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    Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

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    This thread is for the posting of basic information on bread makers and is intended to be used as a starting point for those looking at acquiring a bread maker for coffee roasting (aka Corretto).

    For ease of reading posts should be made using the following format:


    * Make / model
    * where/how did you acquire
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)
    * minimum quantity roasted
    * maximum quantity roasted
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no
    * max run time without mod
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc)
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]


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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model... Breville "Big Loaf" up to 1.5 Kg loaf of bread. How much coffee you ask :o
    * where/how did you acquire... Bought it years ago and still use it to make fresh bread.
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)... Coming soon.
    * minimum quantity roasted... Have tried 150 grams but it gets tossed around very violently.
    * maximum quantity roasted... 600 grams to date, and it was a piece of cake, could probably double that weight.
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Yes it does, simple to do but needs a sparky.
    * max run time without mod... Only 12:30
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc).... Not needed so far.
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing.... Not used so far, coming soon ;)
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc).... Larger batches are definitely easier to do and work best without heat-spreader, smaller batches work better with.
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model .... Sunbeam Bakehouse
    * where/how did you acquire.... relocated from back of cupboard after its previous life as a breadmaker was no longer "in fashion"!
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height).... 14cm X 14cm X 16cm
    * minimum quantity roasted..... about 150 grams - just covered temp probe!
    * maximum quantity roasted ..... 600+ grams easily (might even make a kilo)
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Yes it does, simple to do but needs a sparky
    * max run time without mod..... 15 minutes
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)..... the paddle must be shortened by 1 cm or it traps beans between the end of the paddle and the wall- and jams. When it is modded it cn be set so the paddle rotates in either direction - requires single pole, three position (centre off) switch
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing ..... installed through the outer case, inner case and the bowl 1 cm above the base of the bowl and on the right hand side about 2cm from the corner of the bowl. The heater element does not have to be removed. A second hole could be drilled above the first for larger batches (again the heater does not have to be removed)
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) ..... this model and I assume any other with a small deep bowl concentrates the heat from the gun. A 2000W gun with the tip just below the edge heats the beans far faster than desired...... either raise the gun or reduce the heat for a better length roast. A fan blowing over the top of the BM and over the HG is also used during roasting.
    * photo of Bread maker

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model Breville BB250

    * where/how did you acquire Way too long ago to remember,

    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) 13cm square at top & 16cm deep.

    * minimum quantity roasted 200g

    * maximum quantity roasted 500g

    * requires modding to run for sufficient time /no

    * max run time without mod 20 something minutes

    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) I havent had to do anything to it which has made it ideal. No probs with paddle movement, etc.

    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing: I have had two goes at this, the first from the back about 1.5cm from bottom of the bowl. Didnt give me accurate enough temp readings and paddle or beans would knock probe out of position, so came in from an angle to give maximum exposure to the probe. Works very well and because at an angle probe stays in position much better.

    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) Because the bowl is narrow and deep I think this more effecient than a wider, shallower bowl. However, I dont know the measurements of others so only going on visuals.

    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]


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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    This thread is for the posting of basic information on bread makers and is intended to be used as a starting point for those looking at acquiring a bread maker for coffee roasting (aka Corretto).

    For ease of reading posts should be made using the following format:


    * Make / model Welbilt AMD600 about 180rpm metal body
    * where/how did you acquire: thrift store
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) added s.s pot on top 12" diameter x5.5" high(pic is before cut down from6.5"-5.5") w/CO top
    * minimum quantity roasted 150 grams/green
    * maximum quantity roasted 1 kilo/green
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no -yes
    * max run time without mod- not sure
    * comments re other mods required - extending mixer shaft and adding pot and new stir rod, on/off switch for stir motor added on front.
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing low on side of pot
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) super even large roasts, love it
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b] link to pics and more info: http://coffee-roasting.blogspot.com/






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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Make / model - Breville Ultimate Bakers Oven

    * where/how did you acquire - Purchased years ago and hasnt been used for bread in 2 years. *

    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) 19.5cm x 14cm x 14.5cm deep.

    * minimum quantity roasted 300g

    * maximum quantity roasted *550g

    * requires modding to run for sufficient time - no, you can even use its controls to increase the kneed time up to 25min +

    * max run time without mod *20 something minutes

    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) *I havent had to do anything to it at all.

