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    Eureka Atom

    Mini review Eureka ATOM
    Imported from Bella Barista in the UK, November 2016

    The ATOM stands 44cm high with hopper attached, which makes it kitchen cupboard friendly and weighs in at nearly 8.5kg. Finish is up to the usual high Eureka standard, comprising neat cast aluminium for the main body and surrounding the Hi-res colour display and high quality moulded plastics in the dispensing area and base plate. The hopper/lid combo and additional container also continue the theme. There is an easily removable height adjustable PF holder made of an alloy (?) with black powder-coat finish. It may be lightish, but appears extremely strong (it also appears to be a MkII version which allows hands free if adjusted correctly). There's the standard push button for activation of the grinder that will dispense according to the electronically controlled timer settings. For cleaning of the 60mm burrs, the top plate of the grinder (with silicon rubber collar insert for the hopper) is easily removable with 3 allen head screws (allen key supplied) then another 3 screws for the top burr holder with no loss of grind settings.

    You'll need a UK to AU plug adapter and when first switched on, the screen boots up quickly showing firstly the Eureka logo followed by a 1 or 2 cup display, depending on previous settings. Time in sub-seconds/seconds can be adjusted via simple push buttons. The screen is brightness adjustable if required and with a press of the middle button with the asterisk symbol on it, displays a neat graphic of a burr. Press it again and you can do a manual top up of the P/F or fill the supplied container for french press.

    Performance is a little slower than my Zenith 65E - 8 secs for a double versus 6 secs for the 65E, which is irrelevant to the home espresso maker and I expect this will change a bit in time anyway as the burrs bed in. The ATOM is eerily quiet in action, in fact this is the quietest grinder/kitchen type gadget I've ever heard. The sound deadening design of the ATOM appears to work extremely well.
    Another design plus is the plastic coffee shute which sits behind the easily movable-to-one side display (just 2 allen screws) its still connected by cables of course. This really is nicely engineered and has at the top, some internal z shaped channels for anti-clumping when the ground beans are ejected from the grinding area and directed down into the PF in an oh-so-neat brown column. In addition there is a clever partially removable silicon rubber cover over the shute if you manage to clog it or just general cleaning. Static is almost non-existent, clumping not apparent and mess minimal.
    In addition and like the 65E, there is an LED to light the dispensing area. You really have to see (and not hear it) to appreciate the clever design progression from the 65E/Club.

    The torquey RPM motor is 245 watts and the micrometric burr adjustment takes place via a knob on top just like the 65E which minutely raises or lowers the motor axis (not the motor). This is silky smooth and great to use.

    In summary, which you may have gathered already from my praise, the ATOM is a serious contender for those currently looking at Macap M4D, Rocket Fausto, ECM/Profitec etc.
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    Thanks for that great review Tridoros.
    You're right about the comparisons. I was looking at the Profitec T64 and Rocket Fausto if I wanted to upgrade until I recently came across the ATOM on the internet.
    As a very satisfied Eureka owner, I would definately put the ATOM on the top of my list if it was available here.
    Does anyone know why it is not available in Aus - at least I don't think it is?

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    I've seen it advertised locally but no pricing attached. Buying from Bella Barista was just too easy and landed price was under $1000 so no GST to worry about. Have thought it a bit odd that only some Eureka models are available here. Glad you liked the review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster View Post
    Thanks for that great review Tridoros.
    You're right about the comparisons. I was looking at the Profitec T64 and Rocket Fausto if I wanted to upgrade until I recently came across the ATOM on the internet.
    As a very satisfied Eureka owner, I would definately put the ATOM on the top of my list if it was available here.
    Does anyone know why it is not available in Aus - at least I don't think it is?

    Mal
    We are now supplying the ATOM grinder.

    We have them in stock now and they are certainly an impressive unit

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    Hi, I understand that these units are super quiet, a must have in my household!

    Very interested in understanding more about these units.

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    What price are they? As I can't find them on your website

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    What price are they? As I can't find them on your website
    Hi Stan
    RRP is $1275

    But is a CSr wants to call us you might find Santa is around....

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    At $1275 it won't be contender to M4D, which costs a lot less than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symphonie View Post
    At $1275 it won't be contender to M4D, which costs a lot less than that.
    Interesting call Symphonies.

