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    Thanks. I'm a true beginner - I have an EMO360... 'conical burr' but I'm sure it doesn't really rate highly as a grinder. The fact that I can pretty much 'clog' the system makes me think it'll do a good enough job with an single walled basket. I'll PM and ask Greg if he's willing to do another.

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    Thought I should report back. I took the outer wall off the Breville ESPC8 2 cup filter myself (not half as neat as Greg!). I worked out that the best grind (for me) is with the Sunbeam bcg450 wound to the third notch from finest. Any finer just 'clogs' things in the ESPC8. I also bought a tamper to replace the plastic thing that came with the ESPC8. Oh and I'm using my own roasted blend (close to the KJM blend), roasted on a home-made KKTO-like roaster.

    I think the coffee improved, but I was not satisfied. So I bought a second ESP8C for less than $10 of an auction site you'd be familiar with (now I have a couple of extra filters and second filter holder). Then I cut the bottom out of one filter holders (ie now have a naked prota-filter - so I can see what's coming out and when). Put it all together and this morning I had my first 'real coffee' from the ESP8c!!

    I now think I can probably change my username from 'starter' to 'started'.

    If I can repeat and become consistent with the technique (and also learn to use a single wall single-cup filter?) I'll then try to go back to the un-modified filter holder with my improved 'technique'. Then after that I'll start thinking about some up-grades (better grinder and better machine).

    PS When I was brewing I had a few squirts around the edges of the filter (either due to poor tamping, or due to my poor workmanship in removing the outerwall on the filter - there's still a bit of the outer layer covering/partly covering a few holes), but on the whole if formed quite nicely into a single 'pour'/'shot' or whatever the term is.

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    Exclamation Update

    Hi All,

    Just an update.
    1--Yes I am still offering this service.
    2--Due to the large quantity of requests I can no longer pay for the return postage. So please enclose a paid, self-addressed bag in the original parcel.
    3--I usually do the mods on a weekend (sometimes on a Wednesday too) and they go into the mail at the first opportunity. Note that AusPost runs to its own schedule.
    4--Some single baskets are **not** able to be modified, so unless you really need a single and are willing to take the chance, it's best to just send the double only. For shorter coffees--make a ristretto!
    5--The minimum grinder needed to make better coffee is usually considered to be the Sunbeam 0450. If your grinder won't go fine enough then your coffee is likely to get worse!

    Send a PM for the mailing address.

    Greg

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    Greg, your workmanship is top notch. and service is excellent! Thank you.

    Learning is underway. I have managed to pull a few beautiful shots since receiving the modified baskets. I'm still dialing it in but the results are fantastic so far.

    My only complaint is that I am now responsible for all espresso based coffees in my house as my wife says it's too tricky.

    Thanks again!

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    Another shoutout! Came home today to find the freshly modified basket waiting in the mailbox. Was possibly a little too excited and had one too many coffees for 6pm on a monday night. Thanks again Greg, workmanship is top notch and the time and effort is truly appreciated!

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    Got the baskets today - thanks Greg! What an amazing guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kofe View Post
    Got the baskets today - thanks Greg! What an amazing guy.
    I concur!

    I would never have believed I could get such a good result from my 'sits-in-the-cupboard-just-in-case' machine, the $57 black Sunbeam I bought some years ago.

    Great stuff, Greg!
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    Got my de-restricted double basket (EM5600) from Greg today. Thanks mate!
    Single should be back in a week or two.

    Question. Anybody want to clue me up on how fine a grind I should be aiming for from my Rancilio Rocky, also just purchased.

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    Hi ghezzi,

    there is no hard and fast rule for the grind: different coffees and the age of beans have a bearing on the grind.

    The only way you're going to work out the right grind is by trial and error.

    Watch how the coffee pours from the machine. If it gushes out, then grind finer; if the machine chokes, coarser.

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    Off topic posts have been moved here: Sunbeam EM5600 Discussion thread


    Java "Let's keep it on topic please folks" phile
    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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    Hi Greg, am considering this modification. Possible on a sunbeam em2800?
    Also considering Attempting it at home as a little project.. You use a dremal tool yes? With what attachment, the rotary saw?

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    I have PMed you Greg - since I'm interested too for the ones that came with my Sunbeam EM4820.
    One thing - I am really confused about WHY the likes of sunbeam (etc) would go to the trouble of including baskets that (as far as I can see) would be more difficult to manufacture than the singles???
    They must surely think that the doubles are better - but I don't get why - wen everyone here says the singles are better.

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    I may not be correct, but I believe the dual floor baskets work well with pre-ground coffee purchased from Coles/Woolworths etc.
    But if you grind your own beans then a better coffee can be had with the single floor.

    Bigger machines come with 2 sets of baskets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderChild View Post
    WHY the likes of sunbeam (etc) would go to the trouble of including baskets that (as far as I can see) would be more difficult to manufacture than the singles???
    There are two main reasons, one is that they are more forgiving of poor grinding and/or tamping. The one small hole in the outer wall creates a back pressure that will give a good extraction time even with a grind that is too coarse, and a light tamp, and two, it creates a false crema even with stale coffee which would have little or none if put thru a single floor basket.

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    Thanks Greg for your modification to my breville basket.

    You are artisian with your dremel.

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    Thanks Greg for your quality workmanship on the baskets I sent you. Received them back today

    Marvelous work. They could easily be mistaken for brought ones.

    I'm now off to get grinding, tamping and pulling.

    Thanks again. You're an absolute legend

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    Thanks for the kudos Geoff.
    Have fun with your new toys.

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    If you don't want to bother Greg & have a hand grinder at home or you can borrow,
    simply take your basket to a suitable location like a shed or garage, place it upside
    down & begin to slowly grind the outside edge of the basket with your grinder going
    slowly & steadily around the pressurised basket until the cover comes off. I suggest
    you wear a pair of protective glasses,going slowly & stopping every once in a while
    so you don't over grind the edge & the metal doesn't get to hot & after a short while
    a thin metal disc will fall off, it's that easy, all the best.

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    Many thanks Greg your work is great. The coffee tastes great. Onward and upward on my coffee education and appreciation.
    Tom

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    Hi Greg,

    I have sent you a pm!hope you are still doing this

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    A year or two down the track....

    But Greg, I too have sent you a cheeky PM...



    Quote Originally Posted by cywsarah View Post
    Hi Greg,

    I have sent you a pm!hope you are still doing this

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    ok assuming i have way to many tools including a mini lathe, where is it best to cut? underneath or further up the sides?

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    Sorry for the late answer.
    You need to cut on the bottom, and leave at least a 3-4 mm rim around the bottom. The filter "screen" is just a press fit and without the rim to retain it in the basket, it'll get blown out with the least pressure.

    Greg

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    Hi Greg,

    Are you still offering this service?

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