    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing: *I dont use a temp probe at all, i may do if i really want to be bothered worrying about it etc.

    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) *The sound of the beans hitting the bowl on full kneed (as opposed to agitation) means that you have to listen closely for all sounds etc. The larger the roast the quicker the noise is reduced as the beans expand etc.



    The full setup is shown below, beans are cooled in collanders sitting on bucket with lid and a GMC vac/blower attached and used on blow to force air up and through the collander. Beans are generally cooled in under 20 seconds or so.






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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model - Palsonic PAB-3600
    * where/how did you acquire - ebay
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) -
    * minimum quantity roasted - 300g
    * maximum quantity roasted - 300g
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no - Yes (well to run continuously from the start)
    * max run time without mod - unknown
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) - none required, but many done, see below (it no longer makes bread)
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing - through the side of the tin
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) - I chose this one because of the square bowl
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)

    I have replaced the electronics with the control circuit from my old fluidised bed roaster. The output from the heat gun is controlled against a temperature profile loaded from excel. Ill post some more details of the mods.

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    http://picasaweb.google.com/DavidLPaget/PIDCorretto

    Image size reduced to 640x480 to make it easier to view in browser,
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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Just viewed your slideshow on google... nice work indeed... well done

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

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    Please restrict posts in this thread to the Title of the thread, i.e. Detailed Information/Reviews of specific Bread-Makers,

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model... Breville Bakers Oven BB280
    * where/how did you acquire... Bought from Breville factory second store in Redfern for half price
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)... 180*140*130mm
    * minimum quantity roasted... 250g is probably a useful minimum
    * maximum quantity roasted... 300g handled easily, probably could do up to 750g or more
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Not really, just wait for the initial 2min intermittent stir to finish and then itll go for another 30 mins
    * max run time without mod... 30 mins
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc).... Not needed so far
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing.... top left of bowl, around 10mm from bottom of bowl, and no issues
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc).... Have to remember to remove probe before removing bowl to avoid bent probe :) and there is a 3 second pause every 30 seconds during the continuous stir cycle but it doesnt appear to affect roast quality or evenness
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)



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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Hitachi HB-201 from thrift shop
    15cm x 15cm x 25cm
    125g > 225g
    Unknown if it ever needed a modification as I did that right away
    Shortened paddle b/c of some jamming
    Temp probe put in bottom corner of bowk

    Overall this seems to be good bread machine for coffee roasting. *I like the narrow bowl as it ensures the beans all stay agitated - I get very even roasts. *In addition its very roomy inside the case for mods.




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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers


    * Make / model: Temp "Cafe Essentials" Bread Maker
    * where/how did you acquire: Sams Warehouse
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height): 13cm x 11.5cm x 10cm
    * minimum quantity roasted: N/A
    * maximum quantity roasted N/A
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no: Yes
    * max run time without mod: 10 min
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc): NA
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing: Hole Drilled Straight through the side.
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc)
    Utter rubbish Once internal temp of bowl hits 150 degrees the motor shuts down. Hopefully other CS members wont try the cheap option like I did ($40).

    Posting this up as a warning for new Corretto roasters (like myself :P) so they dont have this happen to them.

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Panasonic SD206
    * My parents replaced it with a Breville as the felt that the motor
    * had lost its grunt
    * *13x18x16cm (WxLxD)
    * one roast of 250gms at this stage
    * Unknown, expect well in excess of 500gms to be no problem
    * Yes, requires modding, dough cycle pulses for some time, then *kneads *
    * from 10-20 minutes (instruction manual)Rewired with power &
    * start switches
    * Also required shortened paddle
    * Drilled body & pan, inserted metal tube so probe enters pan thru
    * small hole
    * will post photo of machine later

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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Got myself going with corretto a couple of weeks ago and thought I would post my set up:

    * Make / model Lumina XBM 1089 (Aldi special)
    * where/how did you acquire, evil bay $17
    * Heat Gun- Bunnings Ozito 2000w 2 sp Variable temp
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) really big with dual paddels
    * minimum quantity roasted so far 400g
    * maximum quantity roasted so far 600
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time Kind of wanted more control of off and on of paddles
    * max run time without mod about 14 min before resting
    * comments re other mods required, yes had to shorten the paddles
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing, not done that yet
    * any general comments re use I like the dual paddles and big pan
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]

    I love it. I used popper befor BM but BM is sooooo much better. Not sure how to add caption to photos but you get the picture Im sure. ;)












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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Here are a couple more photos

    forgot to mention I did rip the guts out the BM, I left only the motor a switch and a capacitor and thats it, you can see from the photo above that there is nothing left on the display board on top.






