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    What type of coffee cups do you use ?

    Just curious what sort/brand of coffee cups do you all use ?
    Does it make a difference to the taste of the coffee ?

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    I have a set of ACF cappuccino cups as well as a set of espresso cups I bought in Italy.
    ACF are no longer made, however there are other makers I'm sure are just as good.

    Both made of heavy ceramic (keeps the coffee warmer while drinking.) they are nice to drink from, alter the taste? no, however the fact that your coffee remains warm whilst drinking certainly has an affect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    I have a set of ACF cappuccino cups as well as a set of espresso cups I bought in Italy.
    ACF are no longer made, however there are other makers I'm sure are just as good.

    Both made of heavy ceramic (keeps the coffee warmer while drinking.) they are nice to drink from, alter the taste? no, however the fact that your coffee remains warm whilst drinking certainly has an affect.

    Yes the ACF cups were the industry standard for many years.

    We have been the agent for Ancap cups for a few years now. Genuine "Made in Italy" ceramics. Not just with an Italian name.....

    Cup of choice for most of Australia's competition baristas, Latte art championships......

    www.ancapcups.com

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    Yes the ACF cups were the industry standard for many years.

    We have been the agent for Ancap cups for a few years now. Genuine "Made in Italy" ceramics. Not just with an Italian name.....

    Cup of choice for most of Australia's competition baristas, Latte art championships......

    www.ancapcups.com

    Cheers

    Antony
    I should have brought more from you Antony hahaha will stock up next time I see you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amandajayne View Post
    Just curious what sort/brand of coffee cups do you all use ?
    Does it make a difference to the taste of the coffee ?
    Interesting question. Some might argue that drinking from an attractive cup enhances the drinking experience. I own a pair of expensive Terra Keramiks but I don't find the coffee tastes better from them but you appreciate the quality of the cup while drinking from it.
    I mostly use a ACF 220ml, ACF 160mL, ACF 70mL and Duralex Picardi latte glass depending on what I feel like having. I agree that the chunky ACFs hold their heat better.
    I usually get a better cuppa from the 160mL ACF cup than the 220mL one but that's about coffee to milk ratio.
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    I like using 250ml Bodum Pavina double walled/insulated glass cups. Lovely to hold and drink out of, but to be honest I have never used a standard espresso cup at home to compare them to.
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    What does ACF stand for ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amandajayne View Post
    Just curious what sort/brand of coffee cups do you all use ?
    Does it make a difference to the taste of the coffee ?
    I use twin walled borosilicate for all drinks. Works as well as most thermos flasks to keep hot drinks hot, cold ones cold. I use a lid if I need more than 20 minutes temperature stability. Over the last three years or so they have replaced all my conventional cups and glasses (including some AFC ceramics and some top grade crystal ware). They also happen to come in a variety of styles which saves domestics as to "who has which glass". I did a count, I have accumulated over 50 of them now (mostly 250ml in 6 different styles).

    Mine happen to be Avanti brand, however there are a number of other brands - just that a local shop handles Avanti and does half price deals every 6 months or so. Avanti come in a range of sizes from 80ml or 100ml "espresso shot" to 500ml "American only tubs". I normally use the 80mls for espresso, 100 or 150mls for afragatos and 250mls for lattes and iced coffees (and most herbal teas, fruit juices etc etc). Cold drip / steep coffee & lemongrass iced tea (and some thirsty visitors) get larger ones (350, 400, 450 or 500mls) in summer.

    Just avoid those twin walled "standard glass" - suitable for cold drinks only. Two friends of mine independently shattered theirs by pouring for a hot coffee into one. They are not an equivalent to borosilicate in any way.

    For the record, I have broken two of my Avantis without injury - both in a 1+ metre drop onto concrete (thanks to a "helpful" dog) which would have broken any ceramic or glass. So they are tough enough for a bit of mishandling.

    Being a glass variant, they do not taste of anything at all. They also have the advantage of displaying pours (or layered lattes when I feel the urge).

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    I use Acme & Co., in league with the Nuova Point and ACF kind of cups, but subtly different in shape/volume and more to my taste. Bought them from Coffee Parts.

    Doesn't improve the taste over a glass, any of the random mugs I have at home, a double walled glass... just a good vessel.

    They heat up nicely, they retain heat fairly well but don't give me a false sense of security like the double walled ones do. I ALWAYS burn my mouth if I'm having a long black at my mates place in his double walled glasses, which is why I personally will never have them at my house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyjj21 View Post
    I like using 250ml Bodum Pavina double walled/insulated glass cups. Lovely to hold and drink out of, but to be honest I have never used a standard espresso cup at home to compare them to.
    I use the same, reasonable to buy and hold the heat well. Also seem to impart no taste at all.

