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    Senior Member Yelta's Avatar
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    Not eating things.

    Had to smile at this tongue in cheek extract from an article by Oliver Burkeman in The New Philosopher.


    "There’s never been a better time in history to be the kind of person who enjoys not eating things. In my corner of New York City – as in most major cities, these days – your dining options aren’t limited to not eating meat or not eating dairy products. There are restaurants you can visit to not eat gluten or wheat; to not eat anything our prehistoric ancestors wouldn’t have eaten; or to not eat food that has been cooked. And you can wash it all down with a milky coffee containing neither milk nor much in the way of coffee (a decaf skinny soy latte, known sarcastically among baristas as the Why Bother?). It’s a strange kind of self-indulgence, this conspicuous non-consumption. Yet the non-diners of contemporary New York stand in a proud contemporary tradition. It includes Immanuel Kant, who barely ate anything for breakfast, and who once wrote that the urge to eat dinner, if you’d already had lunch, “can be considered a pathological feeling”. I harbour the fantasy of one day opening a chain of upscale Kant Diet restaurants, open for dinner only, serving nothing. Oh, and with a special, high-priced tasting menu, for those who can afford to deny themselves a truly extravagant range of dishes."

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    Yeah I agree in principle with all that.
    I have found as a 'mid-60yo' that I can no longer tolerate a whole range of food and drink that I enjoyed as a younger person.
    I would be better to have a big nutritious lunch and skip dinner and I do that frequently.
    Any drinking (alcohol) needs to be done at lunchtime.
    My Gut does not process food well and needs about 8 to 10 hours after a big meal before I can get horizontal.
    Patent medicines and pharmaceuticals to treat gut problems are a billion dollar industry just in Australia.
    It's easy to be condescending about people's food peculiarities but as you get older your body simply doesn't function as efficiently as it did at 30.
    When I need to order a 'decaf skinny soy latte' I will sell my espresso machine and give up coffee in favor of warm water.
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    Don't really think he's taking a slap at us old timers Rocky (sadly, age does involve change and moderation) his target is the trendy young things who choose to spend big bucks on fad diets and trend following eating habits.

    Anyone for a meatless burger and some "ugly vegetables" washed down with a rainbow latte
    http://www.mydomainehome.com.au/heal...ss-trends-2017

    Seems Soy milk is now out of fashion.

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    That's sooo pretty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Yeah I agree in principle with all that.
    I have found as a 'mid-60yo' that I can no longer tolerate a whole range of food and drink that I enjoyed as a younger person.
    I would be better to have a big nutritious lunch and skip dinner and I do that frequently.
    Any drinking (alcohol) needs to be done at lunchtime.
    My Gut does not process food well and needs about 8 to 10 hours after a big meal before I can get horizontal.
    Patent medicines and pharmaceuticals to treat gut problems are a billion dollar industry just in Australia.
    It's easy to be condescending about people's food peculiarities but as you get older your body simply doesn't function as efficiently as it did at 30.
    When I need to order a 'decaf skinny soy latte' I will sell my espresso machine and give up coffee in favor of warm water.
    Sounds more like years of eating badly has moved not only your metabolism but also your gut biome to the point where you are today. There are many, many examples of this in modern society where people think they eat healthy but they do not. Age, especially in your mid 60's is nothing compared to years of poor eating habits and sedentary lifestyles.

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    Good to see that you've been following Rocky around for 60 odd years taking careful notes of his diet and exercise regime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lootee View Post
    Sounds more like years of eating badly has moved not only your metabolism but also your gut biome to the point where you are today. There are many, many examples of this in modern society where people think they eat healthy but they do not. Age, especially in your mid 60's is nothing compared to years of poor eating habits and sedentary lifestyles.
    What an uninformed judgmental load of crap, tell us a little about your professional qualifications.

    Four posts, not one of them with reference to coffee, I suspect your just here to stir.
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    Yep 4 posts, at least 3 of which are antagonistic. Pure troll.

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    Maybe Lootee is right, but I think it is very difficult for most folks to know whether their diet/eating habits are right for their individual metabolism.
    I thought I have been a "healthy eater" all my life - lots of vegetables, moderate amount of meat, reasonable amount of dairy and not much fat (Never eaten fast/junk food).
    I have always been active and have power-walked 5 klms every morning for the last 20 years.
    I stopped smoking 40 years ago and have a small alcohol intake on weekends only.
    I tend to think that like everything else about your body, your digestive function decreases in efficiency as you age, particularly post 60.
    But thanks for your opinion Lootee, I will keep it in mind. Or not.
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    Your a true diplomat Rocky.

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    Being of a similar age I have found that I needed to reduce my intake considerable in respect to the foods I had eaten for years. I am still enjoying them but less of them. I think it is just our metabolism slows down as we age. However coffee consumption has not varied
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Being of a similar age I have found that I needed to reduce my intake considerable in respect to the foods I had eaten for years. I am still enjoying them but less of them. I think it is just our metabolism slows down as we age. However coffee consumption has not varied
    Yep! sadly a fact of life Stan, I still enjoy the same things I always have, like you, in moderation.

    My coffee consumption has also remained the same, with no ill affect, guess we can be thankful for small mercies.
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    You can kickstart your metabolism if you remain active, you guys sound defeated, age is purely a number there is a 59 year old guy in my cycle group who eats almost everything and can still do 2km stints out the front at 40km per hour, he is leaner and fitter then most 25 year olds. Too many think metabolism is linked to age but its linked to how you treat your body, lay dormant and eat garbage and your metabolism will be garbage, remain active and your metabolism will also be the same.

    Look into Testosterone replacement therapy, eat healthy and stay active, do not give in and do not listen to others or believe everything you read.

    Secondly the biggest breakthrough in medicine will be when we look at individual dietary requirements, too many people jump on cavemen diets or any kind of faddy diet and this this will help them. Changing to a pure vegan or other when your ancestors ate meat and you ate meat your entire life is not only unhealthy its ludicrous, lower your meat intake for sure but eat wholesome and real foods not crap from a bottle.

    A tailored diet for your body type will dramatically help you reduce your chance of disease including cancers, this dietary change does not mean grabbing a multivitamin or another form of marketing vitamin hype.

    Ask yourself these questions, what do I weight? is it in the healthy BMI range? (the BMI is not the best but its all we have), what do I eat? when did I last raise my heart rate (unless reading a looter post)? If you answer these questions and are honest with yourself you will know what you need to do, it is not rocket science, get off the couch, eat "real food" not fast food or bottled/processed garbage, your metabolism will improve, your energy levels will improve and you will improve.

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    I see an old stone bridge over the last post... But let's stay on target and talk coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lootee View Post
    do not listen to others or believe everything you read.
    Solid advice

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    Have to smile at the youthful presumptuousness and inexperience of Lotee's writing, he knows nothing of the people his parroted diatribe is aimed at, however he still seems to feel eminently qualified to offer expert advice on medical, dietary and lifestyle matters.

    I asked the question re his qualifications in post seven, which he has chosen to ignore, I guess silence speaks volumes.
    About the only skill I can elicit from his post is a claim to be able to ride a bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    [SIZE=2]youthful presumptuousness and inexperience of Lotee's writings
    Yelta! You're being too kind. See plenty of bad behaviour on the site over the years but it's not often disgusting. Not only does he know nothing of the good people he insults he knows nothing of human metabolism, the ageing process, the 2nd law of thermodynamics or statistics (knowing 1 person is hardly grounds for knowledge or authority) nor does he know anything about the flip side of white, western colonialist privilege.
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