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    When Eureka say it is a powerful grinder it isn't just all torque obviously...

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    Did anyone buy their eureka atom from Coffee Parts and then get new declumper and portafilter holder? I heard some retailers are providing them for free

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    I'd be interested to know what the "new" ones look like...

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    I think I've read about in another forum, could be in the US, the new declumper is metal and the portafilter is slightly thicker

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    I'm pretty sure that change happened months ago. The black portafilter holder was the thin one and the stainless one you see in my posts in June is the new thicker one. I haven't pulled mine apart yet for a clean (might do that later today!) so I can't comment on the declumping mechanism, but I think from videos etc they look metal? I bought mine from Coffee Parts and haven't heard anything from them. Why them specifically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I'm pretty sure that change happened months ago. The black portafilter holder was the thin one and the stainless one you see in my posts in June is the new thicker one. I haven't pulled mine apart yet for a clean (might do that later today!) so I can't comment on the declumping mechanism, but I think from videos etc they look metal? I bought mine from Coffee Parts and haven't heard anything from them. Why them specifically?
    So are you saying the new one is the stainless steel one and the old one was black or did you spray it black? I bought mine end of May and it has a stainless steel one, but I'm not sure if that is the new or old one.

    I purchased mine from Coffee Parts and emailed them regarding these new changes. They said they'd check with Eureka and get back to me but never did.

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    The original Atoms came with a black portafilter fork, that was apparently a bit thin. The stainless ones are the new ones, mine is stainless but I painted it with black plasti-dip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    The original Atoms came with a black portafilter fork, that was apparently a bit thin. The stainless ones are the new ones, mine is stainless but I painted it with black plasti-dip.
    Ah thanks for clearing that, so I guess I do have the new one then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    The stainless ones are the new ones, mine is stainless but I painted it with black plasti-dip.
    Good reminder... I must make use of some holiday time and get the plasti-dip on.

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    I haven't pulled mine apart yet for a clean (might do that later today!)
    Definitely worth checking it out and pretty easy to get access to things.

    NOTE: The two screws holding on the top of grind chute seem like they've been strategically placed to ensure you'll be most likely to end up dropping in to the body of the grinder.

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    Try wiping the dust off the Atom’s feet with a wet cloth - they get pretty sticky then and this may help in stopping the torque effect for you

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    I think you will find that some of the early ATOMs that came into Australia as private imports had the black filter holder.

    Since then the Australian specified models (and current spec ) have the thicker stainless steel filter holder.

    The start of this thread has a review on a private import with the black filter holder. This may have added to the confusion.


    We have some pretty sharp pricing on the ATOMs at the moment including free delivery Australia wide
    https://www.casaespresso.com.au/eureka-atom.html



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    This is the updated holder. All stainless and quite a bit thicker then the original black holders

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    So I've noticed that whenever I pull my first shot in the morning in the Atom, it'll take about 18-20 seconds. And if I pull a shot after that or after another 2, the time taken is around 27-30 without making any changes to grind adjustment. Any idea why? Is it cos of burr temperatures?

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    Are you purging? Sounds like stale grinds. I purge at least 3.0s before the first shot of the day. Then the first shot is slightly faster (1-2s) than the second but not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Are you purging? Sounds like stale grinds. I purge at least 3.0s before the first shot of the day. Then the first shot is slightly faster (1-2s) than the second but not too bad.
    I do purge, but I think I may need to purge longer, will give that a try.

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    It isn’t purging then. The differences you are talking are not great. It could be the natural variation in the grind produced with this machine and/or technique in shot preparation, tamping or even variations in the espresso machine. It is what is in the cup that counts and there is a move to doing a shot based not on time but on what you see.

    You may have to be hospitalised soon in the Espresso ward of a local hospital.

    I will pray for you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvarghese View Post
    I do purge, but I think I may need to purge longer, will give that a try.
    Hi Chris
    Just out of interest are you weighing these doses out of the grinder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Hi Chris
    Just out of interest are you weighing these doses out of the grinder?
    Yea i do, been weighing 20gms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisvarghese View Post
    So I've noticed that whenever I pull my first shot in the morning in the Atom, it'll take about 18-20 seconds. And if I pull a shot after that or after another 2, the time taken is around 27-30 without making any changes to grind adjustment. Any idea why? Is it cos of burr temperatures?
    Might not be the grinder could be the espresso machine. Try pulling a blank shot first or give the first one to the wife.

    Second shot is usually better than the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    or give the first one to the wife.

    Second shot is usually better than the first.
    Your wife doesn't read the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Might not be the grinder could be the espresso machine. Try pulling a blank shot first or give the first one to the wife.

    Second shot is usually better than the first.
    As suggested could be that your machine is not fully up to heat yet, If it has an E61 group head then it will take a good 30min to come up to heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 338 View Post
    Your wife doesn't read the forum?
    My wife doesn't drink coffee. Its just me and the 3 year old
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    I've been purging a lot more (3-4 seconds) and it appears to be fine now. Thanks for the input guys.

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    Good to hear!

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    Maybe Antony @ Casa Espresso has seen or heard something from NS ... but I saw some pics which appear to be from HOST Milan mentioning Oscar II and Musica with Wifi Module... any truth to this?

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    Over to here now. After ruling out the Sette this looks like the one for me. Dream grinder and probably worth the extra dough. YOLO !
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    So I do now have my hands on one. I was thinking I was going to have to wait for the same importer shipment that I assume matt3wh is waiting on, but my wife had already ordered one for my birthday yestweday before stock ran out. Incidentally there is a shop in Sydney that has them on display, they're not a site sponsor so if you can't find them PM me. Alternatively anyone who wants to get hands on with one in Sydney is welcome to come and have a play with mine. I'll be in Glenhaven for the next few weeks while my wife recovers from a spinal fusion and then moving back home to Casula after that.

    And initial impressions are very very good. Very quiet, very well built, extremely consistent grind and fluffy clump free pile in the basket. Haven't quite got it dialed in yet but looking forward to running out of beans today!

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    Hi Level3ninja,
    Just ran across your post and in looking at your pic, I see you have the Breville 920 DB and the Atom. I have the 920 as well and am considering the Atom so I have a few questions. Could you tell me, either via post or PM, what settings you're using on your 920 when grinding via the Atom to attain what you consider your best espresso taste? If I get the Atom, I will of course need to spend a bit of time dialing in the settings and since you have the same 920 as I do, I'm thinking your recommendation would be what I would start with. Aside from that, it would also give me an idea of what another person with the 920 has theirs set at.

    If you're up for this, I'd like to know the following:

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    - Brew boiler temp (shot temp)
    - Pre infusion time and pressure
    - Whether you use volumetric or timed pulls. If volumetric, what did you set yours for, for a double shot (2 oz (59ml) in the cup). If timed, what time did you use?

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    - Where on the grind setting dial did you end up liking the best...assuming you did not rotate 360 or more from factory default. If you did, can you somehow explain how I would get to your setting?
    - How seconds did you program it for, for a double shot
    - What weight is your double shot after its ground?

    For me, it seems to be down to either the Atom or the Ceado E37J.

    Thanks much!
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    I'll happily give you that information if you want, but unless you're using the same beans as me there's no point adjusting your machines settings. You're much better off using a bean you're familiar with and leaving the machine set up for that bean, then once you're dialled in you can start taking the machine settings if you feel they could be better. The beans I use and a relatively light espresso roast that I brew at a 1:1.5 ratio (20 in, 30 out, in 25-28s). They are more acidic than standard espresso and because they are a lighter roast take longer to grind.

    It took me close to 2kg to dial in the Atom when I got it, for 2 main reasons (aside from running out of beans and changing halfway through): I wasn't purging enough when changing the grind setting, and because I want keeping the level of beans in the hopper the same. Normally I keep the level in the hopper roughly the same, but for some reason just because I knew I'd need a lot of beans when dialling in I kept filling it up and nearly emptying it, so I'd adjust the grind several times and feel I was getting close, then I'd have to refill the hopper, then I'd have to make a bunch more adjustments, and repeat. Once I realised that and made 2-3 double shots on each grind setting before changing it again dialling in happened fairly quickly.

    Here's the low and high levels I use in the Atom hopper:
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    - Brew boiler temp (shot temp) > 93
    - Pre infusion time and pressure > 7s, 65%
    - Whether you use volumetric or timed pulls. If volumetric, what did you set yours for, for a double shot (2 oz (59ml) in the cup). If timed, what time did you use? > Volumetric and set to 30g in the cup, no idea what the volume is. You set it by starting and stopping the shot so there's no numbers to change in the menu.

