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    Hi guys,

    So I recently purchased the Sette 270w. I absolutely love it!!
    My only issue is, when using a 20g Pesado basket and grinding 20g into it, the coffee piles up quite high out of the basket and continues up into the grinder shoot. When I remove the group handle some of the coffee is knocked out thus less than the ideal amount of coffee is left in the basket. Does this make sense??

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    I've found it helps to grind I two lots, ie for 20g, grind two 10g lots with knocking to portafilter inbetween grinds.
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    Yep as above. My PF is quite tall (cafelat) and I dose in two hits, either 2x 10.5g or 14+7g. Grind first one, remove, tap down once to settle, grind second and its all good.

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    I have 18,20 and 21g vst baskets so I go one size bigger. However I find the dark roasted beans have more volume compared to a medium roast.
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    I have received unit back - they replaced complete scale unit. They also gave me a $60 voucher to spend on beans - that was appreciated. I have been using it for about 10 days now and it is performing very well. I have noted others saying they have to dose twice to avoid overflow - I have found that as well. Still it is super fast and easy to set up. My only quibble is the spraying of grounds - I just hate wastage! Five Senses sent me a photo of a mod they are working on with Baratza which looks like a good upgrade to the adjustable portafilter hook, which is a weak point in my opinion.

    I have a SB 6910 and the shot improvement is quite noticeable over the EM440 grinder. I just need any excuse now to upgrade 6910 to some Elit/Profitec/ECM/Expobar model. I do like the quick heat up time of the SB, that and I leave it switched on most of the time.
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    Could you post the picture gordons? Intrigued

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsheat View Post
    Could you post the picture gordons? Intrigued
    Hi bsheat,

    Sorry about the late reply - just noted it.Attached images as requested. Note they are of a prototype mod being tested .
    IMG_2164.jpgimage1.jpg

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    Very cool! Thank you for posting.

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    baratza sette 270w - Thoughts buy guide

    Quote Originally Posted by gordons View Post
    Hi bsheat,

    Sorry about the late reply - just noted it.Attached images as requested. Note they are of a prototype mod being image1.jpg

    regards,
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    Great Gordon.

    Looks like it could a good mod. Be great if the full dose could be done in one go without stop/tap/dose again that some have mentioned.
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    So this piece bolts to the existing arms and provides arms from itself to rest the PF? Looks good. When is it coming out?

    Cheers
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    Hi Artman,

    I have no idea if it is being incorporated to future machines, although it does look like a good idea. Five Senses sent me the pics after I was talking to them about splatter/spillage of some grounds.

    If they don't come out with something like that or improvement to the porta filter hook then I guess some home design fun would be in order!

    Overall I am very happy with grinder so far. It is damn quick, although I only have experience of the sunbeam 440 and 480 grinders. The consistency of the grind seems to be impressive to me
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    Hi guys
    So I went from a Breville Dose Control Pro that didn't grind fine enough to the Eureka Atom and feel like I skipped this step
    From this huge thread I've figured
    -From my reading the scale ~~is a bit off but it is still consistent~~ Considered accurate within around 0.2g on a firm flat surface
    -People need to dose 10g twice to make 20g fit in the basket- although fluffy clump free grinds are arguably the best outcome
    -The portafilter holder sucks
    -It grinds superfast- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoxB8BiZfxg
    -Messy grind/ loud
    - 1 kg max per day (i use 16g a day so that's fine!)
    - A number of people have added shims for finer grinds (included in box)
    - Lots of DOA and errors, but people with bad experiences will post more than those with good
    - The Baratza rep said that the first batch were dodgy and did further development before releasing more
    - The longevity and durability is the only long standing question really, but we'll see, as it's only been in australia 6 months

    Should I be reconsidering? I don't think so.
    I feel as if I have gone from the cheapest burr grinder straight to commercial and missed this step which makes me sad. The Baratza is great for the price however I feel like these commercial grinders beat it in every repect, except grind retention. Which is one of the most important variables in making coffee at home.
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    I have a friend who was after a new grinder, for there price range i suggested the Sette 270w and its what they got. Having had it for a couple of weeks now and had the chance to play around with it a couple of times. as much as I like it and also came close to buying one. Im glad i went with the Eureka Zenith 65E. As much as i like the grind and pretty much clump free of the Sette I still much prefer the grind i get from the Eureka. I feel it looks a little plastic like and due to that makes it vibrate a little and loud when grinding. All this said there is a considerable price difference and for some that is the deciding factor, so for something that price that doesnt clump and gives a super fast grind. I can see why one would buy one.

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    Good reading. I'm expecting one of these to be my next upgrade and I see quality issues at the start but the more i read the more I can see that issues seem to be fixed up now.
    I like the idea of the 270 model with a separate scale though as the 270W model with scale inbuilt is packing in more tech and that means more risk of problems.I'm interested in thoughts from owners.
    It's plasticy but it seems to perform really well and seems like good value that's for sure.
    Not decided yet but leaning this way.
    aaaandreaaaaa
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    Mate, take a look at the Quamar Q50P at about the same price as the Sette 270W and it's a commercial grinder

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    Though a number of people on here have had issues with their Qamar grinders, seems to be a quality control thing because most people love them, just some are unusable.

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    That's what I see as well ninja. I think I'll go for the 270 though and weigh with scales.
    And coffeeman yes nice suggestion with the Quamar Q50P. That one is already on my short list
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    Being able to deliver an accurate weighed dose to 0.1 gram straight into the PF is very nice, that's one of the things that makes the 270W IMO.

    Cheers

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    baratza sette 270w - Thoughts buy guide

    Id thought issues with W (weight based) version had come and gone as per some previous discussion on here... but Ive had one CS supplier saying (within the last fortnight) to go with the base model 270 due to some bad experiences with the W.

