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    Cool Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016

    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016



    Available now in BeanBay: CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Green Coffee - Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016


    Entry into the 2016 Home Roaster Competition.


    For the very first time the Home Roaster category will use a "control bean". All entries will receive the same green bean, coffee bags and all postage paid for entry into 3 categories (Espresso, Latte, Filter).


    you will receive:


    1: 2.5kg of green beans
    2: 3 x entry bags with code numbers (these must be used)
    3: Freight to you.
    4: Express Post satchel to return your entries on the 9th Nov
    5: Freight to the Port Mac. competition.


    you will roast and return:
    300g - Espresso
    300g - Cafe Latte
    300g - Filter


    The beans will be judged anonymously by coffee industry professionals at the Golden Bean Roasting competition in Port Macquarie on the 16th, 17th and 18th of November 2016 and the winners of each category will be announced on the night of the 19th.


    Entries need to be posted back on the 9th of November so they arrive here on the 10th and 11th to ensure they make it into the judging. You can enter more than once. Any substitution beans will void all your entries. Late returns will not be judged. Zipper bags should be taped at the top if you can't heat seal them.


    Have fun and good luck!

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    Can we nominate the control bean?
    My vote is the PNG wilds that you had a couple of years ago, was like a single bean blend.

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    That was a good one, bit tricky to handle though.
    The control bean will be secret till after the entries are in.

    It will be something good that works through a range of roast depths so each person can submit their take on it.

    2.5kg is enough to do some small sample roasts and even a mistake before roasting the 900g beans for the entry.

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    Hey Andy, thanks for reviving the comp!!!

    Will all entries receive feedback as they have in the past?

    Do you have to send in all three bags to be judged? or can you submit just the espresso and latte entry?

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    All righty then!

    I think I'll give it a go for the first time since 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukemc View Post
    Hey Andy, thanks for reviving the comp!!!
    Will all entries receive feedback as they have in the past?
    Do you have to send in all three bags to be judged? or can you submit just the espresso and latte entry?
    Feedback?
    I expect so. I'll try and encourage the judges to use the same forms and format as the commercial entries. I'll then collect the forms in PortMac and will probably scan or type the feedback in the week I return (after I get over the roaster back order catch-up!).

    Enter all 3?
    No need to enter all but you would be silly not to enter 3. What you thought was a great espresso the judges might like as a filter better. You don't have to own a Brazen or other filter machine to enter it, you can try your roast in a plunger to get a fair idea of how a filter will come out.


    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy_1999 View Post
    All righty then!
    I think I'll give it a go for the first time since 2013.
    As you should Brett! It's always fun and I'm excited to see how this new comp format goes. Having a control bean means you don't have to compete against million dollar bean budgets, or enter a complex blend all you have to do is great job with what you are given.
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    Awesome thanks Andy. Will definitely enter for the first time. Cheers.
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    Well, the control bean certainly smells - thought I'd been delivered a bag of freshly mown grass cuttings when I got home yesterday. Must be very fresh into the warehouse, I reckon.
    Many more people entered yet ?
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    Practice number one!

    image.jpg


    Gee it's hard to take a good photo of beans, isn't it?

    There's some tiny beans and some real peanuts in the mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickR View Post
    Gee it's hard to take a good photo of beans, isn't it?
    For sure. Beans do a great job of absorbing light and cameras can only see reflected light... Even with great digital technology it's tricky to get a picture of what you see with your high resolution and auto-aperture eyes!

    Your roast looks great though and yeah these are straight off the boat.

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    Well, I'm miffed. I could have sworn it was a central american bean by looks, but the 'yirg nose' (my wife) says it smells like an ethiopian coffee. She finds some sort of horrible smell from a lot of the Ethiopian beans which I never get at all (apparently thankfully).

    It is nice and smooth so far (after just 2 days).

    It is also quite uneven in size (like a Sidamo or similar) so might hand sort the peanuts from the pebbles for the next batch.

    My wife thinks I should keep them all rather then enter the comp though (apart from the smell that is). Drinking well as a latte so far.
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    Hi Andy,

    I logged on to ask about competitions, (I think I am Ready!). Turns out no need to ask.
    Buying now, I have been experimenting with blends for about a year and testing them on fellow workmates.

    Would like feedback in the way of "placed 30 out of 100". or what improvements can be done for next year, if possible.

    Cheers Glen

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    Feedback with comps has always been a little "hit 'n miss" but every year it improves and I can't see why this year would be any different.
    Using a control bean should help take some of the human error out of it as the judges only need to determine how good the take on this bean was.

    My wife thinks I should keep them all rather then enter the comp though (apart from the smell that is). Drinking well as a latte so far.
    That's a good sign!

    The good news for her is that when we announce what the control bean was (on competition close) it will be available in BeanBay for anyone who wants to retry it.
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    Hi Andy, regarding your reply about entering all 3 bags to be judged, does that mean that each bag (i.e.Espresso, Cafe Latte & Filter) will be split into three and judged in each category, eg, what you enter as an expresso bean will also be judged in the filter and cafe latte sections too? Did I understand that correctly?

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    I believe it is 3 bags total, each bag needs 300g of roasted beans. Each bag is for a different category.
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    My second practice attempt (200g green) has resulted in a nice, biscuit-y aroma and very smooth as a latte. A nice bean, I will certainly buy these from Beanbay in future.

    I am determined to work out what bean it is before being revealed!

    2kgs of green to go, going to do my major practice roast this weekend weather permitting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickR View Post
    I believe it is 3 bags total, each bag needs 300g of roasted beans. Each bag is for a different category.
    Ok, thanks, got it now. I realised I had misunderstood what Andy had said.

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    Yep, what NickR said is correct.

    3 entries, each are 300g
    When we ship the beans to you there are also 3 x 500g bags labeled with your identifying entry number and the category. All judging is done anonymously and not until we have the winners will the numbers be matched to a name.

    The 300g figure is to allow the barista to set the grinder and pour the perfect shot, also allows for a "remake" if the judges require it.

    For the commercial entries in the Golden Bean roasters need to submit 500g of each but 1.5kg of roasted coffee is a LOT for a home roaster so we are trying the 300g figure to get the best balance to suit you guys. It also keeps the entry cost down as 3 x 300g fits into a 1kg satchel and is cheaper to move around the country.
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    All righty. Due to various factors (travelling interstate for work) I decided to do my comp roasting today.
    As I was getting the bags ready for the return satchel, it occurred to me that there was room in there for something extra.
    I thought perhaps some of the cotton bags the beans come in.

    I asked Andy via email if this would be OK and he said yes it would, and also worth mentioning on the forum.

    So there you have it!

    Good luck roasters.

    Brett.

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    I think I ended up getting 18 in there. I had a few tries of different methods so lost count a bit
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    ...and a great idea it is too.

    Use the little bit of remaining space to return some cotton bags for recycling.

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    300g... 300g of green? or 300g post-roast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesandeights97 View Post
    300g... 300g of green? or 300g post-roast?
    Reckon that would be the latter...

    Mal.
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    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016

    300g roasted per entry category would be the amount you post back.
    Last edited by matth3wh; 6th November 2016 at 11:23 PM.
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    @Andy is it too late to order a entry pack. Can't pm you though inbox full??

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    Andy doesn't do PM's. Use the 'Contact Us' link at the top and bottom of every page.

    Given that the entries must be posted back by 9 Nov I suspect it's to late to get an entry pack.


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    As above... cutting it fine but you might make it.

    Ordered and paid now, shipping same day, you should have it tomorrow or the day after, roast and ship back same day... could be done.... just.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesandeights97 View Post
    300g... 300g of green? or 300g post-roast?
    300g roasted.

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    A big big thank you Andy for making this possible and your hard work and logistics and planning. Pass on thanks to the judges/organisers for continuing the home roaster categories. It's been fun! Hopefully now my wife and I can return to normal caffeine intake levels. :-)
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    You are more than welcome.

    I love that CoffeeSnobs all over the country have fostered so many newbies into professional roasters and all of them started their journey with a curiosity and a bag of green beans. Not all home roasters will become professionals but nearly all home roasters will produce something that they and their family love and is often better than many cafes and restaurants they visit. It's a great hobby and this forum has always been an excellent learning and sharing platform.

