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    Quote Originally Posted by 67656961616F6875060 link=1268471227/99#99 date=1281591047
    My BNZ has been begging me to be made stepless. Im assuming that the tool steel peice just fits in between the collar and creates the tension needed for the collar not to slip during operaiton?
    It replaces the current arrangement of the stepped adjuster

    This is how its done
    1] Remove the *current adjuster
    2] Copy the same stile & Exclude the lock pin ^

    Make the small plate a little longer and add a right angle bend

    Drill in centre and add a thread for the locking screw

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    hey cheers KK
    could u also (please pretty please) show us a pic of it in real life?
    thanks heaps
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    fraid a pic can say a thousand words.

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    im not planning on doing a stepless mod just yet. im having serious issues with the top burr carrier. it moves around a heck of a lot whilst grinding.
    it moves from left to right and also i can sort of lift/tilt up on side.
    im thinking of applying some teflon tape to secure it better but figuring something here is real wrong....


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    Quote Originally Posted by 796460656E6E0B0 link=1268471227/101#101 date=1281595363
    hey cheers KK
    could u also (please pretty please) show us a pic of it in real life?
    thanks heaps
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6A68646C6C6265780B0 link=1268471227/102#102 date=1281603411
    fraid a pic can say a thousand words.
    I prefer drawings as I can get the whole picture ::)

    Havent taken a photo yet sorry

    The home made version is currently at the engineers to see if they can make one out of brass or S/Steel

    So I am currently using the original stepped version adjuster

    If anyone wants one I can order them
    It should cost around $40 to get machined ect

    Quote Originally Posted by 796460656E6E0B0 link=1268471227/103#103 date=1281607698
    im not planning on doing a stepless mod just yet. im having serious issues with the top burr carrier. it moves around a heck of a lot whilst grinding.
    it moves from left to right and also i can sort of lift/tilt up on side.
    im thinking of applying some teflon tape to secure it better but figuring something here is real wrong....
    My grinder is rock solid on the adjusting collar

    For your problem I think you are on the right track with the Teflon tape mod to see how it goes

    KK




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    yeah kk it has certainly helped a lot but still concerned that it was a prob in the first instance.
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by 574A4E4B4040250 link=1268471227/105#105 date=1281677339
    yeah kk it has certainly helped a lot but still concerned that it was a prob in the first instance.
    cheers
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    The thread is your problem
    Brass is soft and the threads are very fine
    A previous repair may have had a negative influence or consequence

    If you know of another unit close by, just to test my theory by exchanging the top bur carrier and see what results from it

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    Another Kony-e upgrade here. WOW!!! Havent got into it too much yet, but very impressive. Very happy with the ease of use, lack of mess / waste and the quality of grind. Opened up the flavour spectrum of my coffee to another level.

    Thanks to Chris and Dennis (and of course to my wife, Julie, for organising it for me for my birthday - how lucky am I?! :D).

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    Congrats Greg what a great surprise to get it as a birthday pressie.

    Speaking of birthdays, my Kony-e turns 1 next Sunday. Might throw it a party ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5D687F7D504D1A0 link=1268471227/107#107 date=1286317939
    Another Kony-e upgrade here. WOW!!! Havent got into it too much yet, but very impressive. Very happy with the ease of use, lack of mess / waste and the quality of grind. Opened up the flavour spectrum of my coffee to another level.

    Thanks to Chris and Dennis (and of course to my wife, Julie, for organising it for me for my birthday - how lucky am I?! *:D).

    Greg
    Welcome to the club Greg
    And happy birthday
    May your cup be always full of great tasting coffee ;)

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    Happy birthday - many happy returns (and many happy shots by the sound of it)

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    Happy Birthday Greg.

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    Excellent stuff Greg, congratulations mate.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    Hey TG.... Youll have to get one of your big conicals on the bench and fired up one of these days... ;)

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    Yes I will but things keep getting in the way.

    Soon...soon.

