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    Quote Originally Posted by 746E636270667E7474070 link=1277375158/99#99 date=1281151117
    Has anyone lately roasted beans on the baby roaster or have any feedback to offer? Haven,t had luck searching for user,s reviews on the net. Anyone have any links to post for us to see? Cheers. Gary
    It has a thread on coffee geek

    Not sure if it will give you any more info as it has here on CS

    http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/461463

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69737E7F6D7B6369691A0 link=1277375158/98#98 date=1281150835
    Aren,t all the water and gas pipes made of copper?

    Most domestic water piping was/is copper, they now use plastic a lot , gas doent matter as you dont ingest gas .
    lm only wondering as lve read various stuff on coppper when reseaching my daughters elevated levels that she had, you can take extra zinc and that will help eliminate excess copper too.

    lm pretty sure roasting in one of these wouldnt cause any great problems once you ran a couple of batchs through it and got a coating on the inside of the drum anyway.... l was just wondering if stainless was an option :)

    Cheers ken

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    Ken i think you should get the result you need by contacting them directly. You should get it quite promptly as i already fired questions to them and they responded next day.

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    Thanks Gary , lll check it out :)

    Cheers Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by 352F222331273F3535460 link=1277375158/102#102 date=1281168604
    Ken i think you should get the result you need by contacting them directly. You should get it quite promptly as i already fired questions to them and they responded next day.

    Gary
    Copper was chosen for its conductive properties and once seasoned, I cant see that its an issue. Roast a couple of batches and you will be right to go...

    I suspect that if you want in in silver, gold, titanium or stainless that there will be someone somewhere who would be happy to custom make what you want. All comes down to how the arm length to pocket depth ratio matches up ;)

    Keep in mind also that there is plenty of stainless which is not stainless at high temperature...

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    Hi Chris , yeah lm probably worring about nothing hey :)
    l reckon theyd be a great little roaster ......l like like the idea of this type of unit, lve shot em off an email about stainless steel ,so itll be interesting to see what they come back with hey .

    Unfortunately lm just your average wage earner so the pockets are always light on :)

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    I scored a manual version from Cuppacoffe last weekend because (a) there were no motorised ones left and (b) I thought a manual one would do for the last minute roast or small batch need.

    I already had a Kookaburra brand butane camp stove so I set about roasting 200grams of China Hougu semi-washed. This is one bean that doesnt rate very highly for me compared to other beans in my stash and was happy to sacrifice it in the name of science.

    As this was a drum seasoning roast, I didnt worry about timing. After what seemed like about 20 minutes, it still hadnt reached 2nd crack, I aborted the roast. *There was a *slight breeze and it was enough to disturb the flame which meant there wasnt enough heat delivered to the drum.

    So I relocated to a more sheltered spot and did another 200grams with timer. First crack appeared after 12 mins and after 22 mins again didnt look as though it would reach second crack. Pulled this roast - it had reached about CS7.

    As there wasnt much chaff being delivered, I retreated indoors and used my gas cooktop with 200 more grams of Hougu. Much better this time. First crack at 6 mins, second crack at 13 mins. I could still hear the cracks above the roar of the range hood exhaust fan.

    I tried this batch about 5 hours later as an espresso and it was pleasant: the usual sweetness and subtle flavour with a hint of greenness about it. Fairly high level of acidity and very little body. (My very first roast of this bean several months ago yielded very little acid).

    I can also report that the crema was not bubbly and gassy, unlike roasts based on hot air methods (popper, corretto, KKTO)

    This mornings first cup was much better. . It was prepared as a latte but it was a bit of a fast pour. Sweet with what *I can only describe as a honey-like flavour, a good *length which I had not experienced from this bean before. I had another just after 9am using a finer grind and the result was even better. It still doesnt lift my appreciation of the Hougu that much but the results from the FZ-RR 700 are certainly impressive.

    Some observations:
    - Being the manual model, I had to turn it by hand which wasnt a problem I though. I had to turn it using the long handle as there was no traction from the short handle (lid) end. If you turn with one hand, you get short jerky motions as I couldnt tun continuously. On the final roast, I used two hands to roate and achieved a smoother turning motion. I also turned a little slower and the final roast was more even than the others. I think I will track down a small crank handle to attach to the end of the roaster handle to allow me to turn (a suggestion for the Coffee-Tech, perhaps)

    - rotating by hand means you tend to the roaster base around on the burner, so you need to turn fairly gently or find a way to anchor the base so it doesnt move (or get the motorised model)

    - You need a good heat source in a sheltered but well-ventilated spot (the instructions that came with the gas stove make a big deal about the carbon monoxide hazard).

