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    excessive sugar consumption, definition.

    Have often contemplated what exactly constitutes excess consumption, the link below is interesting.

    "According to diet surveys conducted by the USDA, the average American consumes 20 teaspoons of added sugar each day."
    That's almost 85 grams, for them that are wondering what 85 grams of white sugar looks like, it's about half of a 300ml wine glass.

    This is what 50 grams looks like, add another 35 grams, beyond belief.

    I use sugar in my coffee, however at less than 10 grams a day don't think I have a lot to worry about.
    https://www.diagnose-me.com/symptoms...onsumption.php



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    Interesting to hear that you put sugar in your coffee, I am glad you brought up the subject though!

    Sugar is a form of refined carbohydrate that humans do not really need and should consume sparingly, sugar is added to a lot of different foods and drinks. In fact many people think orange juice is a health drink but it is often laden with sugar and worse then soft drinks like Coca-Cola. Another problem regarding sugar is them Boost juice and other counter type stores selling so call health drinks, many of them remove all the fibrous material from the fruit and leave the drink with an overdose of fructose or fruit sugar.

    If you want to one thing to improve your health and improve your diet then removing sugar or all forms of refined carbohydrates is a very good option. Sugar is rocket fuel which should only be consumed by athletes who will use it to fuel workouts or replenish depleted energy stores, for mere mortals sugar is like putting high octane fuel in a car designed to run on 91 pump.
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    Oh no.........
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    agreed lootee. sugar is institutionalised into our diets - weíre so used to sweetness that we donít even notice it when itís there. particularly in savouries, like tomato and bbq sauces.

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    I sometimes wonder if posters take the time to read and understand the original post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodhouse View Post
    agreed lootee. sugar is institutionalised into our diets - we’re so used to sweetness that we don’t even notice it when it’s there. particularly in savouries, like tomato and bbq sauces.
    Sugar is a sometime food, even Cookie Monster understands this today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    I sometimes wonder if posters take the time to read and understand the original post.
    What is there not to understand, your post was about sugar consumption, 10grams a day in your coffee is fine but add soft drink, biscuits, condiments, cake, and other sugar sweetened foods and your consumption just may hit that 85 gram mark. Same could be said about salt, "oh I only add a sprinkle on my steak of an evening", that is not the problem it is the salt laden processed foods that people eat way to much of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lootee View Post
    Sugar is a sometime food, even Cookie Monster understands this today.



    What is there not to understand, your post was about sugar consumption, 10grams a day in your coffee is fine but add soft drink, biscuits, condiments, cake, and other sugar sweetened foods and your consumption just may hit that 85 gram mark. Same could be said about salt, "oh I only add a sprinkle on my steak of an evening", that is not the problem it is the salt laden processed foods that people eat way to much of.
    Sounds like you are assuming much about Yelta's diet here. Maybe Yelta is on a strict Paleo diet but can't do without sugar in his morning brew?

    Either way, this is spiraling well out of the scope of the original article posted and what this forum is really about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    Sounds like you are assuming much about Yelta's diet here. Maybe Yelta is on a strict Paleo diet but can't do without sugar in his morning brew?

    Either way, this is spiraling well out of the scope of the original article posted and what this forum is really about.
    Thanks WBN, as you say, my original post was about the definition of excess sugar consumption, the evils of refined sugar has been discussed ad nauseam in numerous other Coffee Snob threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Oh no.........
    Oh yes........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Thanks WBN, as you say, my original post was about the definition of excess sugar consumption, the evils of refined sugar has been discussed ad nauseam in numerous other Coffee Snob threads.
    i think it's worth discussing a linked article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lootee View Post
    Interesting to hear that you put sugar in your coffee, I am glad you brought up the subject though!

    Sugar is a form of refined carbohydrate that humans do not really need and should consume sparingly, sugar is added to a lot of different foods and drinks. In fact many people think orange juice is a health drink but it is often laden with sugar and worse then soft drinks like Coca-Cola. Another problem regarding sugar is them Boost juice and other counter type stores selling so call health drinks, many of them remove all the fibrous material from the fruit and leave the drink with an overdose of fructose or fruit sugar.

    If you want to one thing to improve your health and improve your diet then removing sugar or all forms of refined carbohydrates is a very good option. Sugar is rocket fuel which should only be consumed by athletes who will use it to fuel workouts or replenish depleted energy stores, for mere mortals sugar is like putting high octane fuel in a car designed to run on 91 pump.
    How does E85 fit into the analogy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    Sounds like you are assuming much about Yelta's diet here. Maybe Yelta is on a strict Paleo diet but can't do without sugar in his morning brew?

    Either way, this is spiraling well out of the scope of the original article posted and what this forum is really about.
    Where did I say anything about Yelta's diet apart from the 10grams of sugar Yelta stated?

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    Excessive - more than is necessary, normal, or desirable

    Sugar - a sweet crystalline substance obtained from various plants, especially sugar cane and sugar beet, consisting essentially of sucrose, and used as a sweetener in food and drink

    Consumption - the action of using up a resource

    The current Recommended Daily Allowance is described here:
    According to the American Heart Association (AHA), the maximum amount of added sugars you should eat in a day are, Men: 150 calories per day (37.5 grams or 9 teaspoons). Women: 100 calories per day (25 grams or 6 teaspoons).


    So following all of the above it is pretty simple to work out what is currently considered too much.

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    Your right Noonar, not difficult to work out, sadly a large part of the population don't know and/or don't care.

    Then of course we get the self righteous zealots who decry the use of any sugar in any form, there is a middle road.
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    As a four year type 2 diabetic on insulin who had ceased adding sugar or drinking soft drink over 30 years ago I was amazed by the diabetes educator to see how much sugar, over 30 teaspoons, I was consuming daily under 50 plus names in processed foods which I had thought were healthy. Merry Christmas.
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    If a health worry freedom and longevity are peoples goals then this may be of help-

    https://theconversation.com/experts-...ger-life-89447

    :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonar View Post
    If a health worry freedom and longevity are peoples goals then this may be of help-

    https://theconversation.com/experts-...ger-life-89447

    :-)
    Good link noonar, guess if you were to try to sum it up succinctly we could say, moderation in most things, along with a purpose in life.

    I'll bet the communities mentioned don't have a diet high in added refined sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Your right Noonar, not difficult to work out, sadly a large part of the population don't know and/or don't care.

    Then of course we get the self righteous zealots who decry the use of any sugar in any form, there is a middle road.
    I am sure if Cookie Monster can work out sometimes foods then so can you, alternatively if you wish to indulge in sugar use it to fuel a half marathon or huge gym session, this is where sugar is very useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenK View Post
    As a four year type 2 diabetic on insulin who had ceased adding sugar or drinking soft drink over 30 years ago I was amazed by the diabetes educator to see how much sugar, over 30 teaspoons, I was consuming daily under 50 plus names in processed foods which I had thought were healthy. Merry Christmas.
    Hence the problem and with diabetes on the rise people should know the truth about refined carbohydrates and health.

    Too many people have been let down by corporations and health authorities who told us as children that fat is bad, but let foods be sold with enough sugar to fuel a Mack truck.

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