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    Thanks, guys. The bday was actually over a month ago. I got a brochure / spec sheet on the day and the real thing when the ship finally docked ;). The wait was definitely worth it. Lifes good. 8-)

    Coincidentally, I had a dble ristretto Kenyan Peaberry from a Kony-e at First Pour Brisbane on the weekend (plus a dble ris piccolo) - sensational.

    Come on TG, getting the conicals (or at least one of them) into gear will change your life (well, almost).

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    Going to Melbourne tomorrow for a few days.
    Im sure theres a few conicals in the places Ill be visiting.
    That will have to do for now.

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    Hi everyone,

    Ive recently managed to get a 2nd hand BNZ conical but am finding that there is alot of grind retention in the burr exit chamber. Ive had to remove the top component of the doser (a metal flap that has a switch for the autofill) so that i can manually brush out the excess grinds. Do any other BNZ owners have this issue and if so how do you deal with it?

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    hey wan

    ive taken out the whole auto cutout mechanism.
    a quick wire clean-up thanks to craig at 9bar
    brushes just about clean as...
    easy mod to do with great results i reckon

    aaron




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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    My BNZ is stock standard
    It has a hand like flicker (see photo)

    It clears the coffee path as you operate the doser
    I do however only use the amount of beans I require per cup and run the grind chamber dry

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    kk i think wan wants to know how to clean the exit chute...
    the spider/monkey is more useful for cafes that dont grind on demand, and have dosers full of old grinds...

    kk how do u access your chute with the flap in place? do u pulse out old grinds before pulling a shot?

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    Hi guys,

    Thanks for the pics.

    Ive done exactly the same mod as aaron above as a considerable amount of grinds were getting stuck in the burr exit chute. I was hoping that there was a more automatic mod where i wouldnt have to manually brush out the chute after every grind :)

    KK, my doser also has that hand like flicker but it doesnt clear out the exit chute (up the top of the doser where the paddle is) which is where the grinds build up in my grinder. I think ur grinder would also get alot of buildup behind the auto cutout mechanism as well??

    I was finding that every now and then my pours were very quick and Id get no crema, this was due to the fact that some of the really stale grinds would eventually be pushed out into the doser :o

    Thanks again guys,
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6C7175707B7B1E0 link=1268471227/119#119 date=1286682092
    kk how do u access your chute with the flap in place? do u pulse out old grinds before pulling a shot?

    aaron
    Yes I pulse

    The only way to do it properly is to vacuum that area
    One could use a small hand held vacuum that is commonly used to clean computers and keyboards

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    Robur e is great, but still inconsistent. Compak k10 was great for the money. Lets hope the dose consistency and grind retention of the fresh make it the grinder to have

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    I had a quick play with the K10 fresh yesterday. I have high hopes for this grinder. For me, my K10 WBC paired with an electronic timer is better. I will continue playing with the grinder.

    What I didnt like was:

    hopper design
    fork design - same as elektra nino and malkonig

    Really clean chute. The cleanest Ive seen was the Elektra.

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    Hi all,

    Finially its my turn. I recieved my Mazzer Robur manual today :). It is an ex cafe grinder. Will do more testing tomorrow :)

    One thing that I really wanna change is the on/off switch. Cos Ive an external grinder timer, I wanna change the current one to a two pole switch. Does anyone know how to do it?

    Thanks,

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    Re: Large Conical Grinder Users Group...

    I am proud to introduce my lovely new Mazzer Kony-E courtesy of Talk Coffee. Chris was amazingly generous with his time and support and cannot recommend him highly enough.
    I was lucky enough to pick up the grinder from the quirky Dennis at CuppaCoffee - always a pleasure to deal with Dennis!

    I wont comment much on the grind quality as Ive only just received it, but the first shots were mind-blowing!* :D

    A big thanks to Chris and Dennis!

    (please excuse the poor iPhone pic)


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    Welcome to the club!