    Atom
    - Where on the grind setting dial did you end up liking the best...assuming you did not rotate 360 or more from factory default. If you did, can you somehow explain how I would get to your setting? > I don't think I went more that a complete turn, it seemed to be set more for filter coffee out of the box, I had to turn it ¾ of a turn or more clockwise (looking from the top). It's between 1.5 and 2 on the dial now (haven't moved it a great deal since dialling it in, I think it was between 2-2.5 and I've gradually taken it finer).
    - How seconds did you program it for, for a double shot > depends on the age of the beans, it ranges from 12.5-13.3s over the life of the beans. I have used another type of beans that were closer to a traditional espresso roast (darker than my normal ones) and they were ~9.4 seconds
    - What weight is your double shot after its ground? > 20g - if I keep the beans in the hopper as per the photos above it's incredibly consistent, it only changes as the beans age. Unless I forget to refill the hopper or top it up too much I don't have to change the time more than every 5-6 days. Also I purge 3.5s (single shot button) before every session, and when I am dialling it in I use the single shot button to make changes and then purge a full double shot before pulling a shot, once it's drinkable I don't purge between shots and just only make changes every 3 shots or more. It's not great for single dosing and does retain more than some other grinders, but if you're happy leaving beans in the hopper and purging before each session it's an amazing grinder that produces a fluffy clump free grind in a very consistent fashion.

    Let me know if your want any more info.
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    Thanks much Level3ninja!,
    Right, I realize that about the difference in beans. I understand that both the Atom and Ceado retain approx 3g within the machine, probably the only thing I've seen about these machines that's a negative, but it is what it is. Not quite sure what you mean when you said "double doors" However, are you saying that there is a difference in the outcome that is determined by how much beans you have in the hopper? Am I understanding this correctly? Can you explain more on this? Does it push more grounds out per second if there are more beans in the hopper and less per second if there are fewer beans in the hopper?

    Thanks for the 920 settings. I use (200F) 93.4C for my brew temp now. I've played around with the full range the 920 allows, didn't really taste any diff so settled on factory preset. Possibly with a better grinder I may have noticed a diff, dunno. I am currently using a Baratza Preciso grinder. I'm currently at 7 sec pre infusion at 60% and am using volumetric pulls. However, are you saying you're using 20g of coffee for 30g of espresso in the cup? This must be a pretty powerful drink! 30g weight = 1oz. I use 18g coffee to make a double shot which is 2ozs or by weight is 60g.

    Are you happy with your 920?

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    Hi Marty.
    Oops, double doors was meant to be double shots.
    Yes the amount of beans in the hopper change the fineness of the grind, and that changes how much you get out per second. On my old Breville Smart Grinder the lower the hopper level the finer the grind and the longer it took to come out, with the Atom it's the other way around- a fuller hopper will produce a finer grind and take longer.
    Yes the beans I use work better at a lower brew ratio, quite strong in a per ml sense, but close to normal strength of a double shot. I would be very careful translating weight and volume like that, you can't read one and assume the other without measuring. Especially given that the crema is traditionally included in the volume measurement and weighs far less than the liquid espresso, which itself weighs less than water per ml because the coffee oils are less dense than water. My 30g out is probably about 50ml by eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Hi Marty.
    Oops, double doors was meant to be double shots.
    Yes the amount of beans in the hopper change the fineness of the grind, and that changes how much you get out per second. On my old Breville Smart Grinder the lower the hopper level the finer the grind and the longer it took to come out, with the Atom it's the other way around- a fuller hopper will produce a finer grind and take longer.
    Yes the beans I use work better at a lower brew ratio, quite strong in a per ml sense, but close to normal strength of a double shot. I would be very careful translating weight and volume like that, you can't read one and assume the other without measuring. Especially given that the crema is traditionally included in the volume measurement and weighs far less than the liquid espresso, which itself weighs less than water per ml because the coffee oils are less dense than water. My 30g out is probably about 50ml by eye.
    Reading with interest even though I have neither the Breville DB nor Atom hehe.. some great info here.

    Interesting regarding the hopper level... I wonder if there's an optimal amount that is best not to go below in the hopper for the best consistency (e.g. 100g of beans, 200g..). Probably grinder dependent, but would be handy to know... and I also always thought the 'finger guard' in hoppers wasn't only to protect fingers but was also there to offload some weight of the beans so it keeps it at a consistent weight of beans on the burrs, could be wrong.. so maybe just keeping the hopper level around or above the finger guard level would be optimal.. if anyone had any thoughts that'd be swell. (And I know there are probably some folk who think it's rubbish to even bother pondering about this haha but it's good to know for consistency sake what the best weight of beans or minimum level would be). I'm not too concerned with the timed dose aspect I guess, but moreso grind consistency.

    And true regarding volume/weight... 60ml of water is not the same as 60ml of espresso, it's a different density to water (I would have thought it was more dense though..?) and will weigh more at a certain volume, they don't translate exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post
    Reading with interest even though I have neither the Breville DB nor Atom hehe.. some great info here.

