View Poll Results: Would you be interested in a universal fit BBQ roasting starter kit?

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Thread: BBQ bean roasting starter kit - STRAW POLL

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    Question BBQ bean roasting starter kit - STRAW POLL

    Hi all. After I posted this thread, I thought about the amount of stuffing around it took to get a working setup, so I was curious whether there would be some sort of a market for a universal kit that could fit a large range of BBQ rotisseries at a reasonable price. I know RK Drums in the USA does a kit but it seems pretty pricey to me, especially if you want to import one to Australia. It also seems to be targetted towards larger batches whereas I like doing small (sub 500g) batches to cater for the amount we drink at home. I'd be targetting a complete kit in the $100-$200 range, depending on the options. The motor would run at around 60 RPM and comply to Australian Standards and be properly finished, of course, unlike my hacked DIY job in the linked thread.

    As a rough straw poll, what do you folks think about such an idea? What features would you like to see?

    My initial thoughts are:

    PHASE 1 KIT
    * Develop an adjustable, universal motor assembly that can be attached to existing BBQ rotisseries. May require some sort of optional bracket that could be mounted and fixed to a BBQ side table, I'm thinking, to cater for a wider range of rotisseries. There seems to be a common setup with a lot of the motors available that looks something like this. Hard to know how universal the fitting might be among the different brands, which is why I reckon a bracket option would be needed.
    * Develop a drum that can be fitted to most rotisserie shafts (6mm and 8mm?).

    FUTURE ENHANCEMENTS
    * Add some capability to measure temp at the beans.
    * Offer different size drums.
    * Offer shafts for various size BBQs, so you can have a dedicated shaft for your roasting drum.
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    Hmmm, I don't think it's a dud idea, however in my opinion would have very limited market appeal, already a couple of very successful low cost roasting options available, KKTO and Coretto, both pretty easy to set up and produce excellent results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Hmmm, I don't think it's a dud idea, however in my opinion would have very limited market appeal, already a couple of very successful low cost roasting options available, KKTO and Coretto, both pretty easy to set up and produce excellent results.
    Thanks for your feedback and kicking off proceedings, Yelta.

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    Not a single vote. Didn't expect complete ambivalence. Have to think of a better way to test the idea.

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    I've been BBQ roasting for around 13 years now and I enjoy it a lot.
    You are correct in saying RK drums does a kit, but their motor is 110v which has stopped me from obtaining one. And yes they are a bit pricey to get over to AU.
    The thing about the USA is that even a niche market can sustain a few small businesses.
    I don't think there would be enough interest here to make it worthwhile.
    However, if you do go ahead, I'd be interested to see what motor you could come up with to handle a 2kg load and do 60rpm. I currently use a wiper motor from an old Ford Escort.

    Good luck.

    Brett.

    <edit> Here is my setup if you want to look: BBQ roaster - general info
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    I'm not sure how broad the appeal might be - as Yelta mentioned, there are already some options for the more hack-minded, as well as some relatively low-cost commercial products for people who want something off-the-shelf.

    But if you do go ahead, I'll be your first customer! Too lazy to put together a corretto, too much of a tightarse to buy something - maybe it's not such a tiny market after all?
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    I'd start by trying to estimate the size of the Australia home coffee roasting market. I can't imagine it's that big....it seems a pretty tough call to launch such a product here, particularly give the very fair points raised above. Even if you offshore all the manufacturing.....what sort of a production run are you going to be able to ask for?
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    Thanks Yelta, Brett, Matt and Barry for the feedback. I agree with you all, having reflected on it a bit myself. Australia is a tiny market and the volumes would unlikely justify getting a production run of any worthwhile size. I'm going to make some inquiries with manufacturers just for the hell of it to see how hard it would be to get a 60RPM motor manufactured. That's the critical component. The other bits are easier to deal with. I'll update as I learn anything useful.
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    Seems to be a few options of DIY and commercial built options in the 100g to 700g roasting range. Be nice to see if a 1-2kg kit option was viable BBQ style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrizz View Post
    to see how hard it would be to get a 60RPM motor manufactured.
    Would probably be more economical to couple a suitable motor to a gearbox that gives you the desired torque at 60rpm.

    Mal.
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    Following on from Mal's suggestion, an alternative to complete kits would be to sell plans including where to buy motor and gearbox, and 3D printed custom parts - at lower cost as the customer would source the generic parts themselves. Very little upfront cost for you that way so lower risk, but you've still done the hard work for the customer.
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    Personally, I think to sell well your unit must be really easy to set up and taken out (when people want to use their bbq) and low price as well (below $250 maybe?). Otherwise, people will buy the behmor home roaster instead since it is a separate machine and people don't have the feeling that their roaster is DIY.
    As for your idea, I think it will sell better in US instead of AU, our market is a bit small I guess. Good luck with your business adventure, I hope my opinion from a customer's point of view can somewhat help you

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    I have been looking into modifying a rotisserie FOR MY Weber BBQ, I believe a basket can be purchased to attached to this? Not sure is the rotisseries would have a high enough RPM though? has anyone tried this?

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    Some of the earlier posts touch on this I think. Like to do something but then need to have time to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiboldor View Post
    I have been looking into modifying a rotisserie FOR MY Weber BBQ, I believe a basket can be purchased to attached to this? Not sure is the rotisseries would have a high enough RPM though? has anyone tried this?
    Did you read my thread here?
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    Thank that's exactly what I was looking for, no idea why I couldn't find it when I searched. Are you still using this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiboldor View Post
    Thank that's exactly what I was looking for, no idea why I couldn't find it when I searched. Are you still using this?
    Yep, sure am! I've even progressed beyond single origins to doing my own blends. I also built a funky bean cooler to go with it, based on some intrepid designs by other CSers. I bought some Campos beans last week and the official in-house tester (aka wife) prefers my beans! So based on a sample size of 1, I'm onto a winner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrizz View Post
    Yep, sure am! I've even progressed beyond single origins to doing my own blends. I also built a funky bean cooler to go with it, based on some intrepid designs by other CSers. I bought some Campos beans last week and the official in-house tester (aka wife) prefers my beans! So based on a sample size of 1, I'm onto a winner!
    Awesome, You have officially inspired me!

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    Not a single vote. Didn't expect complete ambivalence. Have to think of a better way to test the idea.
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