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    Pharos grinder owners

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    Hi all,

    Im thinking about getting a 64mm conical burr grinder, and would love to get the Pharos.. Ive read most of the reviews and forums discussing this grinder.

    Im wondering if any of you have any issues with it, and if you had your time again, would you buy it still???

    Thanks for your thoughts

    Wonder


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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Id certainly buy one again.

    The new adjustment locking nuts are a must, and I do like it better after having added footing material to make it 6-footed instead of 3. This is very easy to do, and youll learn why as soon as you try and stabilise it on a counter while grinding.

    I use it all the time and only go the Macap M4D when there is a lot of coffee to grind. Even then some guests are prepared to "grind their own".

    Greg
    ps--if you are close you are welcome to come up and have a grind.

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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Like Greg I would certainly buy one again, I dont grind with it on the bench, preferring to sit it on my hip so the base rubber mat thingy is something i dont use. I agree about the new adjustment nuts (which the new models come with.)

    Its interesting that Greg and i both own Izzo Pompeii Levers - a machine that really does allow you to detect the nuances of different grinders - and both of us favour the Pharos.

    I think the main point for me is you get the flavour profile of a $3000 commercial, conical burr grinder without the significant disadvantages of trying to ensure fresh grinds through the grind path for the very light use of a home environment. (as well as the disadvantage of spending about 10 times as much!!)

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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Quote Originally Posted by 716968626374060 link=1332238602/0#0 date=1332238602
    Im wondering if any of you have any issues with it
    I dont like it.

    For the price point I wish I did but I dont

    Quote Originally Posted by 716968626374060 link=1332238602/0#0 date=1332238602
    and if you had your time again, would you buy it still???
    No.

    The most fun Ive had with it is handing it to others in the coffee industry and then wait for them to start swearing at it.

    In another thread I wrote:

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A555F423B0 link=1301746558/111#111 date=1318259992
    As it stands I would suggest that CSrs waited for this grinder to finish development before buying one or at least borrow one to try it first. After 4 years of development the grinder has had some radical changes in the last 3 months since its release, most of which really should have happened prior.

    I dont blame OE for that, I suspect that their beta testers were not crytical enough to list the things that needed changing before it went to market.
    Grinding between your knees, under your arm or on your hip might work but a better design (simple changes like Gregs more feet and maybe a handle) would mean you could grind on the bench.

    Quote Originally Posted by 417463615169746B676A62060 link=1332238602/1#1 date=1332244078
    ps--if you are close you are welcome to come up and have a grind.
    Do that Wonder!

    Its a great offer and Greg isnt too far away (hes a nice guy too). That way you can see it working well and have a play before you purchase one.

    Manual grinders are not for everyone, for me it will live on the shelf at Snobbery.

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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    +1 for buying this grinder again, maybe a gift for my parents.
    It certainly look a snob item but for small space taken, grind quality, quietness , and robustness outweighs IMHO the effort to grind and the cost.
    If it has an issue, it would be my problem because preparing back to back shots make my arms become sore. :P

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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Quote Originally Posted by 545F56455B5E5207060607370 link=1332238602/4#4 date=1332252336
    If it has an issue, it would be my problem because preparing back to back shots make my arms become sore.*
    More coffee=bigger stronger arms.
    Just do it!

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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Quote Originally Posted by 12273032023A2738343931550 link=1332238602/5#5 date=1332758897
    More coffee=bigger stronger arms.
    I wish!! One thing I do notice is the radical effect of roast length on grinding resistance, if I go a bit into 2nd crack its just about a one finger job, if i end a roast early for a 3rd wave style light roast it does feel like a workout for the forearms!


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    Re: Pharos grinder owners

    Quote Originally Posted by 67616C756D6179000 link=1332238602/6#6 date=1332800526
    One thing I do notice is the radical effect of roast length on grinding resistance, if I go a bit into 2nd crack its just about a one finger job, if i end a roast early for a 3rd wave style light roast it does feel like a workout for the forearms!
    Agreed!
    And grinding seems to get harder as the beans age. Even a bit of moisture in the beans makes them tough rather than brittle.

    Greg

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    I've had a Pharos for a while now and absolutely love the grind that comes out of it but...what's the best way to actually get the grinds into a basket?

    I'm currently grinding into a bowl then pouring the grind into a funnel and then into the basket. Double (triple?) handling for sure but the only way I don't end up with a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    I've had a Pharos for a while now and absolutely love the grind that comes out of it but...what's the best way to actually get the grinds into a basket?

    I'm currently grinding into a bowl then pouring the grind into a funnel and then into the basket. Double (triple?) handling for sure but the only way I don't end up with a mess.
    The pharos is a fantastic grinder

    I have my OE dosing funnel sitting in my basket and I just hold the pharos above the basket and tap and shake the grinds straight into the dosing funnel and basket,

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    That dosing funnel looks great and will definitely improve the functionality of the grinder.

    Putting an order in today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexG View Post
    That dosing funnel looks great and will definitely improve the functionality of the grinder.

    Putting an order in today.
    Where do you buy a pharos? Do you have to email OE?

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    i recently just bought some dosing tools from them, and all you need to do is to order it through their online store... took about 2 weeks for my order to arrive...
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    I am pretty sure you cant get it from their online store. The Lido is available but I have never seen a link for buying the Pharos. I could just be blind though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htb View Post
    I am pretty sure you cant get it from their online store. The Lido is available but I have never seen a link for buying the Pharos. I could just be blind though.
    Sometimes OE run short of a part or parts for the Lido or Pharos, so the buy option is taken off their online store, it usually becomes available again within a week or so, you just need to keep checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadan View Post
    Sometimes OE run short of a part or parts for the Lido or Pharos, so the buy option is taken off their online store, it usually becomes available again within a week or so, you just need to keep checking.
    I had a look last night and only the lido was in stock. They must be reading this site because this morning they are stock minus the one I just purchased.

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    I have had the pharos for a bit over a week. Absolutely fantastic grinder.
    I am surprised they are not more popular.
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