    As always your mileage may vary.

    The low grind retention and fast grinding speed is still appealing on the 270 and also the new Sette 30.

    The 270W certainly removes one step for those weighing the dose. Just as long as the scale load cell functions accurately. Guess double weighing gives you an extra check and balance. Eyes another.

    Itd be useful to know some wider feedback and get an update from 5S as to what they are seeing in the wild since the last update mentioned here.

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    I have checked the weight dosed a few times out of curiosity, it is spot on and at worst 0.1g out (resolution of my scale).

    A handful of times it has started and stopped but its been less than 10 times aver the last few months. and always on a 5 gram dose setting.

    You can use the 270W in manual mode anyway.

    The grind is mega fluffy, centrally distributed and very fast. Its a small and compact unit too. Noise is the only real negative but at least the duration is minimised.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    I have checked the weight dosed a few times out of curiosity, it is spot on and at worst 0.1g out (resolution of my scale).s
    Getting accuracy of 0.1g is a marvel of technology. When i first heard of
    0.1 accuracy I though bull$&@ then read the same from multiple sources. Seems like the weighing tech hits the mark.

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    Well I was leaning towards the 27O but now I'm aiming higher (much). The Eureka Atom !!!
    Blown budget but that grinder looks like a dream. I'll stop posting and being painful and post pics when I actually decide and commit.
    Andreaaaaaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreaaaa View Post
    Well I was leaning towards the 27O but now I'm aiming higher (much). The Eureka Atom !!!
    Blown budget but that grinder looks like a dream. I'll stop posting and being painful and post pics when I actually decide and commit.
    Andreaaaaaa
    I actually have an atom I've used a handful of times for sale
    Pm me for details
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreaaaa View Post
    Well I was leaning towards the 27O but now I'm aiming higher (much). The Eureka Atom !!!
    Blown budget but that grinder looks like a dream.
    Did the same. Was leaning towards 270W but then a few things happened along the way / requirements changed and I ended up with the Atom. Solid, reliable and quiet. Still tempted by 270/270W for office scenario.

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    My 270W recently went back to base for warranty repair, it just decided to act erratically and would beep and freeze and the display would go a bit crazy. One failed repair later and it is in the process of getting replaced. It's a shame, apart from that it's been great.
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    Update I my 270W:

    1. Portafilter dosing need to dose in 2 parts else grounds spill over( I have a SB 6910) - still some spattering which is annoying. Occasionally grinder stops mid grind - this seems to be caused by portafilter moving if it isn't seated securely.

    2. I now grind into supplied container - this is much more reliable and has eliminated all the annoying grinds splatter. It does add a step in pouring into portafilter, but I think I save approximately one extra shot per 2kg - this suits my tightness gene!

    3. It is very accurate in grind weight and very quick compared to my old SB 480.

    4. The grind quality is excellent, consistent and fluffy compared to the 480 - I haven't used any other grinders so this is purely my view. It also is easy to adjust grind once the 2 collars are worked out.

    5. The improvement in consistency of shots from the 6910 is greatly improved - even though many CSs' have said a good grinder will make a huge difference it is still gratifying to experience it.

    End of update - merry Christmas all

    GordonS
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    Still fence sitting about this, have been following since before release and equally confused!

    Currently using a Macap MXA, weighing using Acaia scales and single dosing/grind-on-demand accordingly. Works fantastic, but grind retention is annoying as it's not doserless (brushing with a small brush each time to remove), and time consuming. This would ease my workflow, but is it a downgrade from a commercial macap used in a home environment for 2-4 milk based espresso per day? Hmmm.

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    Advice please Im very tempted by the 270 or 270W. Seems to be everything I want in a grinder (reliability still in question?).
    For 10 years now Ive used my Mazza Super Jolly. Fabulous grinder, but really designed for commercial use. And I both hate wastage and dislike retained ground coffee, so I developed a complicated ritual of measure, grind, brush and collect all the ground coffee, tidy, repeat. I do 1 to 3 portafilters a day usually. The Mazza is still grinding away, no problems or mechanical issues, lovely grind. Just a bit of a nuisance.
    Im pretty sure I can sell the Mazza and cover the price of a 270. Im certain I would prefer the grinding 'process' of a 270. I cant afford both. And still, I procrastinate.
    What would you do?

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    I was in a similar position when the 270 was first announced. I have a Rocky grinder and was looking to avoid the same situation of wasting grinds. The 270 was a very attractive proposition but early reliability issues made me cancel a pre-order.

    Then along came Knock with their KickStarter program for the Aergrind. Approximately $120 for a hand grinder! Impulse buy territory! I've had it for a couple of months now and am amazed at how easy it is to use and the quality of the grind. Zero retention, easy cleaning, step less adjustment, no grinds mess and quiet. It is very easy to grind - seems to have got easier with use. I grind about 20g and have a Lelit Mara. Looks weird having the little Aergrind alongside the Mara.

    I still have the Rocky sitting ready to go but tend to just use the Aergrind because of convenience. If I have guests then I make sure the Rocky is cleaned and ready to use for multiple coffees.

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    270W user since it first came out in Australia. Luckily for me I haven't had any issues with my machine and I couldn't be happier with the grind consistency, flavour and accuracy. It doesn't get the dose perfect but it's within 0.1g 90% of the time and the other times I just do a manual topup

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    Im liking my 270w.
    Still getting closer on dial in. Maybe the burs take a little while to settle, and my beans are aging maybe...


    Do we find the scaling is progressive? Ie- is 4i one step finer than 5a, or is there a small overlap?

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