    We import and distribute the Macap range of grinders in Australia so I know the M4D very well.

    Yes it might compete with the M4 in terms of size and grind speed but in my mind it is a very different beast.

    The lack of noise is quite remarkable, the dial adjustment very easy and the filter grind catcher very clever.

    Is it worth an extra $300? For those that want the added benefits I would say yes.

    Can everyone justify the extra $300, no of course not.

    It's up to the buyer and I think In this case the ATOM is well placed

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    Certainly is a contender, I was looking at options to replace my Mazzer Mini which is 8 Years old. Price wise it is certainly in the area of the Profitec and Fausto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Certainly is a contender, I was looking at options to replace my Mazzer Mini which is 8 Years old. Price wise it is certainly in the area of the Profitec and Fausto
    Hi all ,

    Heads up on the ATOM. They have moved very quickly , we have only two left of our first order. After these next order arrival is end of January.

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    I hope to be in Melbourne in early January. I will try to get in and have a look, if there is one left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    I hope to be in Melbourne in early January. I will try to get in and have a look, if there is one left.
    Hi Stan,

    I do have a confession to make. One of our first units is now my home grinder having replaced an M4D.

    I can always bring the home unit in for a look if you are around in January

    Cheers

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    Is there one on a bench somewhere in Sydney, Antony? I'm not gonna be swinging through Melbourne any time soon...

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    Yes there is one in Sydney. Let me check in the morning if it's still there and I'll send you a PM

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    I will ring when I get there have more idea as to how much time I have there. Thanks.

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    Atom Innards

    For those of you who like to know what makes things tick as I do. Wouldn't necessarily do this with a locally bought Atom however. Of some interest is the 4th jpg. Notice the lack of clinging grounds in the shute - the inside surface of the rubber cover has a light dusting.
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    This grinder looks terrific on paper and the clips on line are impressive. Any other CSs with an Atom? I'm looking at purchasing one but have noticed little chatter about the Atom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    Hi all ,

    Heads up on the ATOM. They have moved very quickly , we have only two left of our first order. After these next order arrival is end of January.

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    Can't see them listed on your website ATM?

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    We have such limited stock I didn't want to over publicize and not be able to deliver.
    I can send you specs and availability details if you want to send me a PM
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    Purchased Atom this week. Still tweaking in the grind, but so far I am impressed by the grind quality (very consistent and "fluffy"-NO clumping). The "fluffiness does mean I need to pause the grind, collapse the mound and then finish off the dosing. Without doing this, the grinds spill out of the basket. A truly first world problem! The sound, or lack there of, is wonderful. I bought the Atom to replace my trusty Mini Mazzer. I loved my Mazzer, but its noise and lack of speed meant it was banished to the laundry. The Eureka's lack of volume and relatively quick grind will hopefully mean it can take "pride of place" alongside my GS3. I will try to post some pics and thoughts later.
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    rbk, another convert? - good to read you like the Atom too.
    Further thoughts: my trusty 65E has now been relegated to de-caff duties; have also found the pause function handy for all that fluffiness and a previous Mini Mazzer I on-sold, only because of its clunky grind adjustment. Will keep an eye out for your pics.

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    [QUOTE=Tridoros;596796]rbk, another convert? - good to read you like the Atom too.
    Further thoughts: my trusty 65E has now been relegated to de-caff duties; have also found the pause function handy for all that fluffiness and a previous Mini Mazzer I on-sold, only because of its clunky grind adjustment. Will keep an eye out for your pics.[/IMG_2513.jpg
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    Great looking combo you have there rbk...

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    rbk, is that an after-market tray under the Atom?

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    The Atom is fairly tidy, but the grind is "fluffy", with the inevitable small amount of spillage. Had a spare tray to grab the odd bits here and there. The amount ending up in the tray is getting smaller as I get used to the new grinder.
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    Fluffy grinds, quiet, low grind retention, responsive interface. Only thing it might be nice to have is the portafilter holder be hands free.

    That aside. I'd like to buy this grinder at some point when money is more forth coming.

    Eureka Atom vs Rocket Fausto | CR Comparison
    https://youtu.be/HluQMB1d8jE

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    Eureka Atom CR - inside the Atom
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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Fluffy grinds, quiet, low grind retention, responsive interface. Only thing it might be nice to have is the portafilter holder be hands free.

