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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Hi Richard, grind speed is approx 2.5 grams per second. Compare to Macap M4D (2.5 grams per second) and Mazzer Mini E (1.5 grams per second).
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    Hey Paul,

    I'm not sure if those figures are correct. As I understand it the M4D grinds a double in about 10 seconds, so ~1.5g/second. I have the Quamar M80e and that grinds a double in ~8 seconds, so probably 2g/second. I would have thought the Q50p/e would be slower.

    Richard - I think the electronic versions are worth the investment. I'm finding the ability to reproducibly dose the right amount every time has made it easier to have consistency with the shots I produce. It has also made it a lot easier for my wife. Coupled with a dosing funnel, it really is a matter of pushing a button and letting it do its thing.

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    Some things to keep in mind:
    1. Your double may well differ from that of another user by a fair margin
    2. g/sec...fraught with danger as grind setting is the biggest influence. As such, unless you're dosing x grams into the same basket, used with the same machine to produce an identical pour rate, we're probably all wasting time...

    FWIW, on our gear I am currently using nakeds/triples a heap. The M4D kicks the Mazzer, K3P and M2M for speed. It's also quicker than a SJ-E. My gut tells me that it (M4D) may well be a little quicker than the Fausto as well. I do like the Fausto though and one has displaced my M2M as a backup to my old faithful Kony-E at home. E5OD is due this week and we'll be cracking a box open to see how it shapes up in the wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveD View Post
    Hey Paul,

    I'm not sure if those figures are correct. As I understand it the M4D grinds a double in about 10 seconds, so ~1.5g/second. I have the Quamar M80e and that grinds a double in ~8 seconds, so probably 2g/second. I would have thought the Q50p/e would be slower.

    Richard - I think the electronic versions are worth the investment. I'm finding the ability to reproducibly dose the right amount every time has made it easier to have consistency with the shots I produce. It has also made it a lot easier for my wife. Coupled with a dosing funnel, it really is a matter of pushing a button and letting it do its thing.

    Cheers, Dave
    Thanks Dave

    Do you find the funnel limits the mess "somewhat" by pointing directly down into the basket? Mess has been my enemy for years so with the next grinder if I can get something that limits mess as a bonus feature I'll be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardC View Post
    Thanks Dave

    Do you find the funnel limits the mess "somewhat" by pointing directly down into the basket? Mess has been my enemy for years so with the next grinder if I can get something that limits mess as a bonus feature I'll be happy.
    Hi Richard,

    Yes the funnel definitely reduces the mess. It's just the way I'm using it that I prefer to use a dosing funnel as well to reduce the mess - this way I can grind the entire timed dose in one go without having to grind half, tap to settle, then grind again.

    If you haven't seen a dosing funnel before you can check it out here: http://www.talkcoffee.com.au/shop/oe...dosing-funnel/

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveD View Post
    Hi Richard,

    Yes the funnel definitely reduces the mess. It's just the way I'm using it that I prefer to use a dosing funnel as well to reduce the mess - this way I can grind the entire timed dose in one go without having to grind half, tap to settle, then grind again.

    If you haven't seen a dosing funnel before you can check it out here: OE Stainless Steel 58mm Dosing Funnel

    Cheers,

    Dave
    Ahhh....I think some confusion. Yes, I've see that funnel and I think it's a great tool but the funnel I was referring is the one attached to the M80e. Does this make the grind delivery to the basket cleaner with minimal mess, ie, straight down on a 90 deg drop opposed to most other grinders that appear to spew out on a near 45 deg angle. I would have though the 90 deg drop would be cleaner.

    Though like you I like to do the grind in one hit so the basket funnel is certainly on the list!
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    Hi Richard,

    No problem I did understand, just didn't express myself clearly. Yes, the grinder funnel is good being at 90 degrees. I definitely find it less messy compared to my previous grinder which was a compak k3 push and had the spout at a 45 degree angle.

    Cheers, Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveD View Post
    Hi Richard,

    No problem I did understand, just didn't express myself clearly. Yes, the grinder funnel is good being at 90 degrees. I definitely find it less messy compared to my previous grinder which was a compak k3 push and had the spout at a 45 degree angle.

    Cheers, Dave
    Hey Dave

    Just getting back to the caffeine world from my day job!