    Interesting regarding the hopper level... I wonder if there's an optimal amount that is best not to go below in the hopper for the best consistency (e.g. 100g of beans, 200g..). Probably grinder dependent, but would be handy to know... and I also always thought the 'finger guard' in hoppers wasn't only to protect fingers but was also there to offload some weight of the beans so it keeps it at a consistent weight of beans on the burrs, could be wrong.. so maybe just keeping the hopper level around or above the finger guard level would be optimal.. if anyone had any thoughts that'd be swell. (And I know there are probably some folk who think it's rubbish to even bother pondering about this haha but it's good to know for consistency sake what the best weight of beans or minimum level would be). I'm not too concerned with the timed dose aspect I guess, but moreso grind consistency.

    And true regarding volume/weight... 60ml of water is not the same as 60ml of espresso, it's a different density to water (I would have thought it was more dense though..?) and will weigh more at a certain volume, they don't translate exactly the same.
    The finger guard may help, but doesn't change the fact that the weight pushes down onto the beans being ground and affects the result. As a general rule I find between ⅓ and ⅔ of the height of the hopper to be a good starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post

    And true regarding volume/weight... 60ml of water is not the same as 60ml of espresso, it's a different density to water (I would have thought it was more dense though..?) and will weigh more at a certain volume, they don't translate exactly the same.
    The crema is a lot less dense than water. It's got holes in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    The finger guard may help, but doesn't change the fact that the weight pushes down onto the beans being ground and affects the result. As a general rule I find between ⅓ and ⅔ of the height of the hopper to be a good starting point.
    Ah okay right, yeah I just thought it helped to regulate the weight after it reaches a certain point, but I guess it doesn't stop the beans along the sides of the hopper from pushing down. I usually go about 1/3 I think, 200grams or so, which may be closer to a 1/4 actually for my hopper...

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    The crema is a lot less dense than water. It's got holes in it.
    Ah yeah I was referring moreso to the espresso liquid rather than the crema

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Hi Marty.
    Oops, double doors was meant to be double shots.
    Yes the amount of beans in the hopper change the fineness of the grind, and that changes how much you get out per second. On my old Breville Smart Grinder the lower the hopper level the finer the grind and the longer it took to come out, with the Atom it's the other way around- a fuller hopper will produce a finer grind and take longer.
    Yes the beans I use work better at a lower brew ratio, quite strong in a per ml sense, but close to normal strength of a double shot. I would be very careful translating weight and volume like that, you can't read one and assume the other without measuring. Especially given that the crema is traditionally included in the volume measurement and weighs far less than the liquid espresso, which itself weighs less than water per ml because the coffee oils are less dense than water. My 30g out is probably about 50ml by eye.
    Level3ninja!,
    Hmmmm,…knowing this now, is there any way you can describe the difference in the outcome between a full and close to empty hopper? Example, would the difference be equivalent to say one intentional twist of the grind adjustment knob from one whole number to the adjacent one? or half a whole number turn? How much finer is finer and how much coarser is course, if you know what I mean. I don’t really care about how long it takes to grind cause anything I buy is going to be faster than my Preciso :-) Just trying to gauge the magnitude of the difference.

    I guess the other and maybe more important question would be…are all grinders affected in this manner? If so, then its really a moot point and just something that’s good to know to help you tweak the process. Sorta blows my mind cause I thought I had all the variables understood, would never have thrown this one into the “hopper” he he ha ha

    Couple more questions….How long have you had your Breville DB? Do you like it enough to stay with it? Can you buy spare parts for it? .. .. and..now that you’ve had your Atom for a bit, how reliable has it been? All the places I’m looking at offer only one year warranty.

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    I'm not sure exactly what the dial to hopper load exchange is. Both full and nearly empty will make a shot run too fast or too slow making it borderline drinkable, maybe one full number top to bottom or thereabouts.

    To my knowledge all grinders with hoppers are affected this way, so yes it's moot.

    I've had my 920 for nearly 3 years, or maybe 4, I don't remember. I'll stick with it until it dies (costs more to repair than replace) but I can't see myself replacing it. Yes I can get spare parts. I've had the Atom since June and it hasn't missed a beat. I got chatting to a barista in a cafe and when I mentioned I had an Atom he said the last cafe he worked in in the city used one as their decaf grinder and called it "a little trooper." Yes pretty much every grinder you buy will only have a 1 year warranty, but I expect my Atom to last for years and years. It's very solidly built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martino View Post
    Level3ninja!,
    I guess the other and maybe more important question would be…are all grinders affected in this manner? If so, then its really a moot point and just something that’s good to know to help you tweak the process. Sorta blows my mind cause I thought I had all the variables understood, would never have thrown this one into the “hopper” he he ha ha
    Hahaha love it... XD

    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I'm not sure exactly what the dial to hopper load exchange is. Both full and nearly empty will make a shot run too fast or too slow making it borderline drinkable, maybe one full number top to bottom or thereabouts.

