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Thread: Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2017

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    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2017

    Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2017




    Available now in BeanBay: CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Green Coffee - Home Coffee Roaster Competition 2017

    Purchase the above as an entry into the 2017 Home Roaster Competition.


    After the huge success last year, again the Home Roaster category will use a "control bean". All entries will receive the same secret green bean, coffee bags and all postage paid for entry into 3 categories (Espresso, Latte, Filter).


    you will receive:


    1: 2.5kg of green beans
    2: 3 x entry bags with code numbers (these must be used)
    3: Freight to you.
    4: Express Post satchel to return your roasted coffee to us on the 9th Nov
    5: Freight to the Port Mac. competition.


    You will roast and return in the express post envelope:
    300g - Espresso
    300g - Cafe Latte
    300g - Filter


    The 2.5kg of green beans will produce about 2kg of coffee so you are sending in less than half as your entry.


    The beans will be judged anonymously by coffee industry professionals at the Golden Bean Roasting competition in Port Macquarie from the 21st to the 25th of November 2017 and the winners of each category will be announced on the night of the 25th.


    Entries need to be posted back on the 9th or 10th of November so they arrive here on the 13th and 14th to ensure they make it into the judging. You can enter more than once if you want. Any substitution beans will void all your entries. Late returns will not be judged. Zipper bags should be sticky-taped at the top if you can't heat seal the edge with an iron (use brown paper between the 100 degree iron and the bag). We will announce the secret beans on the 13th when entries are closed.


    As a Home Coffee Roaster competition, these must be roasted on a ready made roaster or home made contraption worth less than $2000. If you are roasting on something grander, please enter the commercial roasting competition or you can let us know prior and your results will be excluded from the overall and your coffee will still be blind judged. By entering you agree to sell your roaster to a fellow Coffee Snob for $2000 or less.


    Questions will be answered below.


    Have fun and good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    If you are roasting on something grander, please enter the commercial roasting competition instead. By entering you agree to sell your roaster to a fellow Coffee Snob for $2000 or less.
    Love it...

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Love it...

    Mal.
    A hypothetical scenario.

    John has been roasting for about 6 months, first with a popcorn popper then a behmor purchased from CS. He decided he wanted to get a small HOME drum roaster and emailed CS site sponsors.
    He had to choose between 2 models of Hottop roaster at $1800 and $2600. John ended up getting the top of the line home roaster and purchased some more green coffee from beanbay to learn on.

    John would like to get some outside feedback to see where he can improve, he thought he would be able to enter the home roasting competition with his new home roaster? John has no ABN and no idea about commercial coffee roasting. He certainly would not be willing to sell his new $2600 home roaster for $1500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve82 View Post
    A hypothetical scenario.

    John has been roasting for about 6 months, first with a popcorn popper then a behmor purchased from CS. He decided he wanted to get a small HOME drum roaster and emailed CS site sponsors.
    He had to choose between 2 models of Hottop roaster at $1800 and $2600. John ended up getting the top of the line home roaster and purchased some more green coffee from beanbay to learn on.

    John would like to get some outside feedback to see where he can improve, he thought he would be able to enter the home roasting competition with his new home roaster? John has no ABN and no idea about commercial coffee roasting. He certainly would not be willing to sell his new $2600 home roaster for $2000?
    It may not have been clear, but I think Andy meant that this rule applies to DIY home built roasters. So a highly specced rotisserie roaster or a rocquette or something like that. The Hottop is designed for home use so is acceptable and no one would be expected to sell it for $2000. I might be wrong, but I think that's what it's all about.

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    Okay, my bad. I didn't realise that the hottop was so darn expensive now. Last time I looked they were under $1500 so that's where the maximum figure came from.

    We still need a price cut-off so I've moved the $1500 limit to $2000
    (and edited all the above posts to save confusion of others reading it later)

    ...and yes, regardless of what you roast your competition entry on, you must be willing to sell it to another CoffeeSnob for $2000.

    Sadly, someone was always going to be unhappy with the rule change but for the majority of home roasters it makes it a more even competition. I'm sincerely sorry but we really are running a "Home Roaster" competition and for most of the planet I think a $2000 limit is at least 4 times what they want to spend on a hobby.

