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    Some initial thoughts...

    Great looking grinder on the bench. Easy to use / intuitive interface and touch pad.

    Love the quiet grinding. Really really quiet. So good :-)

    Love the light. Love the hands free. I might need to work slightly on stability of the PF. The dipped fork might add some extra grip.

    The fluffy grinds appear really quickly and quietly in the PF.

    Love the easy / quick change over to grinds bin for pour over if you want that sort of thing.

    Relatively mess free compared to other grinders.

    One downer on mine - I think I might need a shim kit or something as I'm at grind dial 1 and still getting gusher shots, so I'm not going to waste any more coffee at this point until I do some more troubleshooting/seek wisdom.

    [strike]I'll re-read some PMs but I think Wushoes may have had one with similar issue in his earlier Atom purchases. Edit: turned out to be something different I think[/strike]

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    Oh that's no fun matth3wh! Does it not go down past 1? I haven't tried.
    I did the first few coats of plasti-dip today and will probably do a couple more tomorrow. I took some photos and will try to show the process I took when I get a chance.
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    Hi Matt

    happy to be wrong but thought on the atom, like the rest of the eureka grinders, the numbers on the adjustment knob where simply a reference point and not a setting for lack of a better term. With my Mignon it was a case of slowly adjust finer till burr just touch (you'll a chirping noise if doing while running) then back off corser till find the grind your after. The ataom may be different by my Mignon was around half to a third of a turn back from burrs touching.
    would love to her people's thoughts on the atom so keep the reviews coming as really keen on this grinder just with it was better as single dosing.

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    Agree with Martin. Like most (all?) flat bur stepless grinders, the numbers are simply a reference point. The burs will touch if wound down too far, so no need for shims. Hopefully, Antony from Casa Espresso will confirm this.
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    Hi Mal. Yes all seems good now. Have been conversing with Matt via text just now. The numbers are as you said, just a reference to where you were before, not necessarily an indication of a grind setting
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    Thank you all! Very much appreciate appreciate all your input here on CS.

    And a big thank you to Antony - Casa Espresso - for helpful TXT advice as well. It has all made the difference and I'm getting some great shots. Espresso high! 8-D

    I don't want to dis the La San Marco (because I'll likely have it up for sale soon) but the Atom is smashing it!

    So yes, I ended up looping around the reference dial, past zero and ended up down around the 3 mark where I've been pulling some sweet sweet espresso shots.
    (so technically that still fits with the manual reference which said to expect 3.5 to 2.5 espresso... just not "which" specific 3.5 to 2.5)

    Of course I'm completed wired now on caffeine!

    I should have enough fineness left to push through some decaf beans as well for when my wife and friends call for the Decaf WOW.

    I just had to push through my mental barrier of zero and "listen" to what my fingers were telling me in terms of the grind fineness. It was a good exercise, as I could tell in the tamp dept after weighing out the shot that things weren't right in the fineness dept.

    I was just a little reluctant to mash burrs up against each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mb21 View Post
    simply a reference point and not a setting for lack of a better term. With my Mignon it was a case of slowly adjust finer till burr just touch (you'll a chirping noise if doing while running) then back off coarser. The Atom may be different by my Mignon was around half to a third of a turn back from burrs touching.
    Would love to her people's thoughts on the atom so keep the reviews coming as really keen on this grinder just with it was better as single dosing.
    Martin
    Hi Martin. I think that would be spot on. I had seem some YouTube video where someone had choked up the grinder going too fine and then had to disassemble to clear out the chute.
    That plus the newness factor and my lack of experience with the grinder I was a little reluctant to push to the limits without seeking wisdom. :-)

    I think the Ye Olde Ever Useful Aeropress funnel plus icecream lid adaptors may make a fine contribution to single dosing efforts.

    Very impressed by this grinder from all angles.



    I'm giving the standard hopper a go for the moment and doing a combo of double shot timed dose 9 seconds - tap to settle and then - 3 seconds of the single which consistently gets me between 18-19g.

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    Great match between your Nuova Simonelli and the Atom Matt...

    Made for each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Great match between your Nuova Simonelli and the Atom Matt...
    Made for each other. Mal.
    They do look good together don't they Mal. :-)

    I'm impressed with the shot quality improvement now that I'm in around the sweet spot with the Atom.

    Tomorrow my wife and I will be making short work of this El Salvador El Molino SO that has made it's way home.
    Suppose I should start taste testing my own roast of beautiful smelling PNG and Ethiopian Yirgi too :-)

    It might be the quad shot talking, but I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. :-D
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    I suspect the PF fork attachment area on the grinder could be an inlet for grinds to build and collect.



    And now it's time for some afternoon delights... thank you Atom and Oscar II and the farmers in El Salvador (and the transport companies and middle men/women).



