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    New Eureka Mignon Silent Range

    As I haven't read about it here before, Eureka announced a new Mignon Silent Range of grinders (3 models in total so far).

    Besides Silent Technology to reduce the grind noise and the Anti-Clumps & Electrostaticity System which prevents the formation of clumps and ensures dose consistency, the dimensions seem to have changed too. Compared to the current model (H*W*D: 165 mm*325 mm*110 mm at 4,6 kg), the new ones are a bit larger (H*W*D: 180 mm*350 mm*120 mm at 5,6 kg). Grind speed seems to also have gone up from 0,8-1,2 g/s to 1,2-1,6 for Espresso.

    I quite like the look of the new hopper too.

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    Are any of the sponsors looking to stock these? Sounds like a child of an Atom and current Mignon.
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    Be interesting to know if they've also sorted the reliability issues with the Mignon. I bought 3x Atoms for other people during a sale and the guy was telling me that the Atom is great, but they threw away a pallet of Mignon grinders because that was cheaper than dealing with all the warranty issues they would get from them. Sounds like they've incorporated some of the technology from the Atom so hopefully fixed that too.

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    New Eureka Mignon Silent Range

    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Be interesting to know if they've also sorted the reliability issues with the Mignon. I bought 3x Atoms for other people during a sale and the guy was telling me that the Atom is great, but they threw away a pallet of Mignon grinders because that was cheaper than dealing with all the warranty issues they would get from them. Sounds like they've incorporated some of the technology from the Atom so hopefully fixed that too.
    I think you will find those reliability issues quoted by the company you purchased the ATOMs from were very much overstated .
    Also they didn’t “throw away “ a pallet of Mignons, although I have no doubt that is what they told you.
    What did happen is they lost distribution of the Eureka range.
    I will let you come to your own conclusion why they were doing a fire sale on the ATOMs and also making those comments about the Mignon .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzy View Post
    Are any of the sponsors looking to stock these? Sounds like a child of an Atom and current Mignon.
    Yes we will have them along with two new ATOM models that will have larger burrs and some other additional features.

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    Interesting. Always pays to hear the other perspective!
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    2 programmable doses! Ugh, I recently bought a Mignon and that was one feature that I ended up foregoing...

    Having said that, one of the reasons I went for the grinder was the fact that it has less (zero?) electronics so I can't complain too loudly.

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    I've had my Mignon for 8 months and put around 10-12kg of coffee through it and it's been solid. The wire connection to micro switch on the front that activates the grinder could be better or have longer wire as would be easy to break while cleaning the grind path / chuite
    Holds a little bit of grinds (1.5-2.0 grams) but as I single dose and weigh dose I just tilt the grind forward and it all comes out.
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    I'd tend to agree with Antony as I was told the opposite (that the Mignon was great and solid little unit) when I brought my Mignon from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mb21 View Post
    I've had my Mignon for 8 months and put around 10-12kg of coffee through it and it's been solid. The wire connection to micro switch on the front that activates the grinder could be better or have longer wire as would be easy to break while cleaning the grind path / chuite
    Holds a little bit of grinds (1.5-2.0 grams) but as I single dose and weigh dose I just tilt the grind forward and it all comes out.
    Have you been removing the front plate by removing the screw under the badge, etc? I read about that process on https://coffeeforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=29841, looks like the front plate is not designed to be removed for cleaning and doing so can cause the solder connection on the switch to fail.

    Edit: typo, clarify.

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    Id prefer to pull the front plate off and carefully hold it or tape to side of grinder (wires aren't long enough to sit on the bench) so I can clean it out then pull the bottom burr out. Without doing so grounds are backed up in the anti static / declumping grind and caked around bottom burr assembly.
    I did try the semi flexible cleaning brushes (small pipe cleaner type thingo) but found I could get it fully clean
    Just make sure the two surfaces that met of top burr plate and grinder body and clean or they won't be square due to coffee grinds stuck in between them. I do love that when you take the top burr off to clean and put back together the grind setting doesn't change.
    if I'm doing it wrong someone please let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by level3ninja View Post
    Be interesting to know if they've also sorted the reliability issues with the Mignon. I bought 3x Atoms for other people during a sale and the guy was telling me that the Atom is great, but they threw away a pallet of Mignon grinders because that was cheaper than dealing with all the warranty issues they would get from them. Sounds like they've incorporated some of the technology from the Atom so hopefully fixed that too.
    I'd be interested to know what these unspecified reliabability issues are.
    Had my Mignon for over 3 years now without any issues. For it's size, it's built like a tank, no fuss, rock solid, just does what it's designed to do day after day.
    I'm 100% sold on the Eureka brand, so much so, that I recently upgraded to the ATOM ( thanks Antony). Not because I am not satisfied with the Mignon, just finally succumbed to upgraditis
    As for my Mignon, it's not going anywhere soon. It's a keeper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewster View Post
    I'd be interested to know what these unspecified reliabability issues are.
    Had my Mignon for over 3 years now without any issues. For it's size, it's built like a tank, no fuss, rock solid, just does what it's designed to do day after day.
    I'm 100% sold on the Eureka brand, so much so, that I recently upgraded to the ATOM ( thanks Antony). Not because I am not satisfied with the Mignon, just finally succumbed to upgraditis
    As for my Mignon, it's not going anywhere soon. It's a keeper.