    Short of making everyone roast their control beans on a control popper I feel this is a fair rule.

    If "John" wants to enter just for feedback, he can let me know when he enters and we will exclude his score from the overall but still get the judges to try it blind along with all the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Okay, my bad. I didn't realise that the hottop was so darn expensive now.

    If "John" wants to enter just for feedback, he can let me know when he enters and we will exclude his score from the overall but still get the judges to try it blind along with all the others.
    Thanks for entertaining my "thought experiment" and the revise Andy, sounds more than fair and I am sure everyone really appreciates the effort involved.

    I have a fair idea what the winning coffee was roasted on last year, so can totally understand the need for a cutoff.

    Cheers
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    i entered the home comp last year with a $4000 ish second hand 1kg Gas roaster (i was well and truly only roasting for home!) but have entered the commercial comp this year as i now sell my coffee and thought it only fair!

    The rules seem totally fair to me, i did actually consider entering the commercial comp last year but assumed you would need an ABN which i didn't have at the time.

    Cant please everyone Andy but I'm sure most of the population (and I'm one of them) appreciate how much time you put in getting the home roasting comp up and running each year
    Last edited by Lukemc; 3 Weeks Ago at 09:10 AM. Reason: re read and thought my post could have been read as argumentative! it wasn't!

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    I'm roasting in a $10 secondhand bread maker on a dough setting, pointing a heat gun under the lid.

    I will happily accept $1500 let alone $2000. PM me with offers.


    And if anyone thinks they shouldn't go in this competition because there's no way you could do any good - I got 4th in the espresso section last year. With a bread maker. And a heat gun.
    You really need to enter this competition. It is an awesome way to learn.
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    Ooooooooo - just received my secret bean this morning.

    If anyone is running a book on what the bean is, my early money is on an Ethiopian this year.
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    The last thing I want is 37 pages of legalese terms and conditions so we need to rely on a few rules and people's honesty.

    It's fun competition and an awesome chance to have your coffee blind tasted by industry professionals in a full competition environment.

    Personally, I find the biggest benefit to entering the Golden Bean is that once a year I really focus on the entry and can experiment way more than I do in day to day roasting. This will often result in a totally different take on a bean and I will often then use what I taught myself in other roasts for the year ahead. I've done pretty well in competitions but it's what I learnt in the process that's the real prize.

    The control bean is another ripper, CS'rs are going to get some stunning results with this bean.

    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickR View Post
    I'm roasting in a $10 secondhand bread maker on a dough setting, pointing a heat gun under the lid.

    I will happily accept $1500 let alone $2000. PM me with offers.


    And if anyone thinks they shouldn't go in this competition because there's no way you could do any good - I got 4th in the espresso section last year. With a bread maker. And a heat gun.
    You really need to enter this competition. It is an awesome way to learn.
    Exactly!

    I have always said "coffee roasting is just heat and agitation, you could roast in a rubbish bin with a blow torch if you get those right"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Exactly!

    I have always said "coffee roasting is just heat and agitation, you could roast in a rubbish bin with a blow torch if you get those right"
    Some would have us believe a degree in alchemy is needed to successfully roast coffee.
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    Hey ya all. Have just met with the crew at Peak coffee here in Port Macquarie (great coffee). Was told about the Golden Bean from there. Signed up that afternoon and have just received my secret beans. I'm fairly new to roasting but love experimenting with the Behmor 1600 + ( bought from CS). I'm willing to give this this a crack or first crack (excuse the pun). See you all in Port Macquarie in November.
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    First practice roast!! Took off a bit (smaller than usual amount of beans) so pulled early.

    IMG_3204.jpg

    Colour is so hard to gauge from photos, not quite as much variation as a Sidamo but I'll stick with my first guess.
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    I reckon they're Central American, wait and see

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    I was very uncertain after the roast. Roasted, they look more like big fat central americans, I agree. And look at the chaff - they'll be big-bodied.

    But green and in the bag, the size variation was the main reason for Ethiopian as my first guess.

    Love it, can't wait to try them in a couple of days.
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