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    Congrats mate.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    These are fantastic grinders, no doubt about it. Youll get many, many years of superb quality coffee from her. 8-)

    Had to reduce the image size above though mate; nearly a 1.5MB file is just a smidge too big. If you can keep em down to 100KB or less itll make it much easier (and quicker) to manage... ;)

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    Many thanks for the plug bjeck :)

    For those on my Kony waiting list, this one was a funny story. Seems both bjeck and I had eyes for a new one going cheap on you know where. Id set a bid to grab it and realised that bjeck was interested via a tweet. My bid won it and only just. I felt he needed to have the opportunity to grab it.

    Long story, but he paid me, I paid the bloke, a courier plus freight north and another Kony-e joins CS.

    Enjoy it bjeck. Theyre a killer grinder and and you got yours for an absolute steal. Wish I could grab another 10 at that price! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7954505C513D0 link=1268471227/127#127 date=1301147175
    Congrats mate.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    These are fantastic grinders, no doubt about it. Youll get many, many years of superb quality coffee from her. 8-)

    Had to reduce the image size above though mate; nearly a 1.5MB file is just a smidge too big. If you can keep em down to 100KB or less itll make it much easier (and quicker) to manage... ;)

    Mal.
    Thanks Mal! Already receiving some wonderful gustatory delights! (apologies about the image)

    Quote Originally Posted by 695C5156627E525B5B58583D0 link=1268471227/128#128 date=1301172847
    Many thanks for the plug bjeck :)

    For those on my Kony waiting list, this one was a funny story. Seems both bjeck and I had eyes for a new one going cheap on you know where. Id set a bid to grab it and realised that bjeck was interested via a tweet. My bid won it and only just. I felt he needed to have the opportunity to grab it.

    Long story, but he paid me, I paid the bloke, a courier plus freight north and another Kony-e joins CS.

    Enjoy it bjeck. Theyre a killer grinder and and you got yours for an absolute steal. Wish I could grab another 10 at that price! ;)

    Chris
    And that is a story of amazing generosity. Once again, thank you Chris.

    Now to start what will be very many coffees today ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63565B5C68745851515252370 link=1268471227/128#128 date=1301172847
    For those on my Kony waiting list
    Quote Originally Posted by 555D52545C0603370 link=1268471227/125#125 date=1301136332
    I was lucky enough to pick up the grinder from the quirky Dennis at CuppaCoffee
    You may recall it was hidden behind some other boxes; you can work out why.

    Am sure you will enjoy it mate! :)

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    Having had a serious dose of upgradeitus, I have made the move from the Sunbeam EMO450 to the Mazzer Minni to my lovely (new to me) BNZ MD74* ;D

    Stoked, stumbled across this at a price I couldnt refuse - cant believe the difference in the cup - surprisingly, especially with the de-caf....

    Anyway - super happy, just wondering if anyone knows if the 68mm burrs on the MD74 are interchangeable or replaceable with any of the other more common 68mm conicals?



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    i have to say that i absolutelt love my bnz too.
    wish it was doserless and i think ive seen hazel delosreyes has modded hers. theres just a fair amount of coffee in the chute that needs brushing out. apart from that it is absolutely awesome i reckon. enjoy the shots.

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    hey also from the pic it looks like without the hopper lid you have the same clearance as me....ie, like a few mm. talk about perfect fit eh?

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    Beaut grinders, the BNZ Conical.... 8-)

    Congrats mate. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    If youre not already a black coffee drinker, I can highly recommend you start giving it a try; with as many brew methods as you have stashed away in the cupboards too, not just as espresso. It will really open your eyes (and taste-buds) to a myriad of new flavours you didnt realise existed.

    Its like starting all over again. Have fun.... ;) ;D

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    Thanks fellas,
    Yeah I cant believe my luck finding this beauty!

    I have switched to mostly black not Mal, an enjoying the whole new flavour profile that seems to have developed!

