What would be your budget limit?
I'm new here so please be gentle :-)
I have the handground, two months old, for espresso only (I had to install the two shims for finer grinding to keep the la pavoni happy)
Problem with adding the shims is that the small burrs wear faster and to grind 12g takes over 5 minutes. I estimate I have ground about 1.5kg and the burrs are worn enough that the la pavoni is not happy anymore. Changing burrs every two months is not going to happen especially on the fiddly handground.
Can somebody please recommend a hand grinder for la pavoni espresso that will last a decent amount of time doing 25g of grinding a day?
A massive grinder will not have WAF, bench space is limited.
Thanks, around A$300.
Check out the OE LIDO picked one up under 300 the other day
Second the Lido. Great espresso grinder, and built like a tank
Third the Lido. It's exactly your budget, and grinds like a big grinder.
I have a lido 2, but would recommend the "e" (for espresso) version as you said espresso only, and the Pavoni can be a cruel mistress.
the e version allows for easier fine adjustment, which is - for me - the only slightly tricky thing about this grinder.
Having been burned by the handgrind, I'm concerned about burr lifetime.
How long should the Lido burrs last doing 10kg of espresso a year?
Has anyone had Lido burrs wear down enough to cause issues with a lever espresso machine?
Can you buy replacement burrs, a quick search doesn't turn any lido burrs for sale?
Perhaps someone can provide technical evidence, but my experience has probably been to put about 15 kg through. Absolutely no sign of slowing down.
Not sure about changing burrs.
I know Casa espresso sell them if you're in Melbourne
About your Lido 2 Manual Coffee Grinder
.How long will the burrs last?
As far as we know, and from seeing some hand grinders well over 100 years old and still grinding well, you will likely never have to change the burr due to wear in a normal pattern of usage
I canít imagine wearing out burrs in a hand grinder. That would be a LOT of grinding. Probably more likely to wear out your arms!!
Aergrind is worth considering. It grinds 20g espresso easily and fast.
The Italmill burr set used in the Aergrind is also put through an additional case hardening process by the Aergrind maker to make them "up to 85% tougher than stainless steel for rustproof durability......and to improve grind quality". The same process is used on the larger bodied Feld 2 if you were looking for something with a bit more heft. However, I also have a Lido 3 and find the ergonomics of the Aergrind comparable with larger bodied hand grinders. If you are into lighter roasts any hand grinder might be little more challenging depending on your physique.
Thanks everyone, I ordered the Lido E.
Well I wore the burrs on the HG for sure, HG say this online:
”The burrs should last for a couple years with normal use. Although they will wear down faster if you are grinding for espresso often. We are arranging to have extra sets of burrs produced in the production run that is going on right now and will have them available to order through our website."
In my experience using the HG just for espresso (two shims installed) it wears the burrs out at 10x!
When you first install the shims the burrs rub a bit and I reckon this rubbing wears the burrs rapidly which "undoes" the finer grind after a couple of kg of beans.
BTW I'm loving roasting my own beans with the $30 Sunbeam popcorn popper!
The handground uses ceramic burrs so that wears out much faster than harden steel burrs in more premium hand grinders recommended many others above. Steel burrs are also more aggressive so that will help with the grinding times. I can't imagine taking 5 mins to grind each shot along, especially when trying dailing in for a new bean!
I think you will also be much happier with the results coming out of the Lido for your La Pavoni. I have been using 2nd hand hand grinders Helor 101 ( 2-3 year old), Rosco (6 yo) without any problems for my La Pavoni. Typically it takes me around 45s - 90s to grind 15g depending on the beans.
Wow the Lido E is awesome, it takes me about 30 seconds to grind 12 grams, thanks everyone.