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Thread: The Salami shot, interesting espresso tasting exercise.

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    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
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    The Salami shot, interesting espresso tasting exercise.

    Stumbled on this, interesting concept and simple to do, well worth a look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aD33p4_fJo
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    I saw this the other day and am going to give it a try soon. Unfortunately am taking a week off from caffeine at the minute. Yelta have you tried it? What did you think?
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    No, haven't tried it Ninja, probably won't, I pretty well know what I like and how I like it.

    Thought it may be of interest to some beginning the espresso journey.

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    Been doing that as a training exercise for at least 10 years and think that it might have been Chris Natoli who showed me that at William Angliss a dozen years ago.
    ...but to my knowledge, it's never been called salami shot (insert eye roll here)

    "Components of an Espresso Shot" -
    is the very first thing I do when training newbies on a commercial site.

    You can do it with 5 cups okay, 10 seconds apart resulting in:
    1 x 30 second shot - good espresso with the first three quarters all mixed together. (don't add the last 10 seconds)
    1 x 10 second shot - ristretto style syrup
    1 x 10 second shot - superauto style mid body
    1 x 10 second shot - low body, sub-par shot.
    1 x 10 second shot of bitter dishwater that tastes like panadol (which is also what you get the longer the shot runs)

    If you have never tried it, do so. It's the number one way of explaining the importance of timing and what flavours you add to the cup by pouring too long/fast/badly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Been doing that as a training exercise for at least 10 years...
    Yeah- that was a loooong time ago/past life and was actually something I arrived at myself. Maybe others thought the same or maybe the idea just spread. Who knows...Always thought it was a great learning exercise though...

    These days we could throw a refractometer at the results and have even more fun.

    Time does certainly fly...

    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    Yeah- that was a loooong time ago/past life and was actually something I arrived at myself. Maybe others thought the same or maybe the idea just spread. Who knows...Always thought it was a great learning exercise though...

    These days we could throw a refractometer at the results and have even more fun.

    Time does certainly fly...

    Chris
    Another crumb of knowledge thrown by the Coffee Illuminati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Been doing that as a training exercise for at least 10 years and think that it might have been Chris Natoli who showed me that at William Angliss a dozen years ago.
    ...but to my knowledge, it's never been called salami shot (insert eye roll here)

    "Components of an Espresso Shot" -
    is the very first thing I do when training newbies on a commercial site.

    You can do it with 5 cups okay, 10 seconds apart resulting in:
    1 x 30 second shot - good espresso with the first three quarters all mixed together. (don't add the last 10 seconds)
    1 x 10 second shot - ristretto style syrup
    1 x 10 second shot - superauto style mid body
    1 x 10 second shot - low body, sub-par shot.
    1 x 10 second shot of bitter dishwater that tastes like panadol (which is also what you get the longer the shot runs)

    If you have never tried it, do so. It's the number one way of explaining the importance of timing and what flavours you add to the cup by pouring too long/fast/badly.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    Yeah- that was a loooong time ago/past life and was actually something I arrived at myself. Maybe others thought the same or maybe the idea just spread. Who knows...Always thought it was a great learning exercise though...

    These days we could throw a refractometer at the results and have even more fun.

    Time does certainly fly...

    Chris
    A real gem of an eye opener that one. Chris showed me too, (also many years ago) and you should see café staff eyes pop when they have a slurp at the last two!! Real steep learning curve.

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    Hey! I thought that was my idea
    I call it the Rule of Fourths and it's the biggest "ah-ha" learning for most during K Bean Training

    First I pull a shot and break it into 4 parts.
    Next I get people to taste each one, working back from the last to the first.
    Then I mix parts 1 and 2 together to get close to a ristretto.
    Next I mix parts 1, 2 and 3 together to get close to an espresso.
    It's a great way to show people the way extract changes with time, and also, to teach people how and why extraction by colour works.
    Cheers, Paul

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    Yep, remember Chris describing this within the Admin group, way back when...
    Been part of my arsenal ever since too.

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Yep, remember Chris describing this within the Admin group, way back when...

    Mal.
    Yes Mal. That was back in the days when a computer arrived on a pallet...

    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Hey! I thought that was my idea
    You were yet to hit puberty Paul...

    You like it, it's yours....

    C
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    You were yet to hit puberty Paul...
    You like it, it's yours....
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    You made me laugh C ...and you are probably correct.
    Thanks for letting me use it and all the best.
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    Yep - Chris also taught it to me way back when...

    Been a most useful way to show people the variation.
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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    I'm not 100% sure whether I was first exposed to this idea by Chris (on here....I definitely saw him post on it here ages ago) or Attilio when I bought my first proper machine.

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