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    Thanks Mal

    its not a surprise that Eureka are being recognised as a great manufacturer.

    They have been producing great grinders for quite a few other companies (Mythos 1, Rocket Fausto) for a while now.

    As for those unspecified issues with the Mignon, i know that I and quite a few other CSs would have gladly taken the faulty Mignons off there hands, no questions asked, no warranty...

    Sometimes the BS meter goes into the red zone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezaw View Post
    2 programmable doses! Ugh, I recently bought a Mignon and that was one feature that I ended up foregoing...

    Having said that, one of the reasons I went for the grinder was the fact that it has less (zero?) electronics so I can't complain too loudly.
    There are three versions off the Mignon coming next year.

    Standard, which is much like the current version but with ATOM style silent technology
    Specialty with larger burrs and programmable display
    Perfecto larger burrs, display and easy set grind adjustment


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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    There are three versions off the Mignon coming next year.
    Hi Anthony, is there a rough date we can expect them? Price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzy View Post
    Hi Anthony, is there a rough date we can expect them? Price?
    Hi Dazzy,

    First order will be placed mid January after the holidays with arrival into Oz at the start of March.

    Pricing on the standard will be similar to the current pricing and then increasing for the two higher space models.

    We will be able to update in January

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    There are three versions off the Mignon coming next year.

    Standard, which is much like the current version but with ATOM style silent technology
    Specialty with larger burrs and programmable display
    Perfecto larger burrs, display and easy set grind adjustment

    Cheers

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    Other than speed, what change do you think the 55mm burrs could make compared to the 50mm ones? Will it impact on the flavor in the cup?

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    This has piqued my interest... I was recently fortunate to win a Macap M2M which I now have in my possession however have not yet had the chance to set it up & use it. I had been looking for an excuse to upgrade my Smart Grinder Pro so I'm not going to complain about the win, however there are some functions of the Breville that do appeal to me, namely the timer and my assumption that it is quieter than a flat-burr grinder. I've also read on here that single-dosing on the M2M could result in some inconsistency, which doesn't seem to affect the Breville.

    Before I run beans through the M2M I wouldn't mind some feedback on the Eureka option? The Silenzio does appear to possibly suit my needs better... We go through 1kg of beans about every three weeks on average primarily for espresso however I have started experimenting with cold brew so do need to go coarser around once a week. Any advice would be appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeHack View Post
    We go through 1kg of beans about every three weeks on average primarily for espresso however I have started experimenting with cold brew so do need to go coarser around once a week. Any advice would be appreciated!
    I've had a Breville SGP and now have a Mignon and I wouldn't say that the Mignon is louder, in fact it's it's probably the opposite. The Silenzio will surely improve on that. Having said that, I never ran them side by side as I got rid of the Breville before getting the Eureka.

    I would say that the Eureka is not a good choice for switching back and forth; being stepless, you will waste beans and time dialling it back in to espresso. The M2M or SGP would seem to be better suited to that usage pattern.
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    Great tip, something I hadn't thought too much about. It might be worth keeping the SGP for the cold brew...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeHack View Post
    Great tip, something I hadn't thought too much about. It might be worth keeping the SGP for the cold brew...
    Totally agree.
    My previous set up was Mignon for espresso, BSG for Aeropress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLW View Post
    Other than speed, what change do you think the 55mm burrs could make compared to the 50mm ones? Will it impact on the flavor in the cup?
    Speed only really. There is a slight relationship between speed and heat and that can effect flavour, but most likely not in this case

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    "Before I run beans through the M2M I wouldn't mind some feedback on the Eureka option? The Silenzio does appear to possibly suit my needs better... We go through 1kg of beans about every three weeks on average primarily for espresso however I have started experimenting with cold brew so do need to go coarser around once a week. Any advice would be appreciated![/QUOTE]"


    The new Mignon range wont be here until March.