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    In the process of putting the PF fork back together after plasti-dipping, I realised that the bit that goes into the body of the grinder could be flipped upsidedown. As is tradition, I had a laugh. So now my naked PF is well supported! (Plasti-dip not finalised, will report back later)
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    Hi all

    over in Fiji at the moment (tough life but hey) but should be taking delivery of the Atom when I return. Am dying to get my hands on it and this thread has some brilliant pointers that I will definitely be referencing.

    The wealth of knowledge on this site never ceases to amaze me and the friendly manner in which it is imparted is one of the many reasons I so enjoy reading and being a member of this forum.

    Sorry slightly off topic I know but there you are.

    Cheers all and time to sample some more Kava

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    Hi Al,
    Your ATOM is here ready to send on your return.
    Not long now!

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    Really appreciate the commentary on the Atom all, thank you. Has anyone done any taste comparisons? Curios about flavour profiles and the Atom as I am in the market for a new grinder and the Atom is on my 'consider' list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    So this box turned up today


    And out popped a grinder



    And a raw metal porta filter holder like others have mentioned here. * NB: interesting to note in the first post in this thread it talks of a powder coated PF holder.



    Looking forward to the kids being in bed so I can start to test this out further.
    Hi Matt
    Interested to see the PF holder received with your Atom. Mine is indeed painted and appears to be assembled differently - it does work well however "hands free"
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    Tridoros the fork part is inverted on yours. Or mine is inverted 🤣 Or they changed the part slightly along the way.

    Tridoros does your PF sit nicely in place for hands free?

    The more I look at this PF holder strikes me as slightly unfinished with little rough edges. Wondering when abouts this all changed at the factory / QA production process.

    At least my locking nut is powder coated. 🤡

    All this malarkey aside the grinder is tops. Lives up to the quiet and quality grinding.







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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Tridoros the fork part is inverted on yours. Or mine is inverted 藍 Or they changed the part slightly along the way.

    Tridoros does your PF sit nicely in place for hands free?

    The more I look at this PF holder strikes me as slightly unfinished with little rough edges. Wondering when abouts this all changed at the factory / QA production process.

    At least my locking nut is powder coated. 嵐

    All this malarkey aside the grinder is tops. Lives up to the quiet and quality grinding.







    Interesting you ask. I just tried my holder assembled the way yours is and there is simply too much gap for the top of the PF to sit snugly under the little ledge and at the same time, the bottom of the PF to sit on the forks to work hands free. The other way and it works a treat. I agree with you - after several months of use it is a winner imo.
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    Forks definitely need to be going upwards to help hold the PF in the right place.

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    Been following discussion on the Atom with interest. Does anyone know whether the chrome version will be coming to Australia?

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    Not at this stage biffel. We have black in stock and white in transit from Italy

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    Put the Atom through it's paces at a coffee stand we ran for NAIDOC week celebrations today. Consistent fluffy grinds. Accurate timer.
    Hands free makes a great difference in freeing you up to get on with other things.

    Great to have a quiet grinder as well and still be able to chat to people coming up.

    Set for 9.8 seconds to do a ~19g dose.

    Ours was a fairly low volume situation but good for what we wanted. We made around 80 coffees and 20+ other drinks over 2.5-3 hours. Hopper size works nicely for that volume.

    Back home for some more peace and quiet and to experiment with some single dosing methods for it.

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    Our pigeon pair of ATOMs on the bench. One is up and running for those that would like to come in and hear the serenity ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post


    Our pigeon pair of ATOMs on the bench. One is up and running for those that would like to come in and hear the serenity ....
    Sneaky pic! Is that an Empress in your shop??? :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuellaw178 View Post
    Sneaky pic! Is that an Empress in your shop??? :O
    This one?

    Good eyes!

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    Whoa, that's one really GORGEOUS lever!! Thanks for the piccies. Now back to atom (apologies for OT)...
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    hahaha... I'm not sure you need to apologise for coaxing Antony to put up a pic of that beauty Sam. Now what was I doing again...? That's right... back to watching espresso pour from a restored Conti Empress on youtube :-) There's an interesting one on OE's channel, but I'm not quite sure why he's wearing a white jumpsuit. It's making me think the restoration process sent them a little mad... a little too much like Mr Burns on the Simpsons telling Smithers to get in to the Spruce Moose at gunpoint. How's that for adding to the tangent. ;-P

    I'll keep waiting/hoping for Antony to post a video of the Atom grinder and pouring a shot from the Empress to bring us all back on topic 8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    hahaha... I'm not sure you need to apologise for coaxing Antony to put up a pic of that beauty Sam. Now what was I doing again...? That's right... back to watching espresso pour from a restored Conti Empress on youtube :-) There's an interesting one on OE's channel, but I'm not quite sure why he's wearing a white jumpsuit. It's making me think the restoration process sent them a little mad... a little too much like Mr Burns on the Simpsons telling Smithers to get in to the Spruce Moose at gunpoint. How's that for adding to the tangent. ;-P

    I'll keep waiting/hoping for Antony to post a video of the Atom grinder and pouring a shot from the Empress to bring us all back on topic 8-)


    Here you go Matt.
    I have just ordered a white jump suit online . Once it arrives I'll post the video...
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    Thanks Antony. Looks great.

