Results 1 to 11 of 11
Like Tree6Likes
  • 1 Post By Jono_Willmer
  • 1 Post By Casa Espresso
  • 2 Post By level3ninja
  • 1 Post By matth3wh
  • 1 Post By level3ninja

Thread: San Marco SM92

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Posts
    2

    Grinder selection for a new coffe shop

    Hi there,

    I am looking for an espresso grinder for my new coffe shop. Our capacity is around 80 double espresso/day.

    Honestly I don't have a big budget so I am looking for a decent one.

    I live in Turkey and I dont have wide options. Actually my options are below. If you can help me to choose one I would be glad.

    1) Eureka Atom (First hand - Price: 740)
    2) Rocket Fausto (First hand - Price: Price: 885)
    3) Sanremo SR70 (Fiorenzato F64E) (Second hand - 8 months old - Price: 610)
    4) San Marco SM92 (Second hand - 2,5 years old - Price: 490)



    edit note: I opened the topic to ask San Marco grinder is good or not then I decided to ask all my options.
    Last edited by oualalaradime; 4th September 2017 at 05:50 AM.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Jono_Willmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    356

    San Marco SM92

    The Eureka Atom is a great grinder, but it's fairly slow and doesn't have a portafilter holder(edit it does, I forgot as my dad uses it with a tumbler and has removed it) so you would be waiting around for the grinder in a busy cafe, unless you grind into a vessel of some kind. The other grinders I've not used personally, but I think that the Rocket would be similar in speed. The others I know nothing about.
    Last edited by Jono_Willmer; 4th September 2017 at 07:46 AM.
    oualalaradime likes this.

  3. #3
    Site Sponsor Casa Espresso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    506
    Quote Originally Posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
    The Eureka Atom is a great grinder, but it's fairly slow and doesn't have a portafilter holder so you would be waiting around for the grinder in a busy cafe, unless you grind into a vessel of some kind. The other grinders I've not used personally, but I think that the Rocket would be similar in speed. The others I know nothing about.
    We get 8.5 to 9 seconds for a 20gr double on the ATOM. I wouldn't consider that slow but relative to other larger commercial grinders it may seem so.

    I think you will find it have does a porta filter holder.

    Agreed on the Rocket, it is very similar in performance and size to the ATOM, some styling ques on the Fausto might give you a clue as to who the manufacturer is....

    Cheers

    Antony
    www.casaespresso.com.au
    Last edited by Casa Espresso; 4th September 2017 at 07:26 AM.
    oualalaradime likes this.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Jono_Willmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    356

    San Marco SM92

    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    We get 8.5 to 9 seconds for a 20gr double on the ATOM. I wouldn't consider that slow but relative to other larger commercial grinders it may seem so.

    I think you will find it have does a porta filter holder.

    Agreed on the Rocket, it is very similar in performance and size to the ATOM, some styling ques on the Fausto might give you a clue as to who the manufacturer is....

    Cheers

    Antony
    www.casaespresso.com.au
    I forget it has that flimsy thin fork doesn't it, I'm wrong sorry. It's slow!

  5. #5
    Senior Member level3ninja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Casula, NSW
    Posts
    530
    I use the SM92 every week at church. We have a second hand 2 group 85E machine and second hand SM92 grinder (that came with new burrs). The SM92 is consistent and reliable. The only thing about it that annoys me is the doser, I would prefer doserless. Other than that we regularly make around 50 coffees in the first hour after church. The grinder is never the slow part of the process. It does have a stepped burr adjustment, but the steps are reasonably small and I find that in order to fine tune the pour I just adjust my tamp pressure slightly.

    You need to decide if the doser is an issue. If it's less of an issue than the cost the SM92 will serve you well for a long time. I don't know anything about the SR70 but if the doser would be a problem for you I'd go with that given the price.
    Dimal and matth3wh like this.

  6. #6
    Mal Dimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Warwick, QLD
    Posts
    15,502
    Used to have an SM-90A...
    Was a great grinder and I thought that the Doser was the best I've ever used.
    Using it in a 'free-dosing' mode, not a single granule of ground coffee was left behind...

    Mal.

  7. #7
    Senior Member matth3wh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Mid North Coast NSW
    Posts
    765
    My SM 95/A is sitting on decaf duties at the moment. Waiting for me to take it back to metal and paint it black. Still going long after the cafe I collected it from had discarded it for a new "freebie" deal.
    Like your experience Mal, it has a very clean doser. If I can be bothered doing an arduino timer mod on it then it will be a an extra sweet "backup" grinder for me. Stepped adjustment is solid but I like the extra adjustability I now have. In saying that it can also be great to jump between a range of settings if you need that.

    My Atom now has 730 double shots on the clock. Still love the hands free. The PF holder forks work fine for me. Currently on about 10-12 sec 18-19g dose and that is no big deal. Even pumping out fairly continuous drinks for people in fund raiser scenarios and having a second portafilter at the ready to load up I find I have other things to attend to in between getting ready for the next shot.

    If you're strapped for cash you buy the best grinder you can afford at the time. Out of the OP's list and on a budget I'd been inclined towards Sanremo SR70 a.k.a. Fiorenzato F64E if it allows for solid hands free timed dose on demand as it appears to... The SM92 also comes in an instant/on-demand version. I reckon there's still good sense in a doser *for particular situations* although a lot probably would disagree. :-)
    Dimal likes this.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Jono_Willmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NSW
    Posts
    356
    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    My SM 95/A is sitting on decaf duties at the moment. Waiting for me to take it back to metal and paint it black. Still going long after the cafe I collected it from had discarded it for a new "freebie" deal.
    Like your experience Mal, it has a very clean doser. If I can be bothered doing an arduino timer mod on it then it will be a an extra sweet "backup" grinder for me. Stepped adjustment is solid but I like the extra adjustability I now have. In saying that it can also be great to jump between a range of settings if you need that.

    My Atom now has 730 double shots on the clock. Still love the hands free. The PF holder forks work fine for me. Currently on about 10-12 sec 18-19g dose and that is no big deal. Even pumping out fairly continuous drinks for people in fund raiser scenarios and having a second portafilter at the ready to load up I find I have other things to attend to in between getting ready for the next shot.

    If you're strapped for cash you buy the best grinder you can afford at the time. Out of the OP's list and on a budget I'd been inclined towards Sanremo SR70 a.k.a. Fiorenzato F64E if it allows for solid hands free timed dose on demand as it appears to... The SM92 also comes in an instant/on-demand version. I reckon there's still good sense in a doser *for particular situations* although a lot probably would disagree. :-)
    Do you use the Atom with a naked portafilter? I just found the fork annoying more than helpful when I used my dad's Atom, the fork kept going up inside the open part of the naked portafilter. I really like the grinder it makes nice fluffy clumpless grinds. The speed I experienced was identical to what you found. I think it's a great setup and I'd gladly have one as my main grinder.

  9. #9
    Senior Member level3ninja's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Casula, NSW
    Posts
    530
    Quote Originally Posted by matth3wh View Post
    Like your experience Mal, it has a very clean doser.
    Our SM92 at church has anything but a clean doser. It is refurbished though. Is there anything I can do to increase the efficacy of the doser arms?
    Last edited by level3ninja; 7th September 2017 at 08:54 PM.
    matth3wh likes this.

  10. #10
    Super Moderator Javaphile's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Earth!
    Posts
    14,194
    Two words: Sweeper Mod


    Java "" phile
    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

  11. #11
    Senior Member matth3wh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Mid North Coast NSW
    Posts
    765

    San Marco SM92

    Not sure if these pics help... or if these contribute to clean doser 🤣 but here ya go...

    I have an espresso / demitasse cup sitting on the middle doser stem.

    I have one sweeper vane in the doser chamber

    Last edited by matth3wh; 7th September 2017 at 08:29 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •