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    Quote Originally Posted by 66535E596D715D54545757320 link=1268471227/51#51 date=1274985254
    The Kony-e really has taken off. Seems that by the time each shipment arrives, its sold out
    Im not really surprised by that Chris. They truly are a superb grinder and good for life.... Where grinders are concerned, Ive definitely reached the upgradeitis terminus..... 8-) ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4964606C610D0 link=1268471227/53#53 date=1275034966
    Ive definitely reached the upgradeitis terminus

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    ITS HERE *:D

    Sorry about the iphone pic, I will take better ones later.

    Thanks once again to Chris for great service as always and keeping me informed all of the way through the delivery process.


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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 75766565727B170 link=1268471227/55#55 date=1275115070
    ITS HERE *:D

    Sorry about the iphone pic, I will take better ones later.

    Thanks once again to Chris for great service as always and keeping me informed all of the way through the delivery process.
    8-) Congrats barrel and enjoy!

    Thanks once again for your support....

    You can change your signature now ;)

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    barrel
    congrats..

    ... even so it looks so good - similar set up to mine.
    Not sure which I enjoy the most - drinking the coffee or grinding the beans.
    I get a kick every time I use the Kony-e. *hope you do too.

    congrats again

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    Hey hey, looks great *Barrel :)

    Its amazing to see sales of these take off. But its to be expected for what they give in the cup.

    Enjoy the Kony and hopefully you get a chance to post your experiences n any tips as you settle in together.


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    Thanks guys,

    I am heading out to a function tonight so I wont have a good play until tomorrow.

    I have removed the finger guard and the mesh from across the chute. No real clumping issues that I can see without the mesh in place.

    For the way I use the grinder, which is to make 2 or 3 cups in the morning and then again in the evening, having the mesh out means I dont have to waste as many beans clearing the old grinds.

    I currently have the 2 cup button set for 11 seconds and top up from there I as I know this will change as the burrs bed in. I am aiming for around 18 grams.

    I will set the single cup to a few seconds to clear out the old grinds as I only use a double basket at home.

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    barrel

    I am very interested in how you have prepared the Kony. We all look forward to updates.

    At present (after 500 - shots) 6.25.secs gives me 18gms in a 21gm basket which is well clear of the Giotto screen. But all grinders are different.
    I do a manual flush rather than a single shot to clear the grinds as the counter does not count this. I had to get the PF and basket from Coffee Parts.

    Have fun

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    Congrats Barrel. You getting yours before I get mine makes me want to move to Melbourne. The waiting game with couriers continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6F7E6662726A0B0 link=1268471227/42#42 date=1274145927
    Second: I would really like to remove the anti-static mesh at the end of the grind mechanism shute that holds back the grinds.It seems to me that with out this mesh the fresh grounds would go straight into the hopper/doser and and more to the point straight into my PF - and into the cup (Very HWA).I would have totally fresh grinds everytime.

    Hey David,

    Give us an update. Did you remove the mesh screen? If you did, has it made any difference?

    JB.

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 111D14141717111A13011700520 link=1268471227/61#61 date=1275128117
    Congrats Barrel. You getting yours before I get mine makes me want to move to Melbourne. The waiting game with couriers continues. *
    Keep your fingers crossed for no further delays Brett,

    Last week the ever reliable freight company driver "delivered" an overnight shipment to Dennis on tuesday (according to their online system). The shipment, sent Monday actually arrived on Thursday afternoon after complaints from both of us. ::)

    It had been sitting in the back of the guys truck for a couple of days- for no particular reason >:(

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    Not what I needed to hear Chris ;) I have everything crossed though.

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    JB
    I will pm re mesh
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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Perhaps this thread would be better used for questions about grinders rather than grinder sales.

    If anyone wants info on BNZ MD-74 Conicals or Gino Rossi MC conicals, I have both - feel free to PM anytime.