    All the best coffee is made while wearing a white lab jump suit. Everyone knows that. 嵐


    Just so no one misses out on the Orphan Espresso video experience..
    https://youtu.be/i_RZMd-hiqE

    After that wash your eyes with a little Spinal Tap at the Freddy Mercury tribute concert. Why? YouTube suggested it...
    https://youtu.be/YxVMajzZUcA
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    Gail from SCG posted a video on cleaning your Atom grinder. Worth a watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Nice - I dream of meeting Gael one day.
    I have a little coffee crush
    Does Lauren know about this?
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    We have our ATOM demo on the bench tomorrow. Available to test next to a Macap M4D and Mazzer super Jolly for noise.
    Certainly worth the noise comparison for anyone in Melbourne that wants to drop in tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Thanks Antony. Looks great.

    All the best coffee is made while wearing a white lab jump suit. Everyone knows that. 嵐


    Just so no one misses out on the Orphan Espresso video experience..
    https://youtu.be/i_RZMd-hiqE

    After that wash your eyes with a little Spinal Tap at the Freddy Mercury tribute concert. Why? YouTube suggested it...
    https://youtu.be/YxVMajzZUcA


    Matt

    The white jump suit arrived today. We will get the Empress up and running and match with the ATOM.

    This Saturday I will be giving demonstrations wearing the white jump suit, tickets will be sold at the door, I will post the YouTube video soon....

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    Great news Antony!

    I was thinking of saving up for a trip to MICE 2018 but I may have to expedite that trip for the white jumpsuit and Empress 🤡 🤣
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    I really like the sound of your Strega + Atom combo too Antony. Hint hint. 🤣

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    Just took delivery of an Atom. Great mess-free grinding and the noise, or lack thereof, is impressive. One thing though, it jumps every time I start it up due to the torque of the motor. Does anyone else have this? I would rather it just sit still like my M4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigk View Post
    Just took delivery of an Atom. Great mess-free grinding and the noise, or lack thereof, is impressive. One thing though, it jumps every time I start it up due to the torque of the motor. Does anyone else have this? I would rather it just sit still like my M4.
    As long as it doesn't make you jump I wouldnt worry. Maybe put a few 5mg Valium tablets through it.
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    Hi Enigk... Can't recall mine spinning. Has it got all its feet?

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    My brother's one rocked back and forth to touch for the first couple of hours, I think it was due to the power cord not having any weight on it before and not quite sitting flush without a little weight on it. All good the next morning.
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    As above, check the feet and the cord. The power cord on the ATOM is quite solid, so if it isn't sitting correctly under the machine it might be preventing it from sitting square on your bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Hi Enigk... Can't recall mine spinning. Has it got all its feet?
    Yes everything looks to be in place from the outside. The entire grinder rotates anti clockwise (viewed from top) about a couple of degrees from this so I am having to keep shifting it back into position. Really annoying and something I feel shouldn't happen with a grinder of this level. Dont think it's a mechanical issue but an electrical one?

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    Enigk, the electronic work around would be what is often called 'softstart' technology, often used in power tools to ramp the revs up over a few seconds and so avoid any sudden torque movement. I am not sure if that works on a grinder which is under load straight away (if beans are in the hopper) or if the Atom has it. Possibly other owners could chime in if their machine takes a few seconds, if not you could assume it isn't on the machine but the cause might be physical.


    Ps after checking with your vendor, maybeclean the rubber feet with something like white spirits which leaves them nice and sticky?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 338 View Post
    Enigk, the electronic work around would be what is often called 'softstart' technology, often used in power tools to ramp the revs up over a few seconds and so avoid any sudden torque movement. I am not sure if that works on a grinder which is under load straight away (if beans are in the hopper) or if the Atom has it. Possibly other owners could chime in if their machine takes a few seconds, if not you could assume it isn't on the machine but the cause might be physical.


    Ps after checking with your vendor, maybeclean the rubber feet with something like white spirits which leaves them nice and sticky?
    Yes that is my initial thought. My fear is that my unit has the soft starter completely unfitted. I had tried physically holding the grinder down to feel how forceful it is. I am quite convinced anyone who tries this on my grinder will go "ok there's something definitely wrong here"

    Anyway, have contacted the vendor who said they will get someone to call me back. Will let you guys know how I go. Thanks for all the help snobs, I really appreciate it.
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    Glad to hear you're getting it checked out.

    Worth doing a vid on your phone if you're able just to document what you're seeing.

    Was wondering what surface you have the grinder sitting on.

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    Your grinder feet / similar to this?








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    Sits on stonetop. Feet look just like your pics. Cables are not impeding it resting fully on the feet.
    Even if I had it bolted to the bench, these shock loads can't be good for the machine's internals I reckon.
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    Something doesn't sound right about that. Neither mine not my brother's do anything like that. Hopefully your vendor gets back to you soon!

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