    That aside. I'd like to buy this grinder at some point when money is more forth coming.

    Eureka Atom vs Rocket Fausto | CR Comparison
    https://youtu.be/HluQMB1d8jE

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    Eureka Atom CR - inside the Atom
    https://youtu.be/JrchXJrXVsM
    Once the holder is adjusted via the allen screw to your particular pf, it works fine hands free.
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    Does anyone know anywhere in Sydney that has one on the bench? I know Jet Black Espresso doesn't.

    Edit: di Bartoli just got back to me and they only stock the Mignon, and don't even have that on the bench.
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    Try Espresso mechanics
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbk View Post
    Try Espresso mechanics
    For anyone else wondering, they just got back to me saying they don't at the moment but are expecting stock to arrive in mid April.
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    For anyone else wondering, they just got back to me saying they don't at the moment but are expecting stick to arrive in mid April.
    \

    I'm not sure if you will find Espresso Mechanics with ATOM stock from now on, certainly not directly importing.

    We do have some limited stock down here in Melbourne

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    So I thought I'd share my experiences with the Atom so far after having owned it for about a week and a bit.

    This grinder as mentioned is super quiet, it's crazy how quiet it is given how fast it grinds. In addition the grinds are clump free even on very fine settings and come out really fluffy. I came from the Macap M4D and I believe it performs better than the M4D, also I find adjusting and dialling in the Atom much easier.
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    Glad you are happy Derrick. This grinder is all that we hoped and more....
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    I was afraid it wasn't going to be much of an upgrade over the M4D, however that doesn't appear the case and it is a step up.
    The only thing I see that could be improved is the portafilter holder, the way it is "locked" into the grinder body is a bit flimsy though it does make removal quick if needed.

    One more thing I found was that the beans tend to fly up and around a bit more when the hopper is not fully loaded up, didn't notice this on the M4D and it may be due to the auger design.

    Thanks Casa for supplying the Atom!

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    Very nice Derrick. The stand out for this grinder seems to be the quiet grinding. Rule of thumb is bigger and heavier body = more sound deadening
    Enjoy the serenity.

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    The pre-production demo we had for a few weeks had some issues, but it's been fixed. A pallet of these grinders just arrived this morning. Super super good for the money. Made in the same factory as the Mythos One. Same thick power cable. Very quiet grinding.

    Matth3hw, the portafilter grinding is hands free! Adjust the fork with the supplied allen key. I'll upload a video soon.
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    That's very cool! Thank you for the video Wushoes. This grinder ticks a lot of boxes. They really are amazingly quiet. :-)
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    Anyone given a go using the Atom for changing up between espresso to other grind settings for pour over brewing. I find a few places mentioning this as a possibility. So I wonder what's it's like in reality.

    The Atom comes with a grinds bin, but I'm guessing it's a case of yes it can do either but switching up between the two is too much effort.

    In wondering all this I currently use a LSM95/A grinder with dosing chamber and manage to switch between a bunch of grind settings On the grind adjustment ring it has 1 to 12, and I typically get a decent range from espresso end at 3 to 8 coarse grind / cold brew).
    Now when the LSM factor built this thing in 1999 they didn't know some crazy would be single dosing this grinder and getting pretty good results. Down side is this doesn't allow the ultra fine tuning of other grinders for espresso. Up sides... crazy low grind retention for this type of grinder, really quick and easy to jump back and forward between espresso, other grind settings and back and return to similar flow.

    Atom Sales Spiel / Quote:
    ATOM a grinder on demand designed for those looking for quality, accuracy and small encumbrance, ideal for ESPRESSO coffee or BREW coffee (coffee filter).
    It can be used to grind in its container by actuating a button or directly in the filter holder with additional double possibility: timer with programmable dose for 1 or 2 cups or with manual function.
    The grinding is extremely fast, the induction engine and SILENT technology make it very noiseless
    The micrometric adjustment without stop points of the grinding takes place via a knob which acts on the motor axis, a Eureka patent.
    The cleaning process of mills and of the grinding chamber is extremely simple, simply unscrew the screws of the top and get inside.
    In the ground coffee there is the total absence of clump (agglomeration of the coffee), a flap was used which ensures the
    rupture of the clump of coffee, in this way we avoid the coffee dispersion outside of the filter holder.
    Designed to create optimal air circulation within...
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    I haven't tried ityself as I'm still failing to get hands on with one (anyone in Sydney have one and happy to let me come over and try it out? I'll pay in beans, beer or both!), but the fact that there is no absolute point of reference on the adjustment knob means there would likely be a dialling back in shot or three, unless you went all the way to the end and then a certain number of rotations of the knob, although you'd lose beans while adjusting finer anyway I would have thought.

