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    Newbie Query

    Hi all,

    I'm new to this forum, and thought the best place to ask this question was probably the home roasting section.

    Basically I want to start out my coffee journey with the comfort of knowing I can order coffee both within and outside of Australia, and without any major hassles, scream-ups, or complications. Making local orders ins't a problem, because you have the option of it being delivered already roasted. Making international orders, however, is problematic.

    The reason being: if I place an international order, the coffee will be delivered unroasted/green. Given I have zero interest in taking up home roasting, would it be possible to come to a personal arrangement with either 1) a commercial/on-site cafe roaster, or 2) a seasoned, professional home roaster?

    In other words, I order green beans from overseas and pay someone who knows what they're doing to roast them for me. Also, some of these beans will be decaf, and I believe decaf is a nuisance for even the most experienced roasters.

    Any advice would be appreciated!

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    I'm sure someone here will roast for you, but what is your reasoning for wanting to order internationally? There are plenty of great coffees available in Australia.

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    if I place an international order, the coffee will be delivered unroasted/green
    ...only if you purchase an import permit for each country of origin, otherwise quarantine will just destroy it.

    I suggest you buy locally roasted if you don't want to learn to roast... and if you do want to roast then source local green beans too. Cross border green beans is a complicated business.

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    Hi guys, thanks for the advice.

    ...what is your reasoning for wanting to order internationally? There are plenty of great coffees available in Australia.
    David - indeed there are. But isn't that also a bit like saying "Why would you bother going to Italy when Bali is around the corner?" There are several overseas cafe-roasters I have heard and read good things about (Square Mile, Espresso Vivace, Stumptown, etc.), and whose beans I have been curious to sample.

    I just like to keep my options open, but I promise you - there are plenty of Australian roasters I'm keen to try first.

    ...only if you purchase an import permit for each country of origin, otherwise quarantine will just destroy it.
    Well Andy - screw that, then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalthazarG View Post
    Hi guys, thanks for the advice.



    David - indeed there are. But isn't that also a bit like saying "Why would you bother going to Italy when Bali is around the corner?" There are several overseas cafe-roasters I have heard and read good things about (Square Mile, Espresso Vivace, Stumptown, etc.), and whose beans I have been curious to sample.
    Square Mile beans are pleasant enough (I finished a coffee based on them 10 minutes ago), but you will not be missing out on anything if you stick to local beans by reputable roasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Square Mile beans are pleasant enough (I finished a coffee based on them 10 minutes ago), but you will not be missing out on anything if you stick to local beans by reputable roasters.
    Case closed, then. Besides, if I'm investing good money in a first class machine and grinder, "pleasant enough" just isn't going to cut it.

    Barry, who are some of your favourite reputable roasters? I know it comes down to personal taste, but I'm keen to draw up a list of sorts to kick things off.

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    If you tell us where you are located that might help with recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFreddofrog View Post
    If you tell us where you are located that might help with recommendations.
    I live in Perth, although don't seen why ordering from an interstate roaster would be a problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalthazarG View Post
    I live in Perth, although don't seen why ordering from an interstate roaster would be a problem?
    It isn't but if you want to work with a "seasoned home roaster" you are better off working with someone local otherwise freight costs will be against you.

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    Apart from the Perth based CS sponsors that are roasters and even do tasting sessions and would be my first port of call, there are also a range of reputable roasters in the Perth area and I dare say that there may be a few Sandgroper CSers that would be more than willing to lend a hand and get a second or third etc etc... opinion of their home roasts. So many local Perth options, the world is a coffee roaster.

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    Start by buying beans from cafes you like here in Perth. Easy.

    if you want something from the East, just order it.
    But there's plenty of good options here in Perth from large establishments down to small.
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    Start by buying beans from cafes you like here in Perth. Easy.
    Haha I wish it were that easy! You're talking to a guy who never goes to cafes (sigh). Oh well, them's the breaks.

    I guess this leaves only one option remaining: google every single cafe and roaster in Perth; knock them off one by one. Rinse and repeat for NSW. Then Melbourne. Then Qld....ad infinitum.

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    what part of Perth are you in BalthazarG??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalthazarG View Post
    Haha I wish it were that easy! You're talking to a guy who never goes to cafes (sigh). Oh well, them's the breaks.

    I guess this leaves only one option remaining: google every single cafe and roaster in Perth; knock them off one by one. Rinse and repeat for NSW. Then Melbourne. Then Qld....ad infinitum.

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    You may save some time by looking in here:

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    what part of Perth are you in BalthazarG??
    Hi greenman. I'm in the western suburbs, although I intend to order online a lot so I don't have to limit myself to the nearby cafes. Anyway, this should get me going. You might even find something in there you like:

    https://www.theurbanlist.com/perth/a...hs-best-coffee
    https://www.theurbanlist.com/perth/a...hs-best-coffee

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    Mike,

    Apologies for replying here, but you sent me a PM asking some questions and unfortunately I am one of a few old timey members who cannot reply to PM's. I have now gone and de-activated the function totally.

    Anyhow, you were asking about an old thread where I talked of importing coffee.
    My experience was only related to bringing home 5kg or under of green coffee myself.
    Back when I did it, the hardest thing was finding out what the actual requirements were.
    In 2008, it was done through AQIS and I think the permit cost around $40.
    Coming home, I declared the beans and showed the permit and confused the hell out of a few customs officers. It seems none of them had ever seen that scenario before.
    No duty or GST charged (raw product, so GST wouldn't be applicable anyhow I would think).

    Most importantly, my permit was NOT an import permit along the lines of what Andy speaks of. Of them I know nothing, but I would venture a guess that unless you have quite a bit of cash to burn, or you are looking at making it a business, it is probably not worth the effort.

    Hope that helps.

    Brett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalthazarG View Post
    Hi greenman. I'm in the western suburbs, although I intend to order online a lot so I don't have to limit myself to the nearby cafes. Anyway, this should get me going. You might even find something in there you like:

    https://www.theurbanlist.com/perth/a...hs-best-coffee
    https://www.theurbanlist.com/perth/a...hs-best-coffee

    Number 4 first link......... Jac and the bean. 8 oz coffee $2.50!!!!!!!!! I'm guessing those are current prices - May 2016

    I'm getting ripped off at $5.50. My wife pays $6.10 for a double shot. Grrr. It's a luxury at that price.

    Most here are $4 to $4.50 although there is the occasional $3 something coffee around the place.

    A home espresso machine is looking more likely all the time. The stovetop just doesn't do the job for us.
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    Apologies for replying here, but you sent me a PM asking some questions and unfortunately I am one of a few old timey members who cannot reply to PM's. I have now gone and de-activated the function totally.
    No problem Brett, thanks for getting back to me. By the way, nifty idea about deactivating your PM function. Some time ago I deactivated the voice mail on my phone, and my life's been much less stressful ever since.

    ...unless you have quite a bit of cash to burn, or you are looking at making it a business, it is probably not worth the effort.
    I figured as much.

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