    So, the competition entries are now closed and roasted beans are piling back into the Snobbery which means we can now announce what the control bean was.

    ...insert drum roll here...

    Mexico el Triunfo Arabigo

    Yep, it is the bean that Zed won the very first Golden Bean Home Roaster Competition with. It's a beautiful coffee that works well through a range of roast depths which should allow CS'rs to end-up with many different takes on it. I can't wait to hear what the judges say about everyone's roasts in a week and a half.

    Regardless of the judges opinions, I can tell you from experience that just going through the competition entry process is nearly always a "win". I find I focus and use the time to really look and critically understand what a tweak in profile or a different approch can make and find myself using those "tricks" in my toolbox through the rest of the year.
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    Hi, I just realised on the pre-paid return bag the address was Geelong instead of Port Mac.?

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    Yep, not accidental.

    You are sending the entries to CoffeeSnobs as we are organising the home roaster comp separate to the commercial comp... and then taking the entries to the Golden Bean for judging.

    I shipped 2 large boxes of entries to Port Mac yesterday, the entries that AustPost are still moving across the country will travel in my carry-on when I fly out Tuesday. The late returns will miss the competition.
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    Ahh why did I order beans last week. Would've been so keen for some of that Mexican! Alas. Hopefully it doesn't run out before I next order :P

    Or, I probably just plain missed it in the options.

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    So now the entries are closed... here's how mine looked after roasting:
    home roaster comp 2016.jpg
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    My express post satchel smelt wonderful going into the post office.

    Unfortunately that probably means they weren't sealed well enough...

    My test batches were very yummy though, would definitely get more of these beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy_1999 View Post
    So now the entries are closed... here's how mine looked after roasting:
    They look great Fatboy.

    My express post satchel smelt wonderful going into the post office.
    They all smelt great when they got to the Snobbery. The one way valve lets wafts of goodness out when needed... it must drive couriers all over the country insane.

    Most of the beans were freighted up here (Port Mac) with the exception of 15kg odd in my suitcase. I need to buy clothes here as I had no room for them and all the beans. Ahhh... the things we do for you lot!

    Today was mostly commercial milk-based and commercial filter. There were some rippers in the filter section although I don't know who's they were. After pouring the judges coffees out of the Brazen there was always a splash for the guys running the machines (if it pricked our interest). Boy, I drank a LOT of coffee today. We only just finished getting through the commercial filters today so there was no time for the Home Filter.

    All the home roaster entries are here and sorted into their 3 categories. While I expected they would tack onto the back of the commercial judging sessions it appears now they might be all done in one shot later in the week. Something like a room full of judges to cover the 3 sections. Anyway, when it happens I'll update details here.
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    I can't wait till we get the results and feedbacks!
    =)

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    So...
    The Latte and the Filter sections were judged today.

    goldenbean-home-filter-2016.jpg

    Above is a picture of 6 of the home filter entries being brewed on the wall 'o Brazen brewers.

    It was great to see how many different takes there were on a control bean and a few of the home entries in latte and filter were scoring higher than some of the commercial coffee entries earlier in the week. Well done CS'rs!

    ...anyway... it's now 10:30pm Friday and after a 15 hour coffee day (and a string of similar days) I'm about to crash but thought I would post an update to say that all the filter and latte score sheets are entered into the system!

    The home espresso category will be judged tomorrow, scores entered later in the day and the winners announced Sat night at the Golden Bean Awards presentation. I should get something on the site about the same time.

    As for score sheets and their feedback... I think I'll have to post them out next week when I get back to work as there are so many sheets it would take me a month to scan them.

    Good luck all.
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    ...and the results are in for:

    Golden Bean 2016
    Champion Home Roasters



    Champion Espresso
    with a score of 63
    Brad Knauth
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    Champion Milk
    with a score of 66
    Nick Colebatch
    NickC




    Champion Filter
    with a score of 61
    Christo Perry
    coffee_cranks




    And with the highest combined scores in the 3 categories:

    Overall winner
    with a score of 152
    Christo Perry
    coffee_cranks



    Well done to everyone that entered, it was great to hear some of the judges reactions around the room when they tasted the coffees, many said they found entries in the home roaster section that eclipsed some of the commercial entries they judged the day prior.