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    Here's a great review of the Atom put up against the Baratza Forte.
    https://youtu.be/rTchCFLlcCo

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    Wow that Atom really purrs quietly!! Also the pause feature - colour me impressed. Dunno if there's any benefit to it or not (not denying it might, I've just never experienced dosing in halves) but it's cool.
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    Is it just me or do others see the angles of the Atom as a good match for a LMLM?

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    Wondering again about grind adjustment on the Atom... see pics below which give a reasonable view of the grind coarseness/fineness reference marks...

    Is it reasonable to expect that around 1 to 4 is fine/espresso range and above that is more V60.

    Therefore not requiring a great deal change of rotations on the dial?
    Or is it as level3ninja suggests you'd be turning the dial several full revolutions to make changes and then working your way back by remembering how many turns ? (clarify if I've got that wrong or if that's what you were meaning in your post?)

    I noticed in the video that there are some numbers on the dial but I'm wondering how much the numbers on the dial correspond to change in grind size - grosso/fine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Wondering again about grind adjustment on the Atom... see pics below which give a reasonable view of the grind coarseness/fineness reference marks...

    Is it reasonable to expect that around 1 to 4 is fine/espresso range and above that is more V60.

    Therefore not requiring a great deal change of rotations on the dial?
    Or is it as level3ninja suggests you'd be turning the dial several full revolutions to make changes and then working your way back by remembering how many turns ? (clarify if I've got that wrong or if that's what you were meaning in your post?)

    I noticed in the video that there are some numbers on the dial but I'm wondering how much the numbers on the dial correspond to change in grind size - grosso/fine.



    Hi Matt,

    Yes there are numbers on the dial to use as a reference.

    I have only ever adjusted half a number either way once its fundamentally dialled in for espresso.

    I haven't gone a full 180 degree turn to see the change as I haven't had the need to set up for filter. However its a really good question. My home grinder is now the ATOM. Ill test tomorrow and let you know the results

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    The grinder itself is super sensitive to adjustments which is weird for a worm gear/knob adjustment style. Usually the ratio of gears makes it so a large throw in adjustment, makes incredibly small adjustments at the burrs, like La Cimbali Junior. I think they made it sensitive so you're not turning forever to go between filter and espresso ranges. I wish this wasn't the case.

    I found myself dosing 18 g in at around about 5.5 or so when new. Both grinders have bedded in now and are sitting around 4ish for espresso.

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    Thank you Antony. Really appreciate your help checking in to it.

    I'm almost there I think on this grinder. The quietness of the grinder will be a big selling point for my wife (and me).

    Fine tuning the espresso a bit better than my current grinder will also be a big plus :-)

    Thank you Wushoes... I was wondering whether that was the case, as you say, very small adjustments altering the grind a fair bit.

    If you don't end up liking yours for the school, put me down for one of yours, otherwise I'll likely be contacting Antony for a sale in the not too distant future :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes View Post
    The grinder itself is super sensitive to adjustments which is weird for a worm gear/knob adjustment style. Usually the ratio of gears makes it so a large throw in adjustment, makes incredibly small adjustments at the burrs, like La Cimbali Junior. I think they made it sensitive so you're not turning forever to go between filter and espresso ranges. I wish this wasn't the case.

    I found myself dosing 18 g in at around about 5.5 or so when new. Both grinders have bedded in now and are sitting around 4ish for espresso.
    We used to find the same on the Nuova Simonelli MCF and MDF grinders which are made by Eureka and had the same dial adjustments. Very small movements of the dial are all that are required for espresso.

    My expectation is that a 180 degree turn will give a large change in grind

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    I currently have mine set to 1-1.5 for espresso, as the bean ages I only make 0.5 adjustment +/- as Anthony mentioned.
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