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Thread: Health benefits of coffee.

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    Health benefits of coffee.

    Hi folks,

    Not strictly off topic but...

    I was talking to an exercise physiologist the other day and he mentioned that there have been some studies where they say drinking some coffee coffee is good for the heart and he then went on to explain how they came to that conclusion. I couldn't repeat exactly what he said but I do remember over the years, others saying to me coffee has some health benefits to your body.

    I thought I'd post this as a discussion topic and see what people here thought.

    I did some quick Googling and came up with this. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270202.php

    Thoughts?

    Cheers.

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    I'm usually sceptical of medical studies and you sometimes find that something touted as beneficial is later found by another study to be not so good ... or vice versa (eg fat). As caffeine is a stimulant it may not be good for some people with a heart condition. What may work for some doesn't necessarily work for all and seeking qualified advice is always advised if you have a medical condition (don't depend on Dr Google).

    Moderation is also advisable but what is considered a moderate amount may vary. Some people can drink 6+ cups a day without any problems. Three is my limit and I usually drink 2 a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    I'm usually sceptical of medical studies and you sometimes find that something touted as beneficial is later found by another study to be not so good ... or vice versa (eg fat). As caffeine is a stimulant it may not be good for some people with a heart condition. What may work for some doesn't necessarily work for all and seeking qualified advice is always advised if you have a medical condition (don't depend on Dr Google).

    Moderation is also advisable but what is considered a moderate amount may vary. Some people can drink 6+ cups a day without any problems. Three is my limit and I usually drink 2 a day.
    Yep! I take what I read in the press with a grain of salt.

    Read a report a couple of days back extolling jack fruit as a perfect meat replacement, they neglect to mention the protein content is minimal, the media boosting jack fruit production in Oz.

    Most of what we read in papers now are thinly disguised advertorials.

    This morning it was cocoa, you guessed it, promoting a developing cocoa growing industry in Northern Qld.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep! I take what I read in the press with a grain of salt.
    Careful with the salt intake Yelta
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    Careful with the salt intake Yelta
    Smiled to myself as I typed this, felt sure someone would pick up on it pretty quick smart.

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    I believe coffee has health benefits after I have had my morning coffee I can deal with stupid people without resorting to force.
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    It makes me very happy in the morning.

    And that means my partner is also happy.

    So yes it has immense health benefits. Happy wife happy life as they say.

    On a serious not I am wary until I understand who paid or contributed by the study. Most of these are impartial at the very best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    Careful with the salt intake Yelta
    You just may find salt is the next "fat", we have been told for years that it is bad but the studies this is based on is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lootee View Post
    You just may find salt is the next "fat", we have been told for years that it is bad but the studies this is based on is flawed.
    Yes I've heard that too. The body does require some sodium chloride to function. The issue has always been of quantity. Salt isn't bad but too much is; we usually obtain our daily needs via a good diet. Cholesterol is another one that was once thought to be a no no but we have since learned that there is good (LDL) and bad (HDL) cholesterol.

    Sugar is the current villain du jour but even that isn't so bad if you are sufficiently active to burn most of it off otherwise it gets converted to body fat.

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    Ah....The old sugar vs fat trick (said in Maxwell Smarts voice)...

    Over the years there has been a big debate of which is bad for the body... My understanding is white and processed sugar, sometimes known as the white poison, is bad...I think it is definitely addictive, with stories of the large burger chains requiring the bakeries to bake their buns with quite a lot of sugar in the buns to a "happy point"(can't remember exactly the term they use) which is a lot but not enough as not to make it too much so the body starts to reject it. There are plenty of videos available talking about sugar and the politics the big sugar companies use. Then again there are fats which are killers too...Not ignoring the fact the body needs good fats (as well as good sugars) but the bad fats are also killers...Now lets throw aspartame into to the conversation and talk about it's so called side effects and weather it is good for you or not and IMO you have a very complicated argument which leads me to a lot of confusion. Personally, when I am disciplined enough I avoid added processed sugars with a balanced diet along with avoiding any "processed" (my word) fats and I have avoided aspartame for years now. Having said that, if I was diabetic, I do not think I would have any option, practically speaking, but to consume some things with aspartame in it, but I'm not ATM touch wood, so I can avoid it altogether.

    I need to add...I am by no means an expert or qualified in these areas and I am more than happy to listen to people who know about these things.

    Getting back to the health benefits of coffee. I spose I was asking the question weather people knew of any health benefits of coffee?

    So far I got.

    Staying alive and not being killed by your partner.
    Keeping stupid people you deal with, alive.
    May be good for the heart.

    Cheers.

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    These health benefit threads are very much tongue in cheek, although a few of the food/diet obsessives among us seem to get themselves pretty overwrought over the whole issue.

    I would suggest most people who blindly follow media promoted dietary habits and fads are well and truly in eating disorder territory.

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    Here's something to get yer nipples in a knot over, bet there are plenty who will drink one or more of these daily.

    "LiveLighter and Rethink Sugary Drink, an alliance of 18 health agencies, have teamed up to launch the 'Don't Be Sucked In' campaign, warning that some large- size frozen drinks contain as much as 20.4 teaspoons of sugar." https://www.goodfood.com.au/good-health/frozen-drink-facts-reveal-a-sugary-shock-20180112-h0h7sj?benref=smh

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    i only eat healthy foods. does that make me a food disorder-ist?

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    As long as you wash that healthy organic crap down with 6 beers I would put you on the safe side of the list.
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    the only organic certification i need is for my food to contain carbon.

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    Occasionally a former colleague and I would buy KFC for lunch on the (jokey) argument that you should let your system harden the hell up by eating junk food every no and then. We called it having a grease and oil change.

    Now lets throw aspartame into to the conversation...
    I heard somewhere that artificial sweeteners were discredited by some dodgy studies sponsored by the sugar industry. Worthwhile checking out this claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    These health benefit threads are very much tongue in cheek
    Yep...All good with that..After all it is an off topic thread...I'm happy to let it ride and go where the conversation leads us...I'm quite enjoying it actually...Although from time to time I may ask the question again.

    Wish I could understand how to use the multiple quote facility.

    "Here's something to get yer nipples in a knot over, bet there are plenty who will drink one or more of these daily."

    "LiveLighter and Rethink Sugary Drink, an alliance of 18 health agencies, have teamed up to launch the 'Don't Be Sucked In' campaign, warning that some large- size frozen drinks contain as much as 20.4 teaspoons of sugar." https://www.goodfood.com.au/good-hea...7sj?benref=smh"

    I've been known to have the occasional slushie from time to time but rarely though. I didn't realise they had that much sugar in them. It'll be interesting to compare them like to like with soft drinks.

    "Occasionally a former colleague and I would buy KFC for lunch on the (jokey) argument that you should let your system harden the hell up by eating junk food every no and then. We called it having a grease and oil change."

    Ha, ha. Very good...

    That reminds me of when I was in my teens...You see, I love Coke and quite like junk food as well. I used to drink a fair bit of Coke and I justified it by saying all the other junk I eat puts a lining on my stomach and the Coke takes the lining off

    "I heard somewhere that artificial sweeteners were discredited by some dodgy studies sponsored by the sugar industry. Worthwhile checking out this claim."

    I heard the same thing, but that sounds like the politics of the big sugar companies, paying so called experts to discredit things, introducing theories to deliberately confuse the issue, so on and so forth.

    Then again you have claims that Monsanto...The big player in the the aspartame thing, doing exactly what the big sugar companies do.

    I've asked different dietitians weather they think artificial sweeteners are bad for you and the general consensus among the ones I have talked to are there is not enough evidence yet to prove it is bad for you and one described it as water being the best for you sugar being the worst and artificial sweeteners being in the middle.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy View Post
    Wish I could understand how to use the multiple quote facility.
    At the bottom of 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc post you want to quote click the button with the quotation mark with the + next to it, a green check mark will then be displayed over it. On the final post you want to quote click the Reply With Quote button. You will then see in the reply box all the posts you wanted quoted displayed. Edit them there so only the part of each post you're replying to is shown and reply away.


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    Interesting that no one has tackled specifically the psychology of coffee ....... in particular the coffee behaviour therapy, a cleverly disguised swap for the cognitive aspect albeit conceptually implied. After all fellow CS'ers we all know we are cognitive in our choice of beverage are we not. The behaviour therapy merely points to the associated positives and negatives, risks and rewards, dare I say mutual relationship benefits of partaking in the production of said refreshment.

    No I am not a psychologist nor do I purport to know anything other than I need to keep taking the prescribed (self diagnosed and medicated) dose of coffee .... but wait there is more ....

    Thoughts feelings and behaviour (cornerstone CBT) relates to what we think how we feel about it and then how we act as a result ........ so ... lets change that to taste feeling and behaviour and I believe we have the essence of the health benefits ........ I taste it, I like it, I act accordingly ...... woohoo ......
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