    Great to hear about the funnel and this makes perfect sense to me.

    By co-incidence got received an email from the previous importer of these grinders, he states he dropped them as a brand as there were many issues with electronics, touch pads, capacitors etc (don't know when or how long ago).

    How long have you had yours and have you experienced any issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardC View Post
    Hey Dave

    Just getting back to the caffeine world from my day job!

    Great to hear about the funnel and this makes perfect sense to me.

    By co-incidence got received an email from the previous importer of these grinders, he states he dropped them as a brand as there were many issues with electronics, touch pads, capacitors etc (don't know when or how long ago).

    How long have you had yours and have you experienced any issues?
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    Hi Richard,

    I've only had mine for a month, so I can't really comment. I'd have to say though that in a home environment I doubt you would have a problem. I imagine a cart or cafe would really hammer them. In general I think it's a well built grinder, and I'm really loving it. I would definitely recommend that people consider a quamar grinder.

    Cheers, Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Just be wary of mis-information Richard. Sounds like someone is bagging the brand for business reasons. These wouldn't be running in every Cafe2U coffee cart, and in Cafe's all over Europe if they had these issues.
    .....and yes, I sell them. I don't have business reasons to push them though as I sell several brands. If there were any issues I obviously wouldn't be selling them.
    Always wary Paul, machines at this end simply woundn't survive the market. I suspect it may be more related to a relationship breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveD View Post
    Hi Richard,

    I've only had mine for a month, so I can't really comment. I'd have to say though that in a home environment I doubt you would have a problem. I imagine a cart or cafe would really hammer them. In general I think it's a well built grinder, and I'm really loving it. I would definitely recommend that people consider a quamar grinder.

    Cheers, Dave
    I agree. This grinder has all the characteristics I'm looking for, thanks for the review!

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    I'd like to do a more comprehensive review in a few months time after I've had more experience with it. If you're in Melbourne I would try and visit K_Bean to get some hands on experience with the grinders and see if you like them.
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    I purchased a Q50 push (thanks b), I am impressed. It's replaced a sunbeam 480.
    The Quamar is a solid unit, very quiet and grinds fast. I've only had it a week but am pleased with the results so far. Will need to put it through its paces over time to really test the unit. It is an attractive piece of machinery. It disposes coffee much cleaner than the sunbeam which is a big bonus, less clumping than the sunbeam too. I don't use the timer.
    The size is suitable for my small kitchen but it packs a punch. (Has the wife's approval)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveD View Post
    I'd like to do a more comprehensive review in a few months time after I've had more experience with it. If you're in Melbourne I would try and visit K_Bean to get some hands on experience with the grinders and see if you like them.
    It's been a while since I was last in hot, sun drenched Melbourne, not much chance of me visiting anytime soon. I'm fairly convinced it's the grinder I'll be buying.

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    Found this video on YouTube. Quamar grinder (I suspect it was M80E) was used in the Australia Latte Art Competition.

    https://youtu.be/vVelzQshqIs
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    Quote Originally Posted by kopiku View Post
    Found this video on YouTube. Quamar grinder (I suspect it was M80E) was used in the Australia Latte Art Competition.

    https://youtu.be/vVelzQshqIs
    Yeah I was going to mention this video as well. I actually think it's the big conical - Q13e.

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    Our shed Compak E10 stands 500mm tall with a 290g gourmet hopper (30mm taller than a Mazzer mini). Yep- a little broader in the beam, but not out of proportion against pretty much any HX, DB or leva. We sell 5 of them into homes for every one to a cafe due to form factor and performance. Looks mint as well.
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    Can any Quamar owners give an update on how they are getting on with their Q50S? Seriously looking at one of these as an upgrade to an ageing Rocky. Cheers.

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    Hi Sponsors, count me in for one of these. Waiting on the best price from sponsors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricco View Post
    Can any Quamar owners give an update on how they are getting on with their Q50S? Seriously looking at one of these as an upgrade to an ageing Rocky. Cheers.
    Hey Ricco,

    Only had one for a few days - so its early days yet.

    Can't complain to be honest - grind is consistent easy to use and the matt black on the bench is splendid.

    Any questions about it?

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    K_Bean_Coffee has the best prices for these. Trust me, I spent A LOT of time looking and in the end, K_Bean_Coffee came to the table. The only problem was he ran out white ones *cries*
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    haha I was considering it. Just doesn't go with the kitchen, says the wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertye112 View Post
    haha I was considering it. Just doesn't go with the kitchen, says the wife.
    well, you know the obvious answer to that....
    ... Change the kitchen !
    ......or the wife !

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    Hey guys, just thought I'd chime in with some thoughts as I've bought a Q50P recently.

    Really impressive grinder for the price! Feels like a massive step up from the sunbeam plastic grinder I was using. Very solid build quality, and much more quiet than I thought it would be. Also very easy to keep my workstation clean with the funnel. I knew it would make a decent improvement on what I was using, but I was blown away by the difference it makes, even when running it through the EM6910. It's very quiet, really consistent, and perfect for my situation, where I'm only pulling a double shot at the start of the day. Overall, I'd say it's a hugely worthwhile investment for someone upgrading from their first setup. And now I can use the cheap sunbeam for course grinds for pour over, so no more jumping back and forward between settings!

    Now all I need to do is save up enough to upgrade my machine...
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    I'm wanting to grind finer and the burs aren't touching but I've run out of thread and can't go any further. Is there a shim I can buy or something else I can do to bring the burs closer together so I can back the thread off and have some adjustment available?

    I don't think it's the beans because they were brought from a sponsor and are a week old. I was getting great coffee with the beans and grinder settings a week ago but the only adjustment I have is to increase the timer.

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    Just to answer the question you're not asking but is implied (that is, your shots are running fast based off your second paragraph)...
    How do you handle your dose? Is it only via the timer? Make sure it's consistent as dose is _in_some_ways_ more important than fineness. As you fine up the grind, it's throughput decreases, and you have to increase the timer.
    Secondly, you'll find that if you fill your hopper up more, as opposed to single dosing, the grind will fine up a little due to the downward pressure - however the trade off is that beans stale much faster.. sooo all that to say, if you normally fill your hopper, but now you're getting to the end of your beans, and you're underdosing, you might be experiencing a bit of a perfect storm of staleness, grind inconsistency and under dosing.

    This is all an illustration based on assumption that everything is going wrong (which is not likely) - but take this as an encouragement to look at every parameter, not just grind fineness.

    Lastly, it could be that your grinder doesn't go fine enough, or it could be that the burrs have been out, and put back in in such a way that although they can go finer, the fineness mechanism hasn't given you the room. I'm not sure of much of the innards of the Quamars.

    But I'd be looking at bean staleness and dose first. (Eg. Try some new beans).
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    Love my Quamar Q50p.very good value. I'm thinking of getting another one to run decafe or single origin. It's a pity they dont do a Q80p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Quamar grinders have a restrictor (screw) in their adjustment collar. They are there to stop Cafe staff from taking the grind too fine in a Cafe environment. You don't need it there. Remove it and I'm sure your problem will be solved.
    I've removed the screw but it doesn't make a difference because I'm already at the end of the thread. I'll keep working on my technique and adjusting the timer.

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    Cool

    After 7 years of good service from my Compak have upgraded to a q13 Coni E . Early days but very impressed with speed, noise level and lack of mess.
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    Can you fit your compak hopper on it? That thing is a giant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    Can you fit your compak hopper on it? That thing is a giant!
    no chance . The throat of compak hopper is around 45mm , while Quamars is 65mm .

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    The Quamar Q13 is a serious grinder Larry. Nice choice.
    As the others have said, you might want a smaller hopper for home though. That's HUGE
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    Thanks Paul ,

    I sourced a 250gm hopper from the Quamar distributor in Sydney

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    G'day Larry...

    Which one did you buy mate?
    The Tech.Detail on the website indicates that the default is 71mm Flat Burrs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    G'day Larry...

    Which one did you buy mate?
    The Tech.Detail on the website indicates that the default is 71mm Flat Burrs...

    Mal.

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    The Q13E comes in a Coni and not-coni variant I think, Mal. 75mm Flat, or 71mm Conical. See this pdf for specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    The Q13E comes in a Coni and not-coni variant I think, Mal. 75mm Flat, or 71mm Conical. See this pdf for specs.
    Mine has the 71mm conical burrs , which i think is the same set as the Mazzer Robur
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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    The Q13E comes in a Coni and not-coni variant I think, Mal. 75mm Flat, or 71mm Conical. See this pdf for specs.
    Ah, I see...