    And Roknee - I couldnt even fit the lid on the hopper there! So tight, luckily I have a bench on the other side of the kitchen with no cupboard above it, although I did need to re-inforce the top a fair bit to take the Machine without bowing over time!

    Really enjoying it! 8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5E5552525659524451583D0 link=1268471227/131#131 date=1321492937
    Having had a serious dose of upgradeitus, I have made the move from the Sunbeam EMO450 to the Mazzer Minni to my lovely (new to me) BNZ MD74* ;D

    Stoked, stumbled across this at a price I couldnt refuse - cant believe the difference in the cup - surprisingly, especially with the de-caf....

    Anyway - super happy, just wondering if anyone knows if the 68mm burrs on the MD74 are interchangeable or replaceable with any of the other more common 68mm conicals?

    Yep the BNZ MD74 is a keeper
    I actually prefer a doser model these days
    Ohh welcome to the club :D

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    Okay, Im becoming more and more of a prospective owner of a large conical, and wanted to fire a few questions.

    With my current flat burr grinder I like to only put in the beans I am using and run the grinder empty. Can I continue this way with a large conical if I dont go for an e? I realise the timer is put out if you dont load up the hopper on an e, but is the grind noticeably inferior? or is it bad on the grinder if I only load what Im using?

    Which brings me to the next question - should I go all out for a Kony-e (which will take quite a bit more saving), or should I save money and go for a different large conical and a doser? Ive used both doser and doserless in the past and dont mind either - however the neat and clean system of the Mazzer e dosing cone looks like something to envy. I guess you could rephrase the question as, how much more money do you think the cone and timer are worth on the Mazzer e?

    I guess one danger I see is if I go for something other than the Kony-e, will I still be left with upgraditis later, just because of the added features? Or will the quality of the grind be enough to get over the envy of the cone and timer (cone is more attractive feature to me than timer)? Do you guys with the non Mazzer es have any desire to have one, or are you content with knowing the grind is similar quality and not care about the other features?

    Be subjective! I want opinions regardless of whether they may not end up matching my opinion. Hopefully this isnt a thread hijack - it does mention prospective owners and it still involves talking about your large conical, but if it is seen as a hijack feel free to remove or move elsewhere, mods.

    (I have 4-5 double shots a day, starting with a milk drink then moving into espresso/ristrettos as the day moves on. I like to change beans at will.)

    Thanks all.

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    As I noted above I now prefer a doser type grinder but thats me

    This allows me to drop in the beans to grind and collect into the doser, while I flush and prepare the machine for making coffee

    QLD can be a static hazard although not as bad with the conical, and the doser helps with this as well

    Quote Originally Posted by 0233243D3C3B303D2B520 link=1268471227/137#137 date=1322030362
    With my current flat burr grinder I like to only put in the beans I am using and run the grinder empty. Can I continue this way with a large conical
    Yes I do this and have done so on all my grinders

    Quote Originally Posted by 0233243D3C3B303D2B520 link=1268471227/137#137 date=1322030362
    I have 4-5 double shots a day, starting with a milk drink then moving into espresso/ristrettos as the day moves on. I like to change beans at will.
    I also like to change beans and have 3 to 4 coffees a day
    I also like to have Greek/Turkish coffee as well as Syphon

    So in my particular circumstance a stepped grinder suits me better for quick change of grind type

    So your equipment should reflect your personal Fit For Purpose

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    I reckon that with your low coffee usage, (typical of many of us at home), you are better discarding a hopper altogether and weighing your dose and tipping it straight in on top of the grinder. (i then just place a small plate over the top to prevent any popcorning beans popping out.)

    The biggest challenge you face is clearing the grinds path on a commercial grinder, there are really 2 choices, discard the first few grams of grind with significant wastage, or using the method above and carefully clearing all the grinds from the path - usually with a small brush and jogging the grinder.