    We will post the score sheets out this week to everyone so you can see the judges comments but attached is a PDF of the results, you can find your own entry using the BeanBay invoice number.

    The winner of each section will receive a $200 BeanBay credit.

    The overall winner will receive a Behmor Brazen Plus brewer and a special limited edition Reg Barber Tamper.

    HUGE thanks to the awesome Barista's, Judges, runners and the whole Golden Bean team for making, delivering, tasting and scoring 180 home roaster coffees all made to competition standards.

    Congrats to all who had a crack!
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    Thanks to Pathy from Elephant Hills for the live picture above!

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    Golden Bean - 2016
    Overall winner.... Long time CoffeeSnobs site sponsor...

    DiBella Coffee!

    It's their second win, amazing, worthwhile, justified.
    Great people and a great team.
    Well done!
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    Well done to all the entrants and congratulations to the winners! A big round of applause to all the participants!


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    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016

    Congrats to the winners!

    Hip hip and hooray for Andy. Massive effort and so great to see the home roasting section going strong.

    Be great to hear some roast details from the winners if they are willing to share some of their notes. I would be interested to see espresso / milk profile roast details.
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    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016

    Congrats to all and thanks Andy for helping us enter and posting the results. I'm off work all next week. If I can lend a hand at the snobbery to send out the results let me know.
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    congrats coffe_cranks Christo , well done , you have worked hard for the result !!

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    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2016

    I believe congrats are in order for Snobs too :-)

    Gold Medal Pour over Filter. CS Ardi B. Excellent work.

    Di Bella have smashed it at the awards. So many. Congrats!

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    Thanks for that, I didn't know the results were posted.

    Yes, I might have to change the current description in BeanBay from: "Works well in milk, as a long black, as a short black and as a filter coffee"
    to something like: "...and works REALLY REALLY well as a filter coffee"


    Gold was a shock, more so after seeing some of the crazy coffees that were pulling medals before it was announced but I know the Sidamo Ardi is an amazing coffee that we drink at home and at work nearly every day out of the Brazen and have done for months so we know it well. We also scored a bronze medal in the Espresso category with the Ardi too. This bean rocks!
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    Thanks to all everyone for making this happen, especially Andy, it was a great concept to roast an unknown green bean for three different categories with only enough green beans for one practice roast that I profiled a couple of weeks prior. Would love to have been at the event over the past week looked like lots of fun. Congratulations to all the other winners.

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    Congratulations to all...especially you, Coffee_Cranks!

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    Congratulations to all in the competition. A special congratulations to Andy for the Pour over filter Gold, woohoo. Congrats to Coffee_cranks for the overall win. Special thank you to Andy and the Coffeesnobs crew, for the hard work involved and for the opportunity to be part of this great event. Well done guys.
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    Well I'm halfway home,a few more Sydney hours wait for the connecting flight. It's been another amazing golden bean week, great people and great coffee everyday.

    Thanks to coffee judge Emma who sat too close to me shuffling the home roaster score sheets this morning at the port Mac airport and offered to help, I can happily say that the 180 score sheets are collated and ready for posting tomorrow. It was a great use of wait time.

    So, expect judges feedback to vary from great to ummm errr lazy. It really is a little hit and miss and short of hitting them with a big stick it will always be a bit like this.

    If you got a very low score then I would expect they really didn't like it, as a rule they are all fair and can only judge what was put in front of them. If you did get a low score then the best way to improve is to use a wider range of people to try your roasts. If you only ever get feedback from family then they might all swing the same way.

    Try and hook up with another CS'r, maybe swap roasts of the same bean and give each other a score. The more you do these sorts of exercises the better your knowledge and you will develop a better understanding of what others expect to see in the cup. You can even send some beans too me if you get stuck, I dont have much spare time but I'm happy offer some tips if its one of our green beans and I know how I would roast it.

    One thing is for sure, low score are great motivation to improve.

    If you scored high then keep doing what you are doing!

    Of course and the end of the day, if you love what you are roasting then it doesn't really matter what the judges say.

    Well done all, it's always exciting to see these get judged as I know some of you will one day be commercial roasters and this is a great apprenticeship.

    Enjoy the journey!

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