always carry resale value for pointy-end performance, a Giotto will carry it for looks (often called wife factor around here) and great coffee. Neither come-up second hand very often although there are 1000's of both in the country, most people get one and keep it forever negating discussions on resale value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post

    I own a couple of GS3's (home and work) and a Rocket Giotto (for carry under my arm, off-site machine),


    You can carry a Rocket Giotto under your arm? Impressive.
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    Thanks Andy, I appreciate all of you're time to type all of that up.

    I did have a look at what had been sold through the forum but wondered if the price paid matched the asking price with many of them.

    Anyway, thanks for your advice, Resale was just a side issue I was wondering about.

    PS: Im a long way from Perth, I'm in the Sunny State of Queensland, if I fly anywhere on a mission, it will probably be to Victoria, cos there seems to be lots of coffee stuff down there
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFM60 View Post


    You can carry a Rocket Giotto under your arm? Impressive.

    Well... compared to a GS3 which is a struggle with two arms and one of the GS3's is a plumbed-in version so pointless moving it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    I did have a look at what had been sold through the forum but wondered if the price paid matched the asking price with many of them.
    Valid thought... I think most are pretty close as CS'rs tend to offer things up at a fair price to start with and don't have seller fees etc to cover.

    PS: Im a long way from Perth, I'm in the Sunny State of Queensland
    Oops, my bad. I thought you were in Perth for some reason. In QLD... swing by Di Bella in Brizvegas to get some hands-on in their training room. They always look after CS'rs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFM60 View Post

    You can carry a Rocket Giotto under your arm? Impressive.
    Time to hit the gym!

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