    To my knowledge all grinders with hoppers are affected this way, so yes it's moot.
    And yeah I had no idea about this... I knew near empty was gonna affect grind consistency but didn't know there would be difference between full hopper and say 1/3 hopper.. still think it must be something to do with a minimum level/weight of beans that's optimal, but I might just experiment with that.
    Doesn't really matter anyway as I usually fill the hopper to roughly the same level each time I guess, but now might be more aware of any changes that might happen... cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    I'm not sure exactly what the dial to hopper load exchange is. Both full and nearly empty will make a shot run too fast or too slow making it borderline drinkable, maybe one full number top to bottom or thereabouts.

    To my knowledge all grinders with hoppers are affected this way, so yes it's moot.

    I've had my 920 for nearly 3 years, or maybe 4, I don't remember. I'll stick with it until it dies (costs more to repair than replace) but I can't see myself replacing it. Yes I can get spare parts. I've had the Atom since June and it hasn't missed a beat. I got chatting to a barista in a cafe and when I mentioned I had an Atom he said the last cafe he worked in in the city used one as their decaf grinder and called it "a little trooper." Yes pretty much every grinder you buy will only have a 1 year warranty, but I expect my Atom to last for years and years. It's very solidly built.
    Good discussion, thanks for being so prompt in answering all my questions, much appreciated! I just ordered the Atom a few minutes ago and will use it with my Breville 920 till I decide which espresso machine to replace it with. I'd keep it if only Breville would sell me spare parts but so be it.

    For anyone who may be reading this, I'm thinking about either the Quick Mill Vertrano 2B EVO or the ECM Synchronika to pair up with the Atom. Any comments are welcome.

    Thanks again Level3ninja and others who've chimed in on this topic!

    Marty

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    Hi Marty
    Enjoy the quiet coffee grinding of the Atom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martino View Post
    Level3ninja!,
    Hmmmm,…knowing this now, is there any way you can describe the difference in the outcome between a full and close to empty hopper? Example, would the difference be equivalent to say one intentional twist of the grind adjustment knob from one whole number to the adjacent one? or half a whole number turn? How much finer is finer and how much coarser is course, if you know what I mean. I don’t really care about how long it takes to grind cause anything I buy is going to be faster than my Preciso :-) Just trying to gauge the magnitude of the difference.

    I guess the other and maybe more important question would be…are all grinders affected in this manner? If so, then its really a moot point and just something that’s good to know to help you tweak the process. Sorta blows my mind cause I thought I had all the variables understood, would never have thrown this one into the “hopper” he he ha ha

    Couple more questions….How long have you had your Breville DB? Do you like it enough to stay with it? Can you buy spare parts for it? .. .. and..now that you’ve had your Atom for a bit, how reliable has it been? All the places I’m looking at offer only one year warranty.

    Marty
    For what it is worth Marty, we offer a two year warranty on all our Eureka grinders, Including the ATOM

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    For what it is worth Marty, we offer a two year warranty on all our Eureka grinders, Including the ATOM

    cheers

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    Now you tell me! ha ha, thanks Antony but I just ordered it a short bit ago. I did get a two year warranty, free shipping and a discount. Anyway, I'm in the US, shipping from Aus would have been pricey I suspect.

    Marty

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    Postage we could have handled, different voltage maybe not...

    All the best, i am sure you will be happy with your decision

    cheers

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    My thoughts on the Atom - after 2 weeks...
    WOW WOW WOW.
    I don' post alot but this grinder has just blown me away. I can't do it justice in words so just say "watch the video reviews online" and TRUST them.
    i was skeptical of the quiet claims and many other claims but its all true. AMAZINGLY quiet.
    Grind is fluffy and quick and I never spill even a single speck when i dose. LED light is cool.
    I could go on and on but I won't.
    Brilliant grinder. just brilliant.
    Ugly, maybe, but 100% brilliant.
    Cheers,
    Andreaaaaaaaaa
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    I got an amazing price as well. Won't publish it here but just say I'm happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andreaaaa View Post
    I'm happy
    Cool to hear you’re having a great experience.
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