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    Expensive hobbies.

    We often discuss the high price of quality espresso machines, grinders etc, compared to audio equipment we're only beginners.

    Just found this list of ten most expensive turntables, starting price $19,000, top of the list $300,000.

    The pic below is of a mid range job, only $125,000 "weight 770 pounds"

    Link to full list Ten Most Expensive Turntables - MusicStack's Guide to Collecting Vinyl Records

    Clearaudio
    Price: US $125,000


    The pertinently named Statement is a $125,000 assembly of wood, aluminum, and other sundry bits that has only one endeavor, to play records, and play them outstandingly well. Weighing 770 pounds, the Statement derives its rotational motivation from the same type of electric motor used to propel the Mars Rover. It touts a patented magnetic driven sub platter, dynamic balanced platters, Kardan turntable chassis suspension, real time speed control and active blue LCD display.




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    I love audio and there's nothing sweeter than a turntable, a piece of analog recorded vinyl, a plain Amplifier and a pair of speakers......pure sound, just the way the artist recorded it.

    My gear is all old and far from expensive......especially compared to this stuff but it still moves my soul.

    Photography is another expensive hobby.
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    That's a spectacular looking thing.
    I can see no good reason to go back to Vinyl however.
    Audiophiles can be as esoteric as Coffee Snobs, Oenophiles or Horologists.
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    Prefer to think of myself as an AudioSnob, in the same vein as we lovers of great coffee...
    Never been an Audiophile, heaven forbid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    That's a spectacular looking thing.
    I can see no good reason to go back to Vinyl however.
    Audiophiles can be as esoteric as Coffee Snobs, Oenophiles or Horologists.
    I'm not going back Rocky, have never removed my turntable from the system.

    Still have quite a collection of vinyl, then a few years back inherited my brothers collection.

    The debate continues, vinyl aficionados claim more warmth "Vinyl is the only consumer playback format we have that's fully analog and fully lossless," Gonsalves said. "You just need a decent turntable with a decent needle on it and you're going to enjoy a full-fidelity listening experience. It's a little bit more idiot-proof and a little bit less technical."

    Having said these thing, I simply don't use it very often, take the easy route and play either music from the PC or CD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    That's a spectacular looking thing.
    I can see no good reason to go back to Vinyl however.
    Audiophiles can be as esoteric as Coffee Snobs, Oenophiles or Horologists.

    Many people think that way, however if you were to play a CD with the same track as a well recorded vinyl on a decent turntable you would hear the warmth of the vinyl and think you were listening to cd, but he wrong.

    I use to do this experiment with people using Analog recorded Fleetwood Mac/Van Morrison/Cat Stevens etc and their CD Version......never failed.

    Vinyl is making a huge comeback too.

    My favourite possession is my Linn turntable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Prefer to think of myself as an AudioSnob, in the same vein as we lovers of great coffee...
    Never been an Audiophile, heaven forbid...

    Mal.
    Not sure I'm either Mal, just enjoy good music (from my choice of era) played on decent equipment, or better still, live.
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    Too funny......I was posting as Yelta was typing and I said what he said I would say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post

    Vinyl is making a huge comeback too.

    My favourite possession is my Linn turntable.
    Yep they tell me vinyl is having a revival, have yet to go searching for new albums.

    Linn Sondek were a legendary name during the 1970's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep they tell me vinyl is having a revival, have yet to go searching for new albums.

    Linn Sondek were a legendary name during the 1970's.

    The legend lives on Sir......I ask to be hurried with mine

    They don't recall depreciate much......probably worth 80% of what I paid for it way back then. I couldn't afford to buy one now, that's for sure.

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    Real expensive hobbies are anything that Flys,Floats or F*#+s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    Real expensive hobbies are anything that Flys,Floats or F*#+s.
    That cracks me up, & reminds me of the old line "if it's got t**$ or tyres, it'll give you trouble". And I'm sure there's an equivalent version from the ladies perspective!. My other (slightly expensive) hobby is clay target shooting. In my small club I'm the delegated clay target machine (known as a trap) mechanic. Clay target traps can be b@$tards of things to keep working, so you can add traps to the "t**$ and tyres".
    As for expensive hobbies, do a search for DT11. That might give you an idea of where i'm at with upgraditis in this sport. It's my 4th piece of hardware for the job. Mind you, the Europeans take it to another level altogether: "Would Sir like to try the Beretta SO10 at GBP72,000?"
    That's why I figured I'd save a few pennies in the coffee hobby by going straight to the pointy end, bypassing the loss incurring upgrades to get there!
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    Jeez ... I thought springing for a Lyn-Weber EG-1 was extravagant! Guess I'll take out the loan from my bank without blinking now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprezzatura View Post
    Jeez ... I thought springing for a Lyn-Weber EG-1 was extravagant! Guess I'll take out the loan from my bank without blinking now...
    its funny you mention bank, I've actually known a few people that have taken personal loans for hobby purchases......unbelievable. I'm a anti credit person in a major way and these days I have taken great pleasures from the simple things, such as gardening and fiddling with my old toys, bushwalking, camping, fishing, travelling and riding my bike.

    I remember when I bought my old audio gear, it was a lot of money (to me), but here I am almost 30 years later and The my thing that needs replacing is the speakers, so if it weren't for them, tunes would still be flowing, not bad for 30 years.....cripes it's a smidgen under 30y.....where did those years go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DT11 View Post
    That cracks me up, & reminds me of the old line "if it's got t**$ or tyres, it'll give you trouble". And I'm sure there's an equivalent version from the ladies perspective!. My other (slightly expensive) hobby is clay target shooting. In my small club I'm the delegated clay target machine (known as a trap) mechanic. Clay target traps can be b@$tards of things to keep working, so you can add traps to the "t**$ and tyres".
    As for expensive hobbies, do a search for DT11. That might give you an idea of where i'm at with upgraditis in this sport. It's my 4th piece of hardware for the job. Mind you, the Europeans take it to another level altogether: "Would Sir like to try the Beretta SO10 at GBP72,000?"
    That's why I figured I'd save a few pennies in the coffee hobby by going straight to the pointy end, bypassing the loss incurring upgrades to get there!
    I think for precision sports/hobbies like yours, you get what you pay for, fine craftsman ship in rifles etc just is so obvious when you hold the item......it's like guitars, you can buy them for $99, but they're horrible.

    Thats why my next Coffee purchase will be two expensive items that I know I can grow into, yet most likely never master, a waste perhaps but with periodic maintance they will be good for many years to come. My first coffee purchase was almost 20 years ago, I think....this will be my last, may as well make it a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep they tell me vinyl is having a revival, have yet to go searching for new albums.

    Linn Sondek were a legendary name during the 1970's.
    I was going to say "Don't go looking for new albums, they'll cost you an arm and a leg" but then realised my complaint was pretty petty. I bought an LP the other week of a Melbourne band, and it cost me $50. But then, I remember only a decade or so ago CDs cost $35 for a good new release..

    But what makes it petty is I'll drink over $50 through my coffee machine in a month without blinking :P
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    My wife bought me a nice turntable for Christmas - was quite a surprise. She didn't realise what track she was putting me on :P Now I have to find an amp I like and some quality speakers. Most of the stuff in the second hand places around me is junk, but something worthwhile will turn up I'm sure.

    I save my new-item-buying pennies for coffee gear.
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    Expensive hobbies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    its funny you mention bank, I've actually known a few people that have taken personal loans for hobby purchases......unbelievable. I'm a anti credit person in a major way and these days I have taken great pleasures from the simple things, such as gardening and fiddling with my old toys, bushwalking, camping, fishing, travelling and riding my bike.

    I remember when I bought my old audio gear, it was a lot of money (to me), but here I am almost 30 years later and The my thing that needs replacing is the speakers, so if it weren't for them, tunes would still be flowing, not bad for 30 years.....cripes it's a smidgen under 30y.....where did those years go?
    I know. I hate taking a loan for anything. But I'm training my people to start with good water and good grinder - everything else is (other than coffee!) negotiable. I gotta practice what I preach! ... and I single dose as I'm a die-hard pour over bloke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep they tell me vinyl is having a revival, have yet to go searching for new albums.
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    Jb hi fi sell vinyl now

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    I was going to say "Don't go looking for new albums, they'll cost you an arm and a leg" but then realised my complaint was pretty petty. I bought an LP the other week of a Melbourne band, and it cost me $50. But then, I remember only a decade or so ago CDs cost $35 for a good new release..

    But what makes it petty is I'll drink over $50 through my coffee machine in a month without blinking :P
    I recall, back in the hay day of vinyl (early 70's) pretty sure good quality LP's were under $10, mind you $10 back then bought a whole lot more than it does now.