    Im now having second thoughts about selling the MC as its doing such a great job with the Tanzania Blackburn Estate Shades of September. I guess I have the ugly triplets

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 14393833293429245D0 link=1268471227/66#66 date=1275203485
    I guess I have the ugly triplets
    Dont know about that mate.... At the end of the day, its what in the cup that counts and the MCs and BNZs certainly have the runs on the board in these stakes....

    Quote Originally Posted by 14393833293429245D0 link=1268471227/66#66 date=1275203485
    Perhaps this thread would be better used for questions about grinders rather than grinder sales.
    Yep, agree.....

    Its understandable that prospective owners are going to be excited with the prospect of their new grinders imminent arrival and its always great to read about that but perhaps direct sales posts are better posted in more appropriate threads.... ::)

    Thanks,
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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 4B66676C766B767B020 link=1268471227/63#63 date=1275203485
    Perhaps this thread would be better used for questions about grinders rather than grinder sales.
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B66676C766B767B020 link=1268471227/63#63 date=1275203485
    If anyone wants info on BNZ MD-74 Conicals or Gino Rossi MC conicals, I have both - feel free to PM anytime. ......Im now having second thoughts about selling the MC ....
    All posts which might be possibly be interpreted as in any way sales related have been removed from the thread....Except the above one that is clearly not sales related...::)

    My apologies for being enthiusiastic about my personal grinder. I think its great and clearly, others do as well.

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Today I picked up my Black *Kony-E from Cuppacoffee (Dennis), thank you to Den and Chris (from Talk Coffee ) for all of their effort in this transaction. Despite me demonstrating impatient and ungraceful behaviour at times they showed me patience and gracefulness throughout the transaction. So thanks for putting up with me during the waiting period. Most of all thanks for getting me a great grinder at a great price.

    To anyone thinking about taking the plunge to a large conical I would recommend it. I have run a little coffee through it to start letting the burrs run in and managed to pull a few shots to drink throughout this process. Already I am noticing the quality of shots improve from the Mini I had, and that was a step-up from the Ibertial Challenge I started with. There is a distinct difference in mouthfeel. I ran some home roasted Yirg Cabey through and it was so buttery.

    Like others have offered before me, if you are interested in asking questions about the kony-e feel free to ask me as well. Mal and others let me bounce questions off them when I was thinking about making the purchase, so thanks to you too.

    Below is a pic to prove the purchase (if my bench had have been cleaner I would have shown the beast towering over my Expobar).


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    You just grabbed that pic off the net Brett........ :D

    Well done mate, wish i could have one :(

    PS notice no one is responding to your post, its because we are all jealous and dislike you a lot now ;D

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    NICE upgrade Brett.
    are more and more folks going crazy buying big-butt conical grinders in the pursuit of goodness? I know I am...Waiting aint fun.
    i am grinderless and have had some 43robustafloorsweepings to make do. it hurts so bad

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    I am glad you received you grinder Brett. My display says 56 on it now since Saturday! I only drink from double baskets though so I have only made half that many coffees.

    My grind time has come down from 12 seconds to 9.5 at the moment, so dont forget to factor this in while you are setting it up.

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    Congrats....

    Im at 1100+ and at circa 7 sec now. Hope you enjoy it Brett :)

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    Congrats - many time over

    I am at 550 and at around 6.25 secs - It all sort of relative.

    You will be so amazed with your Kony-e (Black wow!)
    Mine goes from strength to strength producing amazing coffee.

    big step - great step

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    Thanks for all the congrats.

    Mine is grinding a double somewhere in the the 9s at the moment. I have put about a kilo of coffee through it this afternoon (not constantly as I obeyed the 20s 30s rule and then some), just to dial it in (was at the recommendation of someone I trust on these things).

    Best thing to report so far is spouse approval. Upon watching me grind: "wow, just wow... it counts it out and everything... now I can see why it was so expensive."

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    Great stuff Guys.... :)

    While we all enjoy using the Kony, I believe that any of the Big Conicals allow their owners to enjoy the same sorts of benefits described above. The only reason I went with the Kony-E D/less over something else was due solely to the User Interface - Im gradually and continually losing dexterity and strength in my hands so the very simple and user-friendly nature of the Mazzer interface pushed it over the line ahead of anything else.