    - there wasnt mach chaff generated in this semi-washed bean. A small amount escaped from the end of the roaster but landed on the cooktop and was easily vacuumed away afterwards. There was a fair bit of chaff still attached to the bean and spent several minutes passing from colander and colander to remove it.

    - Be careful as chaff may land in the flame and ignite. It tends to burn away quickly but still a potential hazard.

    - the aroma during roasting is sensational which lends itself to indoor (with a low chaff bean) or balcony roasting (so not p*ssing off neighbours as much.

    So, finally, anyone with small roasting needs should get one of these roasters - or get one anyway; the results are worth every cent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 636D7B693B3A080 link=1277375158/105#105 date=1281223475
    Hi Chris , yeah lm probably worring about nothing hey
    You are really, but never hurts to ask the question especially when health is a concern. As someone stated before copper is extensivelly used in piping for water as well as in coffee boilers etc etc. Your not making a soup in it...it is a dry roasting process.

    Stainless steel does not make for great drum material. You can get various grades that are better but they are not the best heat conductors for coffee roasting and they also retain the heat making it harder to control roasts. I have roasted with stainless steel drum, its not ideal, mild steel is mostly used in commercial roasting drums as it is a much better heat conductor and gives you more control over the roast.

    The manufacturer specifically used copper in this design as it gives maximum control and conduction which is absolutely necessary for this device to work as it does. You will notice that you dont need to preheat the drum at all, it starts conducting right away and also will cool down quicked enabling you to make adjustments to heat a lot easier. You need this control in such a small drum otherwise you have little control in making changes to heat during the roast stages.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6E64716666697D7B080 link=1277375158/106#106 date=1281230165
    I think I will track down a small crank handle to attach to the end of the roaster handle to allow me to turn (a suggestion for the Coffee-Tech, perhaps)
    The gear motors can be added to all the manual versions down the track as an upgrade if you require. Great post though on results..thanks. And yes you are right...body is something that will improve over a few days..seems to be one of the benefits with a bit of age with this device. More so a benefit milk based but I have found that overextracting isnt as harsh and bitter in this device so I usually extract a bit longer and tighter if having as milk based early on.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6E64716666697D7B080 link=1277375158/106#106 date=1281230165
    Some observations:
    - Being the manual model, I had to turn it by hand which wasnt a problem I though. I had to turn it using the long handle as there was no traction from the short handle (lid) end. If you turn with one hand, you get short jerky motions as I couldnt tun continuously. On the final roast, I used two hands to roate and achieved a smoother turning motion. I also turned a little slower and the final roast was more even than the others. I think I will track down a small crank handle to attach to the end of the roaster handle to allow me to turn (a suggestion for the Coffee-Tech, perhaps)
    Thanks for the advice. The technique I was shown by the manufacturer was not to do ful rotations but spin it back and forth then pick up for a shake every minute or so. This makes it easier and you still get the agitation.

    ;)

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    I,m in the same boat as you Ken, working to pay the bills and saving up for the baby roaster. It,s one of the reasons why i,m getting it, the affordability with the results. Will let you know when i finally get my hands on one n start roasting.

    Happy roasting Ken. Go ahead and get one.

    Gary ;)

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    A testimonial from Ruben who has a coffee bar in Italy,


    Hello Mr.Gary,

    Im using the motorized FZ-RR since March and its EXTREMELY effective as an
    artisan roasting device. The coffee you get is the same you can obtain from
    a professional roasting machine, you just need some practice since there is
    no electronics. You only need your ears, a alarm clock, and some
    suggestinons from my
    experience, that are:

    1. Put the FZ-RR on a double stovetop layer between its base and the flame,
    avoiding the direct contact with the flame.

    2. Find the right flame power in order to reach the first crack in around 10
    minutes, then lower the flame in order to reach the second crack in the next
    5 minutes. Total time to reach the second crack must be around 15 minutes.
    Most of the flavors "creates" between the 1st and the 2nd crack, it is a
    very important roasting stage.

    3.Ive roasted around 40 different single origins and the roasting times
    fairly do not change.

    4.Ive asked to a friend of mine to weld (well,it is not really a weld) 2
    "wings" inside the FZ-RRs batch to increase the "mixing ability" since Ive
    noticed
    a tendecy for a not even roast color because the coffee beans that are
    closely in contact with the batch received more energy that the others. The
    result is amazing!

    5.It seems that the engine last FOREVER. Let me tell you that Ive done so
    far more than 700 roasting cycles of 15 mins each...it means more than 175
    operating hours. I do evrey saturday 30 continuos roasting cycles for my
    coffee house needs.