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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    My stealth roaster (I had to pinch it out of the cupboard and set it up while SWMBO was at lunch)

    * Make / model - Sunbeam Bakehouse (BM5600)
    * where/how did you acquire - Stole it from the pantry while the Bwana wasnt looking
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) - 13 X 13 X 16
    * minimum quantity roasted - I havent tried a small roast yet
    * maximum quantity roasted - 640g
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no - No
    * max run time without mod - This one has a butter churning cycle, 30 minutes run time with no heat.
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) - Apart from taking the lid off, nothing yet.
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing - Two locations based on a 600g roast size. One in the bottom third and one in the top third.
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) - I use a Bosch variable heat gun and havent had to set it above 500C to achieve first crack by 12 minutes. The stand for the heat gun is a gravity feed spraygun holder.

    It took me about 20 minutes to set up for my first roast while Her Indoors was at lunch with her sister. All my stealth was for nothing though because I didnt factor in the lingering smell.


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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model_ Breville Bakers Oven BB290
    * Where/how did you acquire_Good Guys. I hand over the money and then they give it to me. Not available any more, but second hands can be found in local classifieds and website classifieds.
    * Internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)_Guestimate about17 cm square. Depth 25 cm approx.
    * minimum quantity roasted._ 300 grams.
    * maximum quantity roasted_ 800 grams. I would not do that again.
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time _ No.
    * max run time without mod_ 27 minutes.
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing_Entry from side hole into bread pan about 2 cm from bottom and 2 cm intrusion of probe into bean mass. Tip facing into the same direction of the rotating bean mass.
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)_ Not required.
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) The console can be used to attach the heat gun to with sticky tape, thus can do without a heatgun stand.
    A 10 minute cooling safety feature in built. Meaning it cant be re-started straight away unless it can be by passed by mods.
    I use that 10 minutes to bag the beans, and weigh/ blend green beans prior to next roast.
    Recommended load is 600gm greens for optimum result based on the size of the pan.
    * Pics here.









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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Meet R2D2.....

    I have just made the jump from popper to Coretto for roasting and have been very happy with the results.
    * Make / model - Tiffany TS-018S
    * where/how did you acquire - Charity shop, $10
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) 15x15x15
    * minimum quantity roasted - 300g
    * maximum quantity roasted - 300g (only 1 roast so far)
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time no
    * max run time without mod - 20 mins on dough cycle
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) Paddle didnt need shortening, but the bread bowl protrudes above the base of the machine (see 2nd pic), so to retain heat, I used only the alloy lining from the lid and made a height adjustable gap to allow chaff to escape (see third pic).
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing In a bottom corner, facing direction of bean flow, about 8mm from the bottom
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) I bought a Tiffany based on reports elsewhere on CS that it needs no modification. So far, I am very happy with the set up. My first roast took 15minutes, but I need to extend the first crack-second crack interval by finessing the heatgun height. Note the polypipe mounting for the heatgun - it swivels and is height adjustable.
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)







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    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    Not sure how best to manage this, Mods can do whatever they want with it.

    Ive some updates for the Tiffany TS-018S.

    * Maximum quantity roasted: 500g (and I reckon thats about the limit, *might* do 600g but the 500g batch was a bit uneven)
    * If further runtime is desired it is easy to mod this one for continuous running (PM me for details, I think I also posted the details in my "First roast" thread on the Home Roasting board).
    * Due to the round body I used a bead type TC into a hole drilled into the bottom corner of the pan, retained on the pan by Kapton (high temperature insulation) tape rather than drilling a probe through the outer body, also makes it easier to pull the pan.

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    My first roast: setup was 8" stainless steel pot from camping kit, wooden spoon to stir with, Fluke 289 DMM with thermocoupler and hand held heat gun (exhausting)!

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    Hi rowdee, i have just aquired this very same bread machine and I was wondering what cycle do you select to use for your roasting and do you know how long it lasts? Thanks

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    G'day BeanBuff...

    These threads are for information only mate, not discussions. Perhaps you could open a new thread in the general discussion area...

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