    I would be opening up that M2M if I was you.

    Good point from Zeezaw as well the stepped adjustment make back and forth adjust a breeze.

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    Oh the decisions.... an atom, sette 270, or wait for the mignon to become silent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbosaurus View Post
    Oh the decisions.... an atom, sette 270, or wait for the mignon to become silent!
    Now that’s a first world problem !

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    maybe a middle-class first world problem. What I'd really love is to be deciding between a speedster and a GS3!

    Antony, do you do the Sette's?

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    I have a Eureka Mignon the older model with the time adjustment at the bottom. This last batch of beans I was adjusting the time to get the normal dose and ran out of adjustment. The run time does not seem a lot (perhaps 5-6 sconds) and it just stops and can't be lengthened. I can go to manual and grind the correct amount but that is a work-around.
    Is there any fix to get the timing back to normal?
    I only make a few cups a day so it should not wear much.
    I pulled the top burr off and cleaned out the burrs and they look fine.
    .

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    Should have timed the grind before posting, it actually runs for about 10.5 seconds at max time. Is this normal. It would be good to get one or two seconds more.

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    From memory that's the maximum and can't be extended, only option is to halve the grind time and do it in two goes.

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    Thank you yes I can go to manual control to get what I need or try a slightly coarser grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutfarmer View Post
    Should have timed the grind before posting, it actually runs for about 10.5 seconds at max time. Is this normal. It would be good to get one or two seconds more.
    12 to 13 seconds is the maximum programmable time on the Mignon

    Do as suggested by 3nija with two by separate doses.

    The new Eureka Mignon silent range is on track for arrival at the start of March.

    we will keep everyone posted

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    Doing some research on a new grinder and notice the Mignon (& Atom etc) will now come with ACE..... Anti-Clumps & Electrostaticity System.....which prevents the formation of clumps and ensures dose consistency.
    This implies the current range have a problem with dose and consistency yet the brand has a good following across the www.
    Does any-one know exactly what ACE is other than a marketing acronym?
    Can it be retrofitted to older model Mignons?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valvster View Post
    Doing some research on a new grinder and notice the Mignon (& Atom etc) will now come with ACE..... Anti-Clumps & Electrostaticity System.....which prevents the formation of clumps and ensures dose consistency.
    This implies the current range have a problem with dose and consistency yet the brand has a good following across the www.
    Does any-one know exactly what ACE is other than a marketing acronym?
    Can it be retrofitted to older model Mignons?


    Cheers...Valvster
    Hi Valvster,

    The Anti clumping and anti static system on the ATOM is very real, not just a marketing tool.

    Its centres around a declumping "tail" that hangs down the inside of the outlet. In a previous thread on the Atom one inquisitive CS member wanted to see what happened when the declumper was removed. The result? Static electricity coffee everywhere. he worded it quite well, somewhat amusing!

    The current Mignon doesn't have this, it something that is being introduced on the new model. Not something you could retro fit i would think.

    The new Mignons will be here in March, just in time for MICE.

    We will be able to release final pricing just before launch

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    Thanks Antony,
    only a few more sleeps to go, eagerly looking for comparisons with the usual suspects.
    Hoping to either bag a bargain with the old model or grab the new one if it's a definite upgrade.
    cheers....Valvster

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    Getting closer on the new Mignon silent range so i thought it would be a good time to confirm the model line up and specifications.

    There will be three models here. In price and specification order they will be:

    - Silenzio : 50mm burrs, ACE anti clump system, micrometric grind adjustment, timed analogue or manual grind adjustment (no digital display)
    - Specialita: 55mm burrs, ACE anti clumping, micrometric grind adjustment, touch screen digital display and programing
    - Perfetto : 50mm burrs, ACE anti clumping system, "Easy set" micrometric grind adjustment, touch screen digital display and programming

    Standard colours black and white, chrome an additional price premium.

    We will be in a position to release pricing in two weeks. Launch will be at MICE 22nd March with retail sales beginning immediately after that.

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    Hi Anthony,

    Thanks for the information. What makes the Perfetto more expensive than the Specialita? Given the specs look the same other than the burrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenko17 View Post
    Hi Anthony,

    Thanks for the information. What makes the Perfetto more expensive than the Specialita? Given the specs look the same other than the burrs.

    Cheers

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    Price difference is due to the different grind adjustment system.
    The Specialita has the standard system, the Perfetto has the new "easy setting" system.

    The price difference between these two models is minimal

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    These look great, I'm looking to upgrade from a Breville grinder soon. Is there a massive difference between one of the Mignon grinders compared to the Atom for home use? Will the Mignon suffice for something like the Rocket Appartamento?

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    Quote Originally Posted by narklord View Post
    These look great, I'm looking to upgrade from a Breville grinder soon. Is there a massive difference between one of the Mignon grinders compared to the Atom for home use? Will the Mignon suffice for something like the Rocket Appartamento?
    Hello Narklord,

    I wouldn't imagine there would be much difference at all in the cup between the two. The Atom will be slightly faster with the larger burrs, but grind quality, adjustment, anti clumping etc should all be the same.

    Certainly an ideal match for an Appartmento, for some maybe even better then an Atom due to its smaller size,

    We will be publishing pricing next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    Hello Narklord,

    I wouldn't imagine there would be much difference at all in the cup between the two. The Atom will be slightly faster with the larger burrs, but grind quality, adjustment, anti clumping etc should all be the same.

    Certainly an ideal match for an Appartmento, for some maybe even better then an Atom due to its smaller size,

    We will be publishing pricing next week

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    Hi, when would it be up for sale? =) or how soon can you take orders and deliver? Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxie View Post
    Hi, when would it be up for sale? =) or how soon can you take orders and deliver? Thx
    We will have them listed for sale next week after we release pricing.

    Orders can be taken with delivery at the end March / start April

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    Hi Anthony,

    Was just looking at your website and noticed you have the Silenzio listed (https://www.casaespresso.com.au/eureka-mignon-50e.html) but I am guessing this is still just the listening for the normal Mignon and you're still in the process of updating pricing on the new range for later this week?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaya View Post
    Hi Anthony,

    Was just looking at your website and noticed you have the Silenzio listed (https://www.casaespresso.com.au/eureka-mignon-50e.html) but I am guessing this is still just the listening for the normal Mignon and you're still in the process of updating pricing on the new range for later this week?

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    Hi Jaya,

    Yes you are right!

    We started to updated the website to reflect the new Mignon and didn't complete it.

    New pricing and model specs are now available and we will publish online the next 24 to 48 hours

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    Pricing and specs up online

    https://www.casaespresso.com.au/grin...st_order=price

    Pre orders are available with retail stock available end March/ start April

    Feel free to DM or call with any questions

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    Hi Antony,

    so does the new eureka Mignon (Perfetto) supersede the Atom? Or is it better or newer model?

    Sorry Im a bit confused with the hierarchy of the models. I have been looking at the atoms and would like to purchase soon, but if the mignon is a better model I will go for that. Other than looks what are key differences?

    Thanks.


    Oh BTW, if I place a pre order what is the ETA?

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    Hello Sten,

    No they are quite separate models.

    The Mignon is a smaller unit then the Atom with smaller burrs. It is aimed purely at the domestic market. If you have a look at the dimensions and weight you will note the differences

    https://www.casaespresso.com.au/eureka-atom.html
    https://www.casaespresso.com.au/eure...-perfetto.html

    The Atom is a semi commercial/top end domestic grinder. Much larger in size and has larger burrs with a faster grind time.

    Side by side there is quite a difference, as well as there being the price difference.

    Atoms are in stock for immediate delivery, the new Mignon will be available end of March/start of April.

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    hi Antony

    Perfect timing, my birthday is mid April, so I will; contact you to purchase.

    what is the best way, via PM here, or email?

    I make one coffee a day on my Bezera so I was thinking the perfetto would suit unless you think otherwise and I should chose the atom instead?



    Thanks

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    Hi Anthony,
    Had u had a change to try out the new mignon perfectto yet? How is in terms of adjusting from fine to coarse finess ? Would you feel that the perfectto is comparable with the atom? Can I drop by sometime in April to test both SILENZIO or perfectto before buying? Thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sten186 View Post
    hi Antony

    Perfect timing, my birthday is mid April, so I will; contact you to purchase.

    what is the best way, via PM here, or email?

    I make one coffee a day on my Bezera so I was thinking the perfetto would suit unless you think otherwise and I should chose the atom instead?



    Thanks
    PM here always works !

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    Hi Antony
    is the anti static / anti clump part able to be fitted to older Mignons?
    thanks

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