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Thread: Mazzer Robur upgrade

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    Mazzer Robur upgrade

    Hi Fellow Snobs,

    I have the opportunity to upgrade my Super Jolly (Doserless) to a Robur (Doser).

    I prefer the doserless look and functionality, but would also like the better grind the Robur is capable of, so I have 2 questions:

    1. How much of an upgrade would be going from the Super Jolly to a Robur?
    2. Is there any potential use the the doserless components from my Super Jolly (funnel, back plate etc) to make the Robur doserless - and make the Super Jolly the Doser?

    Unfortunately I don't think I could justify the bench space for both - otherwise I probably would!

    Appreciate any thoughts on either!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    1. How much of an upgrade would be going from the Super Jolly to a Robur?
    Probably not much, but a slightly different flavour profile. Couple of thoughts…
    – I've found flat burrs can give richer white coffees (I miss this a little) - but I do like the clarity of the big conical for espresso. What are your main drinks of choice?
    – Roburs are huge - a lot bigger than the jolly.
    – If you are single dosing it, there will be no difference in speed. Fully loaded, mine will give 3.5sec doubles. Single dosed - probably 10sec?
    – If you're not single dosing - massive grind retention. Think 4-5 doubles before you really see grind adjustments.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    2. Is there any potential use the the doserless components from my Super Jolly (funnel, back plate etc) to make the Robur doserless - and make the Super Jolly the Doser?
    Not sure

    All that may or may not be what you're after!
    Roburs are great grinders - but they're no silver bullet

    Cheers Matt

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    Thanks Matt.

    I always single dose so the speed (10 sec vs maybe 20 on the SJ) is no big deal after weighing etc which takes a lot more time.

    Typical morning would be 1 latte followed by a either an espresso or machiatto and same for the wife.

    I lean toward the no if there isn't a huge improvement in consistency in grind (or better flavour).

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    I upgraded to the Robur so I could grind the occasional bag for friends (which I still do) - it was taking 20mins on the old grinder! But if I had not been doing that all, I would have most likely stuck with the M4

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    I think it is a case of novelty. I had a good grinder the M4D then got the Robur.

    I like the Doser on the Robur and the quick grind times of 4 seconds.

    I have no single dosing desires. It seems one step too far in search of perfection.

    I love the Robur, it is an ultimate machine. Very easy to live with as it is also very quiet but dead easy to strip and clean also.

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