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Thread: In case you needed another source of espresso in your life...

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    In case you needed another source of espresso in your life...

    ...there's now the, purported, worlds first caffeinated bagel: https://www.einsteinbros.com/boostedbagels#marquee1


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    DRINKING A CAFFEINATED BEVERAGE WITH OUR BAGEL WILL RESULT IN HIGHER LEVELS OF CAFFEINE CONSUMPTION.
    Also, eating bagels with your coffee increases your bagel consumption.
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    For some reason bagels failed to take off in Oz, not surprised, have tried them numerous times whilst visiting the US, a bit like eating a doughy week old bread roll with filling.

    I enjoy most American culinary offerings, bagels! nah, sweet potato with sugar and cinnamon! nah, scrapple! double nah.

    "(Scrapple is typically made of hog offal, such as the head, heart, liver, and other trimmings, which are boiled with any bones attached (often the entire head), to make a broth. Once cooked, bones and fat are removed, the meat is reserved, and (dry) cornmeal is boiled in the broth to make a mush."

    Perhaps these foods are revenge on us Aussies for inflicting Vegemite on the world.
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    Bagels are delicious, I make them at home whenever I can, and bought plenty of them when I was in the US. Lots of places to buy bagels here in Sydney and I know of a few excellent bagel choices in Hobart. Maybe they didn't take off, but you can certainly buy a tasty bagel in Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    For some reason bagels failed to take off in Oz, not surprised, have tried them numerous times whilst visiting the US, a bit like eating a doughy week old bread roll with filling.
    Never been to the US but that's exactly my experience with them here. Figured they must have lost something in the trip overseas if they were so popular in the States, but maybe they didn't.

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    But caffeine pumped bagels is a dumb idea.
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    They probably just added caffeine powder to the dough

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Figured they must have lost something in the trip overseas if they were so popular in the States, but maybe they didn't.
    Trust me L3N, they never had much to lose, pretty ordinary fare.

    But, Al enjoys em! so there ya go, one mans meat as they say.

    Oh! and while I'm about it, what the hell is a schmear???? sounds like something you may stumble across in soiled underwear.

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    I've not been to the US either and most of the bagels I've tried here have been diabolical. I think the problem is that you need to go somewhere that sells a lot of of bagels and have the ability to keep them restocked throughout the day. I have made bagels also and the quality nosedives pretty quickly after cooling down. I imagine most of the bagels we try are the bagelry equivalent of a cafe that keeps the doser fully topped up all day long
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    Of course they're not really bagels, not in the traditional form anyway. Baking a firm, flavoured bread roll with a hole in it and calling it a bagel seems to be all you have to do to sell 'bagels' these days. They're yet another example of an extremely bastardised ethnic food and I'm sure anyone that doesn't like them hasn't actually tried a real, traditional bagel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnafunk View Post
    I've not been to the US either and most of the bagels I've tried here have been diabolical. I think the problem is that you need to go somewhere that sells a lot of of bagels and have the ability to keep them restocked throughout the day. I have made bagels also and the quality nosedives pretty quickly after cooling down. I imagine most of the bagels we try are the bagelry equivalent of a cafe that keeps the doser fully topped up all day long
    Quality nose-diving, absolutely. Make bagels when in company, eat within the hour!* (Or freeze, and toast)


    *not literally, they're just too tasty to last very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    They're yet another example of an extremely bastardised ethnic food and I'm sure anyone that doesn't like them hasn't actually tried a real, traditional bagel.
    I've tried em in various locations in the US, particularly New York.

    As I said earlier, very ordinary fare, I'd need to be hungry to eat one voluntarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Trust me L3N, they never had much to lose, pretty ordinary fare.

    But, Al enjoys em! so there ya go, one mans meat as they say.

    Oh! and while I'm about it, what the hell is a schmear???? sounds like something you may stumble across in soiled underwear.
    Well, never surprising when you and I disagree on something Yelta!!

    Not that I knew what a schmear was, but fun to discover that it is legitimately bagel (or rather, yiddish) related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmear

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    Thought I'd chime in on the bagel front.
    I am from Montreal, which arguably have the best bagel places in all North America.
    A good bagel will not decrease in quality significantly when cooled down, but if not frozen or consumed within 12-24 hours, will definitely have a noticeable change in texture and thus quality.
    I may be biased, but I believe bagels should be baked in a wood-fired oven...and sesame bagels are the true legitimate bagel whereas other "flavored" bagels are just...no.

    You definitely can not say you dislike bagels until you've tried a fresh (or freshly frozen and re-toasted) Montreal bagel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy View Post
    You definitely can not say you dislike bagels until you've tried a fresh (or freshly frozen and re-toasted) Montreal bagel.
    Evening danyboy.

    Doubt I will ever get to Montreal so will just have to take your word for that.

    Heading for the East Cost of the US for a month soon, will go out of my way the try some (good bagels) and report back.

    Nope! ain't tryin scrapple again, will leave it for them that are prepared to eat that stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Evening danyboy.

    Doubt I will ever get to Montreal so will just have to take your word for that.

    Heading for the East Cost of the US for a month soon, will go out of my way the try some (good bagels) and report back.

    Nope! ain't tryin scrapple again, will leave it for them that are prepared to eat that stuff.
    If you don't like em, no point eating em! No need for a Yelta stamp of approval to enjoy myself a good bagel!

    But, one place I enjoyed was Leo's Bagels, in lower Manhattan (3 Hanover Square, New York) if you're in the vicinity of Wall St. They also sold me the tastiest filter coffee I had in the US, reminded me of a pour-over (once it cooled a bit!)
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    I remember sitting outside a cafe in DC on a chilli Nov morning , hot coffee, ultra fresh sesame seed bagel with Philly cheese spread....mmmm,....mmmmmm.

    US have the best bagels, probably better on the east coast and probably Montreal!(that was for you danyboy)

    The thought of a caffeinated bagel,,,,NO THANKS! Sounds a little too incestuous!

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    The thought of an Einstein bros bagel is like the thought of a Starbucks mocha frappuchino

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    There are some great bagel places in Melbourne. I have found some acceptable ones at a market here in Marrickville; otherwise Sydney cafe offerings have been diabolical.

    A local cafe (oddly named "coffee, tea & me") specialises in bagels with a dizzying array of toppings. The bagels themselves look OK but I haven't tried them yet as traditional schmears are conspicuously absent. 🤔

    Oh, my dad hates them too 😂
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    I just found out that Einstein Bros is a chain restaurant and are majority owned by the growing empire that is JAB. So they are to quality bagels what Dominoes is to quality pizza, Taco Bell to quality Tex-Mex, or Dunkin Donuts to quality coffee.
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    Yep hence to reference to Starbucks! Anyone walking into Einstein Bros will get that vibe immediately. It's website might say "local" but it certainly doesn't feel authentic. Not that I've actually eaten a bagel there...

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    You can buy the einstein bros bagels at costco. Cut them in half and toast them and they are a good breakfast. Honey and cinnamon go well

    I take my caffeine on the side

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    I take my breakfast on the side of my caffeine
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    Caffeine is my breakfast!
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    If you find yourself in Canberra on a Sunday head down to the Kingston Bus Stop Markets (Old Bus Depot Markets). The stallholder that has all the fresh bread/pastries also bakes really nice bagels - The blueberry ones are great and jalapeno/cheese are an excellent savory option. No Caffeine bagels though :-(

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