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    20170410_191531.jpg

    Left to right:
    Duralex Picardie 200ml
    Knockoff of Duralex Picardie 90ml that I got second hand
    Incasa Espresso Tulip 90ml
    Incasa Cappuccino 220ml

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    I use ~210 mL Incasa porcelain cups as I find them perfect for long blacks. I believe they're like a cheaper ACF alternative.

    In regards to taste I don't think it makes a difference but it certainly makes drinking the coffee more enjoyable when you use a cup you like, even if it is all in the head!
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    They are gorgeous Antony, I'll definitely have to invest in some
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    I didn't see these in the shop

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    In addition to a preference for materials that preserve heat, I prefer cups that with a relatively small 'open end'. Not a big fan of cups with a large 'drinking circle'. Just a personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amandajayne View Post
    I didn't see these in the shop
    The Golden Bean ones were a special run we did as our sponsorship of the Golden Bean awards. I was particularly proud of how this years cups, pictured, turned out.

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    Nuova Point porcelain here at home...

    70ml Espresso, 150ml for Latte or Flat White. Don't like huge cups much.
    Those d'Ancap are beautiful Antony...

    Mal.
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    I must confess I use cups that are beautiful at an affordable price

    VÄRDERA Mug - IKEA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Nuova Point porcelain here at home...

    70ml Espresso, 150ml for Latte or Flat White. Don't like huge cups much.
    Those d'Ancap are beautiful Antony...

    Mal.
    Hi Mal,

    I like your size choices.

    Its been interesting watching the move in cup sizes the last few years. A few years ago our most popular size cup was a 180 to 200ml cup.

    Now it would be our 150ml "competition" spec cup. I think this is a combination of a flow through from seeing what competition barista use as well as getting a good milk/coffee ratio in the cup.

    This is what I have learnt about cups. Look for:
    Good thermal insulation. This really means porcelain, glass doesn't insulate.
    Its not just about thickness, it about the density of the porcelain. We have cut cups in half that appear very thick but the inner porcelain is almost like honey come.
    IMO thickness at the lip is not good design, look for a nice bevelled edge, gives a much better mouth feel.
    Look for an "egg shape" design at the bottom. This shape prevents the cream from dissipating as the shot flows into the cup.
    Should be "non porous", nothing worse then having to bleech your cups every 6 months.
    Check country of origin. Names can be misleading

    Cheers
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    d'Ancap Italian porcelain cups
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amandajayne View Post
    What does ACF stand for ?
    No idea. No doubt something Italian. Might be something to do with the name of the makers, FAC???
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    For espresso based drinks I have a set of 7 Oz ACFs courtesy of site sponsor Silipo Coffee, a nice quality ceramic cappuccino cup of unknown manufacture but reasonable quality branded Vittoria that I bought because it has a cool print, a couple of double-walled latte glasses, and as per a recent thread, a couple of IKEA glazed plant pots (also about 7Oz).

    For filter/aeropress/Trinity1 etc, I normally use one of my Sol reusables, a crystal whisky glass, a larger double-walled glass or one of a couple of trendy handleless cups - depending on my mood and whether I want to keep hot for slow savouring or let cool to drink sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post
    Hi Mal,

    I like your size choices.

    Its been interesting watching the move in cup sizes the last few years. A few years ago our most popular size cup was a 180 to 200ml cup.

    Now it would be our 150ml "competition" spec cup. I think this is a combination of a flow through from seeing what competition barista use as well as getting a good milk/coffee ratio in the cup.

    This is what I have learnt about cups. Look for:
    Good thermal insulation. This really means porcelain, glass doesn't insulate.
    Its not just about thickness, it about the density of the porcelain. We have cut cups in half that appear very thick but the inner porcelain is almost like honey come.
    IMO thickness at the lip is not good design, look for a nice bevelled edge, gives a much better mouth feel.
    Look for an "egg shape" design at the bottom. This shape prevents the cream from dissipating as the shot flows into the cup.
    Should be "non porous", nothing worse then having to bleech your cups every 6 months.
    Check country of origin. Names can be misleading

    Cheers
    Antony
    d'Ancap Italian porcelain cups
    Hey Antony, do you have a link so I can buy d'Ancap cups from you?

    Cheers, Jenny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post


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    Very noice selection, love the d'Ancap range Antony, wish I could justify a set.
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    What type of coffee cups do you use ?

    My fleet is:

    6 Original ACF Cappuccino cups
    6 Original ACF espresso cups
    6 Gmundner Keramik Espressotasse



    When we exhaust supply if we have guests over, I give them double walled cups as a last resort. Those things mess with taste perception.
    Last edited by herzog; 11th April 2017 at 03:25 PM.
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    We have accumulated a lot of cups over the years.
    Many are in storage or were given away.
    Our day to day cups are the no longer made ACF 270ml tulips.
    Originally 6 in black and 6 in red, but there was an 'incident' about a year ago when a visitor to the house managed to kill a few of them (knocked off the bench when turning around whilst wearing a backpack).
    We now have 5 black and 3 red (plus a white I picked up elsewhere).
    Also around 4 espresso sized no name porcelains.
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    I bought 4 Nuova point espresso cups today for 80 cents from an op shop. Dropped them & smashed 2 before I left the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortblackman View Post
    I bought 4 Nuova point espresso cups today for 80 cents from an op shop. Dropped them & smashed 2 before I left the shop.
    Oh Paul!

    Ancap cups bounce...

    Cheers

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    Well, they sure look good. The ones with scenery are amazing.
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    I still have quite a few ACF's tho' they're in a box being oxymorons!! ..... original and best but I don't use them 'cos I can't replace them!

    My everyday glass for visitors having lattés is the Libby Endeavour Rocks 207ml (also comes in 250ml but is too big) handy as it has a 1oz moulding line around the base for measuring the shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    In addition to a preference for materials that preserve heat, I prefer cups that with a relatively small 'open end'. Not a big fan of cups with a large 'drinking circle'. Just a personal preference.

    That is why I have such a range of styles - the borosilicate ones vary from almost vertical (my own preference) to well beyond shallow traditional teacup flares. Different strokes for different folks. Still it makes it a lot easier to identify whose cup is laying around when the rellies visit in "ravening horde mode".

    Sadly, I have a heap of cups & glasses which I no longer use - including a quite a few novelty ones. I just cannot bring myself to part with. "I'm already visualising this coffee on your head", "Complaints Department pick a number" (number attached to a hand grenade pin!), "The art of conversation is, like, kinda dead and stuff", "My employer believes in a work - work balance" and a few of their friends.

    Perhaps I am just a cuppaholic or glassaholic?

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    I brought some Bevande cups yesterday from the local catering company, they are a nice heavy cup and have a great range of colours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeenooby View Post
    Hey Antony, do you have a link so I can buy d'Ancap cups from you?

    Cheers, Jenny
    Hello Jenny

    The website has the range but you will need to call or email with what you want and we will then process

    Www.ancapcups.com.au

    Regards

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    Just ordered some Ancap cups from Antony. Looking forward to doing a bounce test when I get them
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    I have Premier Tazze (Ex Rockingham) cups as I liked the look and colours without being the most expensive, but I wasn't sure where to buy in shop so probably spent too much with freight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charzy View Post
    Just ordered some Ancap cups from Antony. Looking forward to doing a bounce test when I get them
    and they are on the way to you now!!
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    A couple of years back I've actually started a little travel tradition.

    Each time I visit an overseas country, I try to bring back an espresso cup.

    Here's a sample: Austria, Ireland, Bermuda, Switzerland, and South Africa.



    Beats collecting fridge magnets!
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    Love it, herzog!

    Here's an indicative sample of my lineup as described above.

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    I love that sunset cup.
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    What type of coffee cups do you use ?

    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    I love that sunset cup.
    Me too! Matches my aesthtic perfectly

    It was seven bucks from that weird cafe outside the Gallery of Australian Design on lake Burley Griffin!!

    Vittoria made a whole range; this was the only design I liked... The guys at the cafe seemed very surprised that I actually wanted to buy it
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    I have just two of these (like Flynnus) which I love using.
    I would like the whole colour range but acquiring them was just too painful.
    If a reliable supplier existed I would buy more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I have just two of these (like Flynnus) which I love using.
    I would like the whole colour range but acquiring them was just too painful.
    If a reliable supplier existed I would buy more.

    Beautiful cups Rocky.
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    Thanks Yelta. My Mum (102) who is used to fine Bone China for drinking tea, was blown away when she picked one up and found how thick and heavy it was!
    As a non-coffee drinker she had no idea why it was so heavy.
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    I also come from a family of tea drinkers Rocky, know exactly what your talking about.

    Crikey 102, quite an innings, did she get the telegram/letter from the Queen?

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    Wedgwood night and day cups. Nice and thin, IMO gives a better mouth feel. About 180ml capacity. I also have Japanese double walled titanium cups too.

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    Yes Mate, the Queen, the Governor General, the Premier, the Local Member, the Mayor. Once you mention it to your local Member it is off and away.
    It is a nice process in this day and age that all of the Offices of State do this. She is pretty grounded so she wasn't over-awed by it all but it adds to the whole deal.
    Have just dropped her back to her unit at the retirement village after a day here with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I have just two of these (like Flynnus) which I love using.
    I would like the whole colour range but acquiring them was just too painful.
    If a reliable supplier existed I would buy more.
    These are my beauties:
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    sometimes I use that one:
    ECM S-Automatik 64 - Espressokvarnar - Kvarnar - Kaffecompagniet.se
    only on speczal days, mostly these:
    tazzine d'autore - S.Chia 1997

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    These are my beauties:
    Beautiful Flynn, tried to buy a set a few years back, it all got too hard.

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