    In a nutshell, from my direct experience the motorized FZ-RR is the ULTIMATE
    home coffee roasting device, and also a very sturdy and effective
    professionale device as well.

    Hope this is helpful, best regards...

    Rubens Gardelli


    Hope this information useful. Regards, Gary :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0B272E2E2D2D1A27293B3C2D3A3B480 link=1277375158/107#107 date=1281242733
    The gear motors can be added to all the manual versions down the track as an upgrade if you require.
    Yes, I think that would be a worthwhile addition.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0B272E2E2D2D1A27293B3C2D3A3B480 link=1277375158/107#107 date=1281242733
    spin it back and forth then pick up for a shake every minute or so
    I will try that first - sounds easier. I take it that it would be a bout a half turn spin either way. I did give it a shake every minute.

    Thanks.

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    Yeh about half turns back and forward holding the end of the long handle with your fiingers. Almost like a flicking motion, like clicking your fingers is how I can best describe it ;)

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    How much did people pay for this device, ie the motorized version?

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    380 introductory price

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A405542424D595F2C0 link=1277375158/106#106 date=1281230165
    ....200grams of China Hougu semi-washed. This is one bean that doesnt rate very highly for me compared to other beans in my stash

    I had another just after 9am using a finer grind and the result was even better. It still doesnt lift my appreciation of the Hougu that much but the results from the FZ-RR 700 are certainly impressive.
    I have had reason to re-evaluate this bean. The coffee I made this morning was sensational. As Mark suggested, it worked well with a tighter grind.

    This bean now reminds of MTC: sweet with strong toffee (not coffee) characteristics. Very pleasant indeed and Ill add another thumbs up for this roaster.

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    Im looking forward to trying other beans that havent worked that well for me in the past and, more importantly, ones that have, using other roasters.

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    Just touching on the chemical thing briefly it is common with Copper cookware to actually coat the cooking surface with Tin to prevent chemical/heat related reactions with foods while in use. In the case of this roaster fairly likely that due to the build up of coffee oils on the cooking surface after a few roasts that there is little to no interaction with the copper other than heat transfer in a similar manner to the Tin coating.

    Cool toy too *8-)

    When acidic foods are cooked in unlined copper cookware, or in lined cookware where the lining has worn through, toxic amounts of copper can leech into the foods being cooked.[2]. This effect is exacerbated if the copper has corroded, creating reactive salts.[3] Many countries and states prohibit or restrict the sale of unlined copper cookware

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4740444B43495C4C4B42250 link=1277375158/115#115 date=1281313534
    Just touching on the chemical thing briefly it is common with Copper cookware to actually coat the cooking surface with Tin to prevent chemical/heat related reactions with foods while in use. In the case of this roaster fairly likely that due to the build up of coffee oils on the cooking surface after a few roasts that there is little to no interaction with the copper other than heat transfer in a similar manner to the Tin coating.

    Cool toy too *8-)

    When acidic foods are cooked in unlined copper cookware, or in lined cookware where the lining has worn through, toxic amounts of copper can leech into the foods being cooked.[2]. This effect is exacerbated if the copper has corroded, creating reactive salts.[3] Many countries and states prohibit or restrict the sale of unlined copper cookware

    Could the same be said for Ally ? *A couple of bake runs with crappy beans etc *;)

    I was at a place where many fear to end up or go the; other weekend... *Some great urns that I could collect and swap out with the $25 roaster * :o :o

    My gut feel was that I could, once again upset some or many if I proceeded... Bugger... There were some great urns that would have made a great roasting vessel *8-)

    Once again restricted by belief systems *::)

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    I dont really understand this thing. How does all the chaff and smoke escape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 332837202D7970410 link=1277375158/117#117 date=1281328430
    I dont really understand this thing. How does all the chaff and smoke escape?
    I believe there is a smoke escape hole however the chaff stays inside with the beans

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    Chaff remains in the vessel.
    Smoke exits via 3 holes in the handle. This handle fits into place into one end of the roaster (opp end to motor). Basically it is an enclosed system with no airflow.
    Check out the video in the early pages of this thread.

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    Is it easier to get a better result with the automatic or is it better to go the manual and have full control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40647E7C7368110 link=1277375158/120#120 date=1281346113
    Is it easier to get a better result with the automatic or is it better to go the manual and have full control? *
    Either, but Id probably Id go the motorized version. Calling it automatic is a bit deceptive as you still have manual control over all aspects except the turning of the drum. I had a demo of the motorized version and have done about 4 roