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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Matt View Post
    Not at all - just a gentle ribbing ☺ you gotta admit that was a bit of a rant - not that there's anything wrong with that

    I agree with you for the most part. Grew up playing outside, screen time was strictly monitored and I still ride my bike (though I'll disagree that casual clothes are more appropriate for that activity. You don't see many people at footy practice wearing street clothes either...).
    All good Matt.

    Ahhhh, so it was the Lycra comment that caused a bit of a wheel wobble, wondered if someone may take umbrage, nothing against cyclists, though you gotta admit some of the more rotund members of the Lycra brigade present quite a spectacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knastoer View Post
    That's horrendous!
    I agree Knastoer, I couldn't believe they axed the grid girls either

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    Quote Originally Posted by knastoer View Post
    That's horrendous!
    Guess they also provided a bit of neurological stimulation as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 338 View Post
    I agree Knastoer, I couldn't believe they axed the grid girls either
    Yeah in the interest of equality they shouldíve just put shirtless buff dudes on 50% of the grid and everything would be fine.

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    Here's a link for the MAMIL's.

    https://au.demand.film/mamil/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semillon View Post
    A little context by someone who knows the e-sports scene...

    There are quite a few computer games out there which were either created to be played in a way similar to a sport or accidentally ended up that way. Of those games, quite a few have serious professional players / teams and there are significant prize pools on offer for tournament wins.

    I have personally played one such game (Dota2) in a manner of say a grade cricket player - specifically practicing various skills, training with other serious players and occasionally playing with or against professionals. There is a ranking system similar to that employed by chess and I managed to make it into the top 1% of players worldwide - yet that takes constant practice to maintain. It is/was a fun hobby if you are so inclined.

    The largest professional Dota2 tournament of the year ("The International") had a prize pool of $16.8 million USD last year. It is held in a basketball stadium in Seattle and has millions live of viewers worldwide.

    Nobody is suggesting it as a replacement for traditional sports, though most of the top e-sports professionals also have a strict exercise regime as of course it improves your performance in the games.
    I didn't know that these people and maybe even yourself have and do the physical training to that extent. It does make sense if you ask me...

    Just to put a different slant on the conversation....I in no way profess to know very much at all about pilot training, but, don't the pilots receive substantial training in a simulator? I know they receive substantial training in the real thing as well.... I reckon the esports games will have as good, if not better equipment to simulate almost any sport in the not so distant future.....Just trying to throw something slightly different into the mix.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy View Post
    I didn't know that these people and maybe even yourself have and do the physical training to that extent. It does make sense if you ask me...

    Just to put a different slant on the conversation....I in no way profess to know very much at all about pilot training, but, don't the pilots receive substantial training in a simulator? I know they receive substantial training in the real thing as well.... I reckon the esports games will have as good, if not better equipment to simulate almost any sport in the not so distant future.....Just trying to throw something slightly different into the mix.

    Cheers.
    Virtually all training for commercial pilots is in the sim if there is one available.
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    Fair enough...Happy to stand corrected... So are the sims that lifelike?

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy View Post
    Fair enough...Happy to stand corrected... So are the sims that lifelike?

    Cheers.
    Itís not that they look realistic itís just that theyíre a much better resource to use than actual aircraft. For starters aircraft donít make money when theyíre just flying around with pilots on board and no passengers or cargo. Also the sims can be and are used 24/7. They can have all the details for pretty much any airport in the world loaded into them as well as the conditions at each airport that pilots are likely to face when flying in there, including weather and seasonal conditions and other air traffic. They can also be used to simulate many if not all known possible emergency situations. The big benefit of this aspect of course is that you can train for a particular emergency without actually putting any people or equipment in danger. Thereís probably more benefits as well, but thatís the basics I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Virtually all training for commercial pilots is in the sim if there is one available.
    A bit simplistic Leroy, CPL training also involves a lot of practical flight time as well.

    Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL) Course - Sydney, Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    A bit simplistic Leroy, CPL training also involves a lot of practical flight time as well.

    Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL) Course - Sydney, Australia
    To obtain the license it does. In fact obtaining it involves mostly practical training. Once you have it though maintaining it is simply a combination of flight hours and type specific sim training. They are two separate processes for sure. Iím talking about certified pilots rather than trainees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    To obtain the license it does. In fact obtaining it involves mostly practical training. Once you have it though maintaining it is simply a combination of flight hours and type specific sim training. They are two separate processes for sure. Iím talking about certified pilots rather than trainees.
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Fair enough.
    Not sure if thatís actually what Ďbig daddyí meant, but thatís how I read it. (???)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Yeah in the interest of equality they should’ve just put shirtless buff dudes on 50% of the grid and everything would be fine.
    Funnily enough Leroy they also did that in the Monaco F1, probably about the same time as Nissan's Playstation gamer kills this poor spectator, I think 2015. Possibly a link? They only did it once. I am with you, throw a few guys in there if it meant keeping the grid girls. The grid girls are now thanking all the people campaigning to empower women - for empowering this group of women out of a job they love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddy View Post
    don't the pilots receive substantial training in a simulator? I know they receive substantial training in the real thing as well.... I reckon the esports games will have as good, if not better equipment to simulate almost any sport in the not so distant future.....Just trying to throw something slightly different into the mix.
    Entirely different bucket of fish, "real" flight simulators (i.e. the ones pilots train in, not the ones you play on PC/Console/whatever, even if you're one of the fanatics who goes so far as to build their own glass cockpit at home) also replicate the physicality of the actual activity to the highest degree they can, it's not practical to do this on a small scale because the complexity of replicating the physical experience is ridiculously expensive (and rather space intensive).

    To call on an example upthread, if you were to put pilots who had only trained in a "PC" flightsim behind the stick of an actual plane you'd probably end up with the same result as Nissan got sticking Jann Mardenborough who had "trained" in a "simulator" in a real race car, which was mentioned above.
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    There was a (true) story many years ago when Sven Goran Eriksson was relieved of his job as manager of the England football team....a young kid applied for the job on the basis of his record playing Championship Manager (now Football Manager) on his PC. He wrote a charming and genuine application letter that made the 3rd last page of many dailies.

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    And as I speak.....

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...691b55c815f613

    "FOX Sports has furthered its commitment to football in Australia by reaching an agreement to broadcast live the inaugural season of the e-League.
    Football Federation Australia made the announcement on Thursday and said securing a broadcast partner was a major milestone in the development of the fledgling competition.

    “FOX SPORTS have been supporters of football for many years, and we’ve been working very closely with them to bring the e-League to life,” FFA’s Head of Commercial, Digital and Marketing, Luke Bould, said in a statement.

    “The e-League will connect an avid EA SPORTS FIFA 18 audience with the Hyundai A-League & Westfield W-League and is a first in the Australian sports industry.”

    The FFA’s e-League is a competition that will feature a total of 20 competitors representing all 10 A-League clubs (two competitors per club)."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    All good Matt.

    Ahhhh, so it was the Lycra comment that caused a bit of a wheel wobble, wondered if someone may take umbrage, nothing against cyclists, though you gotta admit some of the more rotund members of the Lycra brigade present quite a spectacle.
    Haha, I may resemble that remark (well, would if I still rode regularly enough to bother with kitting up these days).

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    I like the rise of e-sports. It's really just a celebration of people at the top of their field of choice, like chess or like quiz shows. It takes a lot of mental dexterity and coordination, strategy and management skills. Your biceps aren't the only thing that's worth exercising

    It's really just an evolution of playing Street fighter in an arcade with your friends. Good fun!

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