    I guess the timed grinder like the Kony-E lends itself to the discard and waste method, but the second method is more suited to non-timed grinders and the home user that wants to change coffees as you mention.

    Its next to pointless having an expensive commercial conical burr grinder if you are going to fill your PF with stale coffee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35333E273F332B520 link=1268471227/139#139 date=1322033241
    I guess the timed grinder like the Kony-E lends itself to the discard and waste method, but the second method is more suited to non-timed grinders and the home user that wants to change coffees as you mention.
    The Kony-E lends itself to simple and thorough cleaning-out of the grind path using a small artists brush - takes but a few seconds at the end of a session or if you are going to swap beans and dont want an unplanned blend... ;)

    Im not only a beans miser (hate wasting great coffee) but I also enjoy sampling different beans/blends quite regularly. The amount I waste in a session would be only 1.0-1.5g at the most. This probably holds true for other similar grinders such as the Macap MD7.... Dont write off a Doserless unless you have personally experienced idiosyncrasies, that you cant live with.

    Even though the Mazzer is not stepped, I personally prefer a stepped grinder for the same reasons mentioned above. Even so, of the various infinitely variable adjustment systems out there, the Mazzer is not too inconvenient when switching around from one grind setting and back again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50565B425A564E370 link=1268471227/139#139 date=1322033241
    you are better discarding a hopper altogether and weighing your dose and tipping it straight in on top of the grinder
    Yes, thats what Im doing now on my flat burr (except skip weighing - I know where to fill to in the throat to have minimal waste at the end).
    Is there a reversible, non warranty voiding method of running the Kony E without the hopper? (I know the Kony E will not run without the hopper - I also know there must be a way to get around that but can I get around it without voiding warranty?)

    Quote Originally Posted by 735E5A565B370 link=1268471227/140#140 date=1322050319
    The Kony-E lends itself to simple and thorough cleaning-out of the grind path using a small artists brush - takes but a few seconds at the end of a session or if you are going to swap beans and dont want an unplanned blend...
    Excellent - again thats what I do now. Ive become quite proficient getting around my grinder with an artists brush after each session.


    As for stepped/stepless - I was planning on stepless. However Ive been running a stepped grinder for years now and had no problems with doing so, so if one came up cheap I guess Id jump on it. I was after stepless for the change, and dont need to be changing my grind drastically as I mainly drink espesso.

    So its sounding good - I can continue my practices on a large conical.

    However, whats the opinion on grabbing something considerably cheaper than the Kony-E with regards to getting upgraditis later. Will I envy the features of the Kony E, or will they fade into the background because I already have the quality grind?

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    [QUOTE=4372657C7D7A717C6A130 link=1268471227/141#141 date=1322083630][QUOTE=50565B425A564E370 link=1268471227/139#139 date=1322033241]

    Is there a reversible, non warranty voiding method of running the Kony E without the hopper? (I know the Kony E will not run without the hopper - I also know there must be a way to get around that but can I get around it without voiding warranty?)

    Quote Originally Posted by 735E5A565B370 link=1268471227/140#140 date=1322050319
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    I dont have a Kony e but do have a Robur e and I think they run the same way. Running with hopper only is a safety feature. You will note that there is a slot behind the hopper shute that a tab from the hopper fits in. Just put in a paddle pop stick or better yet if you are friendly with your GP get a wooden tongue depresser they are twice as wide. Put it in just enough that the light on your electronic display comes on and the grinder will work.

    But there is a good reason why Mazzer put in this safety feature - the large conicals like the Kony & Robur have an auger arrangement so if you get your fingers in there without a hopper - very serious damage results. So use without a hopper with extreme caution.

    But then again Mazzer say these grinders are not suitable for home use dont they!!! :(

    Look I know all the arguments about single dosing and I only make about 2 cups a day in the morning weekdays and maybe double that on some weekends. A Robur holds 3 doses of coffee approx in the chute. I am a bean miser too especially at $25 for 500g. So technically I drink 1-2 day old ground beans everyday - but I must say they still taste great! ;D

    I just concentrate on enjoying the cup.

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    BTW I have compared the taste to fresh ground like after I empty the hopper to change to a new batch of coffee and Im not good enough to taste any difference. So ignorance is bliss in this case.

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    Is there a reversible, non warranty voiding method of running the Kony E without the hopper?
    YES! I do it every day... The black collar has two tabs that lock the clear hopper in place. CAREFULLY prying them up allows the clear hopper to be removed from the collar. That way the collar alone can be reattached to the body defeating the safety switch as well as retaining the "gate" in the collar which allows very easy single dosing of beans.

    Check my website - espresso my espresso dot com - (no spaces - cant post anything resembling a url evidently here... Ughhh) Its #17 in the "How-To" pages - I have an article on modifying the Kony and other Mazzer commercial grinders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 444146405A4F5B5D2E0 link=1268471227/142#142 date=1322089999
    So technically I drink 1-2 day old ground beans everyday - but I must say they still taste great! ....

    .....BTW I have compared the taste to fresh ground like after I empty the hopper to change to a new batch of coffee and Im not good enough to taste any difference. So ignorance is bliss in this case.
    Wow, thats pretty confronting! So you cant tell the difference between stale coffee grounds up to 2 days old, yet you use a high end commercial, conical burr grinder!

    If you cant taste the difference between stale and fresh coffee I would really doubt you can taste the difference between a $200 flat burr grinder and a $3000 commercial grinder - thats a lot of money to spend on something else!!

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    Thanks all for the advice and info.

    Randy G - I really like that way of getting around the hopper - keeping the collar and gate is great.

    Im still stuck between saving for longer for a Kony E or saving heaps on another big conical and just going without that lovely dosing cone and timer. Hmmmm...what to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 484E435A424E562F0 link=1268471227/144#144 date=1322101185
    Wow, thats pretty confronting! So you cant tell the difference between stale coffee grounds up to 2 days old, yet you use a high end commercial, conical burr grinder!

    If you cant taste the difference between stale and fresh coffee I would really doubt you can taste the difference between a $200 flat burr grinder and a $3000 commercial grinder - thats a lot of money to spend on something else!!
    Galumay, your logic is flawed. Because I use a $3000 Grinder instead of a $200 POS is why I cant taste the difference!!! ;D

    The grounds dont smell stale, they dont taste stale. I just want to enjoy my coffee not be a slave to it.

    To each their own and Im just starting on my coffee journey anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 787D7A7C66736761120 link=1268471227/146#146 date=1322167093
    Galumay, your logic is flawed. Because I use a $3000 Grinder instead of a $200 POS is why I cant taste the difference!!! ;D

    The grounds dont smell stale, they dont taste stale. I just want to enjoy my coffee not be a slave to it.

    To each their own and Im just starting on my coffee journey anyway.

    Hey, mates. Dont feed the trolls....

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    Just because old men dont drive porsches like they should be driven, doesnt mean they should be driving hyundais and spend their money elsewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 252027213B2E3A3C4F0 link=1268471227/146#146 date=1322167093
    Galumay, your logic is flawed. Because I use a $3000 Grinder instead of a $200 POS is why I cant taste the difference!!!
    I dont think my logic is flawed at all. I am sure any number of experienced and respected coffee lovers will agree that no amount of money spent on any grinder will hide the difference in taste between stale and fresh coffee grinds!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 1D2E212B361008614F0 link=1268471227/147#147 date=1322169978
    Hey, mates. Dont feed the trolls....
    Careful with the personal attacks there mate, I will choose not to take offence this time! ;) I dont think discussing Johns practice of making coffee with stale grinds constitutes trolling.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3B262222362D4F0 link=1268471227/148#148 date=1322191262
    Just because old men dont drive porsches like they should be driven, doesnt mean they should be driving hyundais and spend their money elsewhere...
    Fair point!

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