    Looks like some 'proof reading' went amiss on their webpage...

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    Yeah it's kind of a case of "welcome to 90% of manufacturers webpages"... paying the intern and/or web design firm copywriter and not really checking over the content.
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    Intrigued by the the grinder I went looking and read:

    The Quamar Q13E Comical is a large commercial grinder with conical burrs.

    Great grinder for the price and it can make you laugh too
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    The new Quamar Q50 Push (now with timer) is just in. I did a quick bench test. Here's my brief (and crude) review:
    Pros
    - Consistent grind performance.
    - Mazzer Mini E style anti-static funnel for low mess & clump free grind.
    - Fast grind speed (2.5 g/s compared to 1.5 g/s for the Mazzer Mini E)
    - The new model has a timer on the LHS.
    - Solid build & exceptional finish.
    - stepped adjustment. Not a big deal as the steps are very close.

    Picked up a Q50P from K Bean a few days ago, thank you Paul. Its certainly a brilliantly made Italian grinder with consistent grind performance due to a very simple design of the top assembly (there's not much that can go wrong or cause the burrs to unalign).

    The information in this thread influenced my purchasing decision so I feel its worthwhile I do provide honest and critical feedback for anyone else who may be looking to purchase


    -The grind speed I am obtaining is not 2.5g/ s. Grinding 2 day old medium roast beans is taking 16 seconds to fill about 20g, which is about 1.25g / second. I will need to test with other beans to see if this is a variable but I doubt its causing the grind to take twice as long.

    -The Q50P new "new" model actually has the timer removed. I phoned around a few other distributors to try and clarify whether the timer was standard or not and no one really knew. Some have them and some don't. I contacted Quamar directly and they replied letting me know that there is "option" for a timer. So i'm not sure if its obsolete or still available. But its worth double checking with the retailer before purchasing if its something you want.

    -Whilst the range of grind (fine > course) is enough, the adjustment increments are disappointingly large. Its not actually because the adjustment dial is stepped, its just due to the design of the machine - a small turn of the top assembly equates to a large increase / decrease in grind size. To compensate for lack of grind adjustment i am required to continuously make small modifications to dosage.

    If you are already weighing your dosage after grinding then this may not be too much of a burden, but if you are someone who likes to keep tamp and dose consistent and only adjust grind size then you are going to have a very difficult time. To put it into perspective, 1 step adjustment on the Q50 covers the range of about 4 steps on my Breville Smart Grinder. The timer on the Q50P (although unstepped) is not precise enough to allow fine tuning of dosage, so its actually mostly useless. =[
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post

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    Certainly looking good, but it doesn't demonstrate the change in flow if you were to change the steps. Perhaps a good idea for another video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Re the steps
    I have been using the Q50P at home for several months now and have never had a need to go mid-step. The steps were a concern when I first trailed the Q50P and I didn't put it onto my bench until I had tested that. ...so I can say hand on heart that when your workflow is consistent the Q50P steps are spaced close enough to control the pour. I demo this during training time and time again
    Although i'm sure my workflow is terrible, I am convinced it is quite consistent. I pulled 12 sink shots Friday night trying to get the pour right with only adjusting the steps. Once I pick up some better scales this week (to be sure my dose is not changing) i'll report back (if you are standing hand on heart with this one I dont want to jump the gun )
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    Paul stralto is using the Q50P with a BDB, so the steps might actually be an issue for him and not for you as the BDB can be quite fussy

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Cool. Scales are an excellent idea. Try to find a set with 0.1 deg C resolution.
    Hhhhmmmmm.....I think you meant a set with 0.1g resolution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stralto View Post
    Although i'm sure my workflow is terrible, I am convinced it is quite consistent. I pulled 12 sink shots Friday night trying to get the pour right with only adjusting the steps. Once I pick up some better scales this week (to be sure my dose is not changing) i'll report back (if you are standing hand on heart with this one I dont want to jump the gun )
    You absolutely need a scale that goes to 0.1g. Do not bother with 1g - you need to 0.1g increments to make meaningful assessments.

    Stralto, are you getting consistent shots from the same step? eg Step X shots are consistent at step X when you move back and forward between X and other steps?

