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Thread: Lelit PL43MMi to match first HX machine

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    Lelit PL43MMi to match first HX machine

    Hey all!

    Long time reader, first time poster (I think?)

    My wife recently bought me a Expobar Office Leva (which she got brand new for $1700...a steal!). It's my entry into the 'prosumer' category after a loooooong time of reading and research. I've spent the last 4-5 years on full manual machines - had a ROK Espresso couple with a bellman stovetop steamer for a few years, then got myself a Little Guy with the induction top. I have absolutely loved the process and ritual of making coffee on those machines, coupled with the pain/annoyance of hand grinding my beans every time. But, time has come to move to something that will offer different challenges (and also free up a lot more time in the morning!)

    Onto the question - I'm needing to get myself a grinder to accompany said HX machine but budget is an issue (max $450). I've haven't seen a huge amount out there about the Lelit PL43's and their ability for everyday use. Is it a grinder that people would recommend? I'll be using it primarily for espresso on the expobar (2-3 shots a day)

    I've also read up on the Compak K3's and Macao M2M's but I know I can grab myself a Lelit PL43 for under $400. I am also fully aware that although upfront cost is high, you kind of amortise the cost of a grinder over years of use; from reading I see that the Compaks and Macaps will last a long long time with minimal issues. Does anyone have any insights on the longevity of the Lelits?

    I was also considering for a while the Rocky, but feel that perhaps it's not quite in the same boat as what I'm suggesting above...happy to be challenged on this though!

    Thanks all!

    Wes

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    Lelit PL43MMi to match first HX machine

    Hi Wesley,

    Congrats. An e61 HX is where things get serious

    I just released my new buyers guide so pleas take a look here: https://www.kbean.com.au/buyers-guide/

    My website also has thoughts and comments of most grinders you're thinking about.

    Enjoy Paul

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    Spend a little more and get a k3 or m2m. Its only a small percentage more and you get a grinder with a huge following and for a very good reason.
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    I'd also highly recommend keeping a close eye on the 4-sale section...

    CoffeeSnobs tend to be very fastidious owners of coffee machinery and some great bargains come up from time to time as CSers upgrade or change over to something else...

    Mal.
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    As above, your $400/450 will get you a great used grinder. In home use the blades will last a lifetime and if you need to replace them they are often cheap and then you are good to go for many more years. Use your hand grinder and be ready to pounce when one pops up. There is the cross threaded one now for $100 you might be able to resurrect if you are a tinkerer type.

    I would go a K3 or M2 over the little lelit grinder. Although the lelit is still quite good, the others are the next step and worth the small $ premium (when new).

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Hi Wesley,

    Congrats. An e61 HX is where things get serious

    I just released my new buyers guide so pleas take a look here: https://www.kbean.com.au/buyers-guide/

    My website also has thoughts and comments of most grinders you're thinking about.

    Enjoy Paul
    Thanks for the response Paul! I have most definitely had a read and browse through your site...not far from your showroom in Melbourne either! Might send you a message if I want to come look at an M2M in person and have a chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    I'd also highly recommend keeping a close eye on the 4-sale section...

    CoffeeSnobs tend to be very fastidious owners of coffee machinery and some great bargains come up from time to time as CSers upgrade or change over to something else...

    Mal.
    Thanks Mal

    Definitely keeping an eye on the FS section
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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    Use your hand grinder and be ready to pounce when one pops up. There is the cross threaded one now for $100 you might be able to resurrect if you are a tinkerer type.

    I would go a K3 or M2 over the little lelit grinder. Although the lelit is still quite good, the others are the next step and worth the small $ premium (when new).

    Cheers
    I keep my drill on charge all the time as it fastens well to the top of my hand grinder..speeds up the morning grind but I'm getting itchy for a proper grinder.

    There's an 8y/o Mazzer Mini available ATM for a reasonable price. Just not sure whether purchasing an 8 y/o Mazzer Mini for under $400 is preferred to a brand new M2M for $450

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    That brings back memories....
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    That brings back memories....
    Inelegant, but effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    That brings back memories....
    Do you find you need to engage the hammer action for light roasts?

    Cheers
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    Thanks all for your advice! I ended up snapping up a brand new M2M (chrome) for a decent price! Managed to also get a bottomless portafilter (used LaMarzocco one) from them for free so I can really start dialling in my shots. Went through a good half kilo of beans on Saturday night alone working different combinations but it's still a bit of a maze in terms of variables.

    I've read elsewhere about new grinders taking some time to 'run-in' before you start getting real consistency - can anyone speak to this? I'm currently using the WDT to try and minimise channeling, but I seem to be getting a bit of clumping coming out of the grinder. Any recommendations folks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesleyr87 View Post
    I've read elsewhere about new grinders taking some time to 'run-in' before you start getting real consistency - can anyone speak to this?
    It's not really a biggie - a brand new grinder will be a little finicky in responding to tiny adjustments early on, but they'll settle down after a while. I've never seen it as being a real problem - certainly not worth finding 60kg of stale beans to run through or anything!
    Just use and enjoy your great little grinder
    Matt
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    Ditto re: Matt's experience...

    Like many others here on CS, I've owned several new grinders over the years and yes, burr-sets sometimes need to wear the tooling edges off before the output can be considered consistent. But we're not talking huge differences here and certainly nowhere near different enough to cause significant differences between shots.

    No grinder I've owned has required more than half-a-dozen shots to dial-in to my espresso machine(s) and the problems you're experiencing may be related more to consistency of dosing and distribution than anything the grinder is doing. Have you considered attending one of several Home Barista Courses offered by any number of specialist retailers and particularly those offered by our Site Sponsors? They're worth their weight in gold for anyone starting off from scratch...

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    .... But we're not talking huge differences here and certainly nowhere near different enough to cause significant differences between shots.
    No grinder I've owned has required more than half-a-dozen shots to dial-in to my espresso machine(s) ....
    I'm on the same page Mal.
    I have also worked my way through a lot of grinders. If there is any "burr seasoning" period I haven't noticed it.
    ...and yes, it may take a few extra shots to tune in a new grinder.
    Cheers, Paul

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