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    Question Milk that doesn’t froth

    I am not sure if anyone has an experience that matches this since this is in South Africa – but if someone does it could be interesting for others.

    A particular brand of milk, the biggest in South Africa, a few months ago stopped holding a froth – no matter what I did with my machine, it stayed flat. At first I thought the supermarket may have been breaking the cold chain and tried the same brand from a different supermarket with the same effect. The first supermarket also has a house brand that had the same problem (the source is not labelled but it is plausible that it’s from the same producer as the other brand that fails). Other brands of milk work just fine, so it’s not me or my machine.

    Any ideas on what could be causing milk to fail to froth? (Fat % is the same on all types I tried, and freshness does not appear to be a factor.)

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    Could be what the cows are eating. Happens in Australia every now and then as well
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    Could be that…

    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Could be what the cows are eating. Happens in Australia every now and then as well
    Thanks.

    Someone suggested that to me here as well – any ideas what could change this? Something seasonal e.g.?

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    The nutritional content of their graze changes with the seasons, more rain, less rain, etc.


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    Yep, happens in Australia during a couple of the dryer months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep, happens in Australia during a couple of the dryer months.
    And we hates it!! Especially in the cafe when we simply have to send milk back to the dairy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwcalder05 View Post
    And we hates it!! Especially in the cafe when we simply have to send milk back to the dairy.
    Can understand your frustration, as a home barista! just an inconvenience, trying to run a cafe, dodgy milk wouldn't enhance your reputation.

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    Little bit of cream in the jug used to fix it for me
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    ^What he said. Our quality of milk varies here in Sri Lanka too. That long life stuff always seems to froth though it does taste pretty bad.

    Cold brew time?

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    That's a relief to hear it's a common thing (although a little annoying). I thought that I'd lost my touch the past week or so, had no idea why I couldn't texture properly. Been using Aldi milk the past few months and it's been fine up until this week. The past few days though I've been using Pura and the milk has come out really bubbly, almost as if it were carbonated like a soft drink. Big bubbles which kept coming to the surface. Was really strange, never seen it before.

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    Winter / wet months green grass= more creamy milk
    warmer months fed more on hay= less creamy milk

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    Interesting article here about milk and foaming properties. http://www.jimseven.com/2006/12/16/w...-my-milk-foam/ I was under the impression that it's protien and the lack of it not fat that affects the foam-ability, this writer seems to be of the same opinion.
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    I have found the worst for this is the Woolworths standard milk, cant get a decent froth. But i never have a problem with the Coles brand milk so there must be some differences between them
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettreaby View Post
    I have found the worst for this is the Woolworths standard milk, cant get a decent froth. But i never have a problem with the Coles brand milk so there must be some differences between them
    Odd. I've found Ww best out of all the big brands in consistency and not having any funky flavours. Not noticed any issues with frothing and that's with a small wimpy boiler (Via Venezia)
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    I find that brand is irrelevant; more important is that it has the maximum use by date. I will not buy with less than 10 days, on fresh full cream milk, and it stretches and foams excellently - regardless of brand.
    -cafelazio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettreaby View Post
    I have found the worst for this is the Woolworths standard milk, cant get a decent froth. But i never have a problem with the Coles brand milk so there must be some differences between them
    Interesting, we only have Woolworths in our area, have had no problem with stretching their home brand milk, other than the seasonal issues most of us are aware of.
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    Interesting for me as well: in fact it was over a year ago I came to this conclusion and avoided the WW product. might be time to get some and see if I still have the same issues.

    Just accidentally bought some a2 Lite: I do know for sure that for me the Lite stuff of any brand doesn't do it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Interesting, we only have Woolworths in our area, have had no problem with stretching their home brand milk, other than the seasonal issues most of us are aware of.

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    Milk that doesn’t froth

    Quote Originally Posted by cafelazio View Post
    I find that brand is irrelevant; more important is that it has the maximum use by date. I will not buy with less than 10 days, on fresh full cream milk, and it stretches and foams excellently - regardless of brand.
    -cafelazio.
    That could be it. I usually buy use by +14 days.
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    For the first time I am trying the new Cold Pressed Raw Milk Made By Cow.

    It is full cream raw milk from Jersey cows at Berry NSW. It contains a huge 5.1 % butter fat. Dairy Farmers Full Cream milk has 3.4%.

    It is not heat pasteurised or homogenised. Just treated with cold high pressure to make it safe.

    Now available in all states of Australia.

    I like it and it does froth.

    It is costly at $6.65 per litre.

    I don't use a lot of milk as I am somewhat lactose intolerant. I drink macchiatos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
    For the first time I am trying the new Cold Pressed Raw Milk Made By Cow.

    It is full cream raw milk from Jersey cows at Berry NSW. It conntgains a huge 5.1 % fat.

    It is not heat pasteurised or homogenised. Just treated with cold high pressure to make it safe.

    Now available in all states of Australia.

    I like it and it does froth.

    It is costly at $6.65 per litre.

    I don't use a lot of milk as I am somewhat lactose intolerant. I drink macchiatos
    Hi Barry, you should try raw milk that is A2, my daughter is lactose intolerant as well and she can drink the A2 raw cows milk no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry_Duncan View Post
    For the first time I am trying the new Cold Pressed Raw Milk Made By Cow.

    It is full cream raw milk from Jersey cows at Berry NSW. It contains a huge 5.1 % butter fat. Dairy Farmers Full Cream milk has 3.4%.

    It is not heat pasteurised or homogenised. Just treated with cold high pressure to make it safe.

    Now available in all states of Australia.

    I like it and it does froth.

    It is costly at $6.65 per litre.

    I don't use a lot of milk as I am somewhat lactose intolerant. I drink macchiatos
    More info would be welcome. Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.
    I was hoping they could overcome the silly laws we have in relation to raw milk.

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