    If yes you are getting repeatable shot at a given step, it suggests the steps are more likely the issue.

    If no you are not getting a repeatable type of shot at a given step, it suggests you've got an issue elsewhere in your process (volume in basket, distribution and tamping).

    Also, are you using a naked pf?
    This really helps to enable you to evaluate whether you are dosing, distributing and tamping properly as you can see whether the shot is running consistently across the basket.

    On my Mazzer, once I am roughly dialled in on shots I'm only looking at movements in a 1-2cm band to hit a spot I am happy with (it is infinite adjustment though - not stepped).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlMac View Post
    You absolutely need a scale that goes to 0.1g. Do not bother with 1g - you need to 0.1g increments to make meaningful assessments.

    Stralto, are you getting consistent shots from the same step? eg Step X shots are consistent at step X when you move back and forward between X and other steps?

    If yes you are getting repeatable shot at a given step, it suggests the steps are more likely the issue.

    If no you are not getting a repeatable type of shot at a given step, it suggests you've got an issue elsewhere in your process (volume in basket, distribution and tamping).

    Also, are you using a naked pf?
    This really helps to enable you to evaluate whether you are dosing, distributing and tamping properly as you can see whether the shot is running consistently across the basket.

    On my Mazzer, once I am roughly dialled in on shots I'm only looking at movements in a 1-2cm band to hit a spot I am happy with (it is infinite adjustment though - not stepped).
    Great post, lots of good points there. And +1 regarding naked portafilter, has helped heaps in knowing what's going on with the shot, and where the issue lies distribution-wise.

    And ah I didn't realise the Q50P was stepped, but yeah curious to see how others find it (in terms of how much each step affects yield). I found with my Rocky, one step was enough to yield 10-15g extra output, or affect the flow about 10-15s differently... Yeah I know! I had to really hone in on changing dosing along with grind, but now have made it stepless until I upgrade soon.

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    Hey guys, I scored a Quamar Q50P recently and was just wanting to ask owners a few questions about good practices to adopt (and even owners of similar doserless grinders like Macap m2m, Baratza Sette, and others in this class/price-range).

    1) Do you guys fill the hopper with beans and dose by weight (then put beans away into one-way valve bag when done) or does anyone get good results with single dosing? Just not sure if better to have the weight of beans pressing down and whether single dosing leads to inconsistent grinds?

    2) Purging: how long do you guys purge to get back to getting a fresh dose? Or does anyone vacuum out the grinder in between doses (if that's even possible, I haven't received the grinder yet, but am used to vacuuming out my Rocky Doser Grinder chute and then chucking in 10 beans to purge through)

    3) Distribution with a doserless: how have others gotten the best results? Letting the whole dose drop straight into the centre, collapse and tamp; dose half, collapse then finish dose; move portafilter around while dosing?

    Am not used to a doserless so just wondering how to approach this exciting new venture

    Thanks heaps for any input big or small!

    Simon

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    I see a few Q13's on ebay that go new for less than $1k with flat burrs but can also run Mazzer conicals.... Has anyone experienced these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post
    Hey guys, I scored a Quamar Q50P recently and was just wanting to ask owners a few questions about good practices to adopt (and even owners of similar doserless grinders like Macap m2m, Baratza Sette, and others in this class/price-range).

    1) Do you guys fill the hopper with beans and dose by weight (then put beans away into one-way valve bag when done) or does anyone get good results with single dosing? Just not sure if better to have the weight of beans pressing down and whether single dosing leads to inconsistent grinds?

    2) Purging: how long do you guys purge to get back to getting a fresh dose? Or does anyone vacuum out the grinder in between doses (if that's even possible, I haven't received the grinder yet, but am used to vacuuming out my Rocky Doser Grinder chute and then chucking in 10 beans to purge through)

    3) Distribution with a doserless: how have others gotten the best results? Letting the whole dose drop straight into the centre, collapse and tamp; dose half, collapse then finish dose; move portafilter around while dosing?

    Am not used to a doserless so just wondering how to approach this exciting new venture

    Thanks heaps for any input big or small!

    Simon
    1) It takes about 40 seconds for an 18g single dose to completely finish grinding (due to the popping of beans around). Very rarely will the weight of the dose in equal the weight of the dose out as there is a little bit of grind retention but it varies (i can get 1 - 0.5 g above or below what i put in). Only this last weekend did I re-install the hopper and attempt to dose the traditional way. Unfortunately the hopper is quite big and so there is a lot of air and id imagine my beans will stale pretty quick. Grind time with beans in the hopper is 16 seconds give or take for 18grams.

    2) If i'm single dosing i purge 4 or 5 beans, otherwise if im using beans in the hopper i run the grinder for about a second. Its too difficult to vacuum because of the deflector plate but purging does the job well.

    3) I find the grinds dont shoot out of the funnel opening straight down (they fall backwards a bit) so you'll need to move the portafilter around when its running to ensure the grinds are distributed evenly (otherwise you'll get a mound to the back of your basket which will spill). I've noticed that the touch button (that activates the grind when you push the portafilter against it) sits a little far back so that when i slide the portafilter in, the centre of the basket does not sit under the centre of the bottom of the funnel and thus grinds pile up on the edge. If i move the portafilter back to get the grinds falling the centre then the switch disengages and the units stops. The work around is shaking and a little bit of creative angling .

    All in all, its a very simple but sturdy unit which seems to produce pretty consistent grinds.
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    Maybe I’m only half a coffee snob but I leave beans in the hopper, about 2 days, 3 days tops worth. My taste buds aren’t noticing any difference over that time FWIW I have the Sette 270w grinder and dose using the preprogrammed weight options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stralto View Post
    1) It takes about 40 seconds for an 18g single dose to completely finish grinding (due to the popping of beans around). Very rarely will the weight of the dose in equal the weight of the dose out as there is a little bit of grind retention but it varies (i can get 1 - 0.5 g above or below what i put in). Only this last weekend did I re-install the hopper and attempt to dose the traditional way. Unfortunately the hopper is quite big and so there is a lot of air and id imagine my beans will stale pretty quick. Grind time with beans in the hopper is 16 seconds give or take for 18grams.

    2) If i'm single dosing i purge 4 or 5 beans, otherwise if im using beans in the hopper i run the grinder for about a second. Its too difficult to vacuum because of the deflector plate but purging does the job well.

    3) I find the grinds dont shoot out of the funnel opening straight down (they fall backwards a bit) so you'll need to move the portafilter around when its running to ensure the grinds are distributed evenly (otherwise you'll get a mound to the back of your basket which will spill). I've noticed that the touch button (that activates the grind when you push the portafilter against it) sits a little far back so that when i slide the portafilter in, the centre of the basket does not sit under the centre of the bottom of the funnel and thus grinds pile up on the edge. If i move the portafilter back to get the grinds falling the centre then the switch disengages and the units stops. The work around is shaking and a little bit of creative angling .

    All in all, its a very simple but sturdy unit which seems to produce pretty consistent grinds.
    Ah thanks so much for that stralto appreciate it!!

    1) Ah ok fair enough, I'm probably thinking of filling the hopper just for the couple of hours that I'll be using it, then bag up the beans afterwards. I keep reading that having the weighted beans in the hopper tends to get more consistent grinds (like how grinders were designed to function, with a weight of beans in the hopper). Ah wow, quite a difference in speed!

    But other folk reading this feel free to comment on this, would love some clarification/confirmation of that.

    2) Ah that's awesome to hear, was worried about that (not losing sleep over it haha...), am prepared to vacuum, but if purging effectively removes hopefully all old grounds that's great.

    3) Ah that's disappointing... Thought it was more centred... I'll have a play around and see what I can do.. maybe even a magnet/attachment placed on the portafilter to extend it, so that the attachment would push the button, and the grinds would fall more in the centre? Will have a play when I get the grinder soon. That or the angling you mentioned.
    Or pushing button with a finger.. anyways!

    Thanks for the help stralto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crema_Lad View Post
    Maybe Iím only half a coffee snob but I leave beans in the hopper, about 2 days, 3 days tops worth. My taste buds arenít noticing any difference over that time FWIW I have the Sette 270w grinder and dose using the preprogrammed weight options.
    Ah I love that... very much respect that, and I'm finding more and more people doing that. Of course tests have been done etc etc, but if you're still loving the results, can't complain with that!

    I usually have more than one bean on the go at any time, so I may do a daily bean change anyways
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