    Will have a look later, reckon I still have albums with the original price tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Jb hi fi sell vinyl now
    Wonder what the quality of the pressings is like, some labels/brands used to be excellent, others crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    My wife bought me a nice turntable for Christmas - was quite a surprise. She didn't realise what track she was putting me on :P Now I have to find an amp I like and some quality speakers. Most of the stuff in the second hand places around me is junk, but something worthwhile will turn up I'm sure.

    I save my new-item-buying pennies for coffee gear.
    if you just want a little system to quietly listen to some vinyl on, have a look around for a NAD 3020 or 312.....not the new ones recently released.

    They are around for 200-400$ depending on condition......then u just need suitable speakers.

    What is the turntable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Wonder what the quality of the pressings is like, some labels/brands used to be excellent, others crap.
    It's the same, some great, some crap. It's more about who does the mastering, cause I've got a few pressing that we're mastered for CD (a crap tonne of compression) and don't sound nearly as open, clean and wide staged as I'd expect a vinyl pressing to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Wonder what the quality of the pressings is like, some labels/brands used to be excellent, others crap.

    I need Java man here pointing saying ding ding ding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    if you just want a little system to quietly listen to some vinyl on, have a look around for a NAD 3020 or 312.....not the new ones recently released.

    They are around for 200-400$ depending on condition......then u just need suitable speakers.

    What is the turntable?
    Thanks for the tip on the NAD gear. It's an Audio Technica LP120, basically a high quality clone of the Technics 1200. Has a great cartridge too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    Thanks for the tip on the NAD gear. It's an Audio Technica LP120, basically a high quality clone of the Technics 1200. Has a great cartridge too.
    Welcome Sir,

    Have a read and you will understand more why I recommend it.

    i have a pristine 312, about 22 yo. But sorry I won't part with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    I recall, back in the hay day of vinyl (early 70's) pretty sure good quality LP's were under $10, mind you $10 back then bought a whole lot more than it does now.

    Will have a look later, reckon I still have albums with the original price tags.
    Just had a look through part of my collection, quite a few still have prices marked, cheapest $5.25, most expensive $8.95.
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    Are you looking for a stand alone system just for vinyl ? Would shelf speakers suffice? How big is the room? When you get all the equipment......I will fly down and set up with you......you will need fresh beans I had a laugh.

    Once you get an amp.....put the turntable & amp in car with your favourite vinyl and go speaker sampling.....at real hick stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Just had a look through part of my collection, quite a few still have prices marked, cheapest $5.25, most expensive $8.95.

    Some of those would have appreciated 5x to 20x. Hold onto them......or give me first dibs (I which case I will get you to ignore my first sentence here.... l o l Doh!

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    Whisky.

    Watch collecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    Whisky.

    Watch collecting.
    Funny you say that. I'm also a member on multiple watch forums, some of which have whisky sub forums. The two very much go hand in hand and both can be expensive (although watches take the prize as there's no whisky I know of that costs millions of $$). Both can be enjoyed without spending silly money, but I guess over the years I've easily spent over $5000 on watches without spending much more than $500 on any one piece. And even though coffee has well and truly taken over I still have a dozen or so watches that are special to me in one way or another, and maybe $1000 worth of whisky in the cupboard.
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    Musical instruments are also expensive hobbies! My drum kit hurt my wallet to the tune of $10k. But it was a buy once buy well kind of scenario... the only way up from this one is fully custom, and I don't know enough about wood resonance and densities, nor metal alloys, to ever find myself in that scenario.
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    If I ever have a spare 10k and I have all the bicycles and musical instruments I'd like. And the wife is content with her camera gear... I'd love something like this

    http://www.precisionsundials.com/renaissance.htm

    My homemade stuff just doesn't cut it.
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    Are there any other scuba divers here? There's a hobby that has no upper limit to expense once you get technical with twinsets, DPVs and rebreathers.

    That turntable in the first first post is ridiculous. I've never seen the point in playback equipment that goes beyond the specs of the kit used to record it... or reinforce it when played live. But hey, I work with someone who thinks Nescafe blend 43 is perfectly fine as well. To each their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinM View Post
    Are there any other scuba divers here? There's a hobby that has no upper limit to expense once you get technical with twinsets, DPVs and rebreathers.

    That turntable in the first first post is ridiculous. I've never seen the point in playback equipment that goes beyond the specs of the kit used to record it... or reinforce it when played live. But hey, I work with someone who thinks Nescafe blend 43 is perfectly fine as well. To each their own.

    Its likeputting $50,000 of amps & $200,000 worth of speakers behind a $199 Chinese turntable......can't improve on a bad source .... end of story really.

    i met a guy with $200,000 worth of stamps once, after an hour at his place I was ready to set myself on fire !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    Many people think that way, however if you were to play a CD with the same track as a well recorded vinyl on a decent turntable you would hear the warmth of the vinyl and think you were listening to cd, but he wrong.

    I use to do this experiment with people using Analog recorded Fleetwood Mac/Van Morrison/Cat Stevens etc and their CD Version......never failed.

    Vinyl is making a huge comeback too.

    My favourite possession is my Linn turntable.
    I no longer own a turntable, but I do own some vinyl (Explosive Hits '75 cost $4.95, which undercuts Yelta by 30c).

    I do own a timber Lazy Susan. Not exactly precision engineering, but could do the job at a push.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    I no longer own a turntable, but I do own some vinyl (Explosive Hits '75 cost $4.95, which undercuts Yelta by 30c).

    I do own a timber Lazy Susan. Not exactly precision engineering, but could do the job at a push.
    those 'hits albulms' are cheap nasty recordings.......frisby it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    those 'hits albulms' are cheap nasty recordings.......frisby it
    Yeh, but you can't chuck Ripper '77....the cover represented the highwater mark in ocker sexism.
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    Guy at work gets about 2 or 3 lps delivered to work every week. Hes got a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Guy at work gets about 2 or 3 lps delivered to work every week. Hes got a problem
    Lbs of what? Amphetamines ? Jelly beans? Ky jel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    I no longer own a turntable, but I do own some vinyl (Explosive Hits '75 cost $4.95, which undercuts Yelta by 30c).
    Some great numbers there!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Some great numbers there!




    Pity the first albulm has a song from a band that was led by a paedophile on it.

    other than that, thumbs up indeed !

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    yep, know too well how expensive high end audio is and mine wasnt even close to some ultra exotic.

    between that, bikes, cars coffee machines and watches, money doesnt last very long. Already gave up photographic equipment, and now with a change of address and smaller living space, hifi is also gone...
    still have the rest and they can eat up a huge range of funds, and still way more expensive then the coffee hobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Some great numbers there!
    It's the first album I can remember hearing and knowing what it was. I was about 5, and both my dad and I are born in January, and the opening song is 'January' by Pilot.....so it didn't take much encouraging for me to believe that the song was somehow about me and my dad. Then again, I also believed that the grooves in the mud in our front yard (made by a trampoline being dragged into place) were made by Santa's sleigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    Lbs of what? Amphetamines ? Jelly beans? Ky jel?
    Read the post agan smee. With your glassses on this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smee View Post
    I think for precision sports/hobbies like yours, you get what you pay for, fine craftsman ship in rifles etc just is so obvious when you hold the item......it's like guitars, you can buy them for $99, but they're horrible.

    Thats why my next Coffee purchase will be two expensive items that I know I can grow into, yet most likely never master, a waste perhaps but with periodic maintance they will be good for many years to come. My first coffee purchase was almost 20 years ago, I think....this will be my last, may as well make it a good one.
    Cry once and enjoy is my motto !
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    Read the post agan smee. With your glassses on this time

    My Appologies.....how embarrassing, what an idiot I am!

    i scratched my head before......wtf is trentski on about. What a daft bugger I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    Musical instruments are also expensive hobbies! My drum kit hurt my wallet to the tune of $10k. But it was a buy once buy well kind of scenario... the only way up from this one is fully custom, and I don't know enough about wood resonance and densities, nor metal alloys, to ever find myself in that scenario.
    Oh FFS Al. You've got an ECM on the bench and a $10k drum kit in the house somewhere. Now put me out of my misery and tell me what sort of bike(s) you've got.

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    Expensive hobbies.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Oh FFS Al. You've got an ECM on the bench and a $10k drum kit in the house somewhere. Now put me out of my misery and tell me what sort of bike(s) you've got.
    Haha a Trek 1.7 from 2009. My first purchase in a full time job. So it's not a Madone
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    Yeh, well you chaps should thank your lucky stars that you aren't addicted to collecting paper clips. It's not as if you can just buy them in shops.
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