    I would have been equally happy with any other commercial grade Big Conical if the User Interface issue didnt matter. All that being said though, I do love the beastie.... 8-)

    Mal.

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    My Kony-E arrived yesterday in Brisbane via Chris. Its wicked looking, and overshadows all my other gear. Partner reckons she now needs the kitchen remodelled to cater for it. [smiley=rolleyes.gif]

    Bought a Kilo of cheap beans from the supermarket to run through and season it, but found that setting up the grind for those, bore no real resemblance to the grind needed for my own roast/blend, so still struggling to get it right.

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    I suppose I can claim membership to this group... we were aiming to get a Kony-e for our roastery but our supplier had run out so offered us a (much cheaper) San Remo conical instead. Same burr size as the Kony (63mm, right?). The model is SR60K - its not electronic, but that feature would probably be overkill for the roastery.

    I must admit I was a bit dubious about it - San Remo is not a brand Ive heard a lot about (though they make a fine pasta! :P) - but Ive been quite impressed with it. The week before it arrived we repaired my evilbay grinder, an old Compak K7 (74mm flat burr), and were enjoying the speed and quality of that grinder... But the conical is just as fast (despite the RPM being so slow we thought something must have been wrong with it!) and seems to eke out a little more flavour from our beans. [Were still experimenting with blends, so its not the best environment for direct comparisons at the moment!]

    Anyone else know anything about the San Remo SR60K?

    Cheers
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    Gday Stuart.... :)

    Pretty sure San Remo grinders are rebadged Macap grinders of one sort or another. Does it look something like the "MXK" in the Grinders section.....http://www.macap.it/english/prodotti.asp?cat=1

    They actually make an even larger one than this with 75mm Conical Burrs.... :o

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    Just received the Kony-e (black) from Chris this week. What an excellent piece of engineering. Its solid and purposeful looking, and quite a stunning bit of industrial design. The timed cooling fan was a surprise. But the quality of shots coming out of this thing was just a whole new level for me. Easily compared with some of the best coffees Ive experienced so far.
    Thanks to Chris for sourcing this increasingly hard to get piece of kit, and keeping me informed all through the process.
    Cheers,
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    Congrats
    A great machine
    Your comments are spot on
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    Hey Mal,

    Doesnt look like the MXK or any of the Macap grinders on that page, but it does seem to match the specifications of the MXK in terms of burr size and RPM (63mm conical burrs @ 350 RPM).

    If they are the same grinder (in different bodies), that gives me great confidence in their build quality and performance! Its certainly been a pleasure to use.

    Cheers
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    Gday Stuart... :)

    Twas going back a couple or more years since I managed to have a close look at one so they may be producing custom cases for San Remo now. Either way mate, its a high quality grinder so should do an excellent job and last for years.... 8-)

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    One of the great difficulties with this thread is that any thing that is written can be interpreted as bragging - which is not very nice. *I guess most of the large conical owners dont have much to say - and I can understand this.
    Occasional truth will out -
    In the last few days I have been able to make coffee that is as good as one of our best coffee places over here. *The only thing missing has been the ambience/atmosphere of the retail space which is why we go back each morning (after the gym and before we wake up). *Of course I cheat at home by using their beans - straight out of their hopper (no under the counter stuff!).
    The interesting part I have found is that the Giotto has its own special taste, vaguely present since I first bought it (nicely pimped by Chris). *The coffee now has all the best flavours with a giotto touch. *It different from a Synesso Hydra but very acceptable. *The major difference in my history of coffee making is the Kony-e. I know others with other grinders do well.
    It has stopped the urgent necessity for mods and upgraditis. *I did have to consider setting it up for very,very low volume personal use. *That done it is joy all the way.


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    Just joined this club
    With the addition of a BNZ MD74
    [Pictured here next to the Mazzer Major]

    I took off the fitted tamper from the front of the doser hopper

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 63474E4E4D4D7763475B4547280 link=1268471227/82#82 date=1276313611
    I took off the fitted tamper from the front of the hopper
    Which on its own weighs more than some entire grinders...I had a laugh

    Congrats KK!

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    Congrats KK, you will have to let us know how it compares with the major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25040F0F0812610 link=1268471227/83#83 date=1276323810
    Quote Originally Posted by 63474E4E4D4D7763475B4547280 link=1268471227/82#82 date=1276313611
    I took off the fitted tamper from the front of the doser hopper
    Which on its own weighs more than some entire grinders...I had a laugh

    Congrats KK!

    I have also invented a step-less mod for the BNZ
    No drilling & completely reversible

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Congrats on the new baby Mate sure is a great looking Grinder :) The two of them together side by side very impressive ;)..

    Cheers Gra..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5E7A737370704A5E7A66787A150 link=1268471227/82#82 date=1276313611
    Just joined this club

    Congratulations KK. It is an excellent grinder! :D






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    Quote Originally Posted by 07232A2A29291307233F21234C0 link=1268471227/85#85 date=1276327373
    I have also invented a step-less mod for the BNZ
    No drilling & completely reversible
    pics please and tell us more...
    congrats btw - i just mirrored your upgrade too

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    I only picked it up at about 8.00 am this morning
    Gave it a clean, that it did not need
    Invented a step-less solution, and had it dialled in after 1 shot

    Quote Originally Posted by 427764050 link=1268471227/86#86 date=1276329653
    Congrats on the new baby Mate sure is a great looking Grinder :) The two of them together side by side very impressive ;)..

    Cheers Gra.. *
    The BNZ seems to give a little less fruit and more chocolate, caramel taste so far and thats my wifes observation

    Quote Originally Posted by 776A6E6B6060050 link=1268471227/88#88 date=1276332670
    pics please and tell us more...
    congrats btw - i just mirrored your upgrade too

    aaron *
    All in good time young fella * ;D
    I just completed the drawing, but will need a tidy up

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    looking forward kk :D
    so far ive removed the auto cutout mechanism with some help from craig at 9bar espresso, opening up the doser which has become ample space for distribution and levelling before tamping.

    ill put my pics up soon too.

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    Good one KK, lovely grinder mate.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    Didnt think you could hold out for too much longer.... ;D

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    Add another one to the list. Picked up a Kony-E on the weekend :D

    Thanks Chris @ Talk Coffee.

    Chris, I took full responsibility when explaining to the wife mate.... but I might have added that you made the decision a little too easy for me :P

    I explained how I valiantly fought off your advances, but even the best of us can only hold out for so long.

    Her response was "yeah righto.....just make me a coffee"



    Heres a pic of the setup now


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    Nice setup Caffeine_Fiend 8-)

    Hope you are tasting a difference ;)

    Enjoy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42777A7D49557970707373160 link=1268471227/93#93 date=1278893485
    Nice setup Caffeine_Fiend *8-)

    Hope you are tasting a difference ;)

    Enjoy....

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    Thanks mate. Still dialing it in and playing, but already seeing/tasting the difference :)

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    Caffeine_Fiend

    Welcome
    Congrats
    Great pic
    Awesome Combination

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    Thanks dumiya.

    Its a fair step up from the Anfim Milano it replaced to be sure. A much better match with the Giotto

    Caff.

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Quote Originally Posted by 77535A5A59596377534F51533C0 link=1268471227/89#89 date=1276340405
    All in good time young fella
    I just completed the drawing, but will need a tidy up

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    hey KK
    any more info on ur stepless mod????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5E43474249492C0 link=1268471227/97#97 date=1281509092
    hey KK
    any more info on ur stepless mod????

    aaron
    Sorry Aaron I have been very very busy

    If you have any questions fire away

    Drawing uploaded ;)

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    My BNZ has been begging me to be made stepless. Im assuming that the tool steel peice just fits in between the collar and creates the tension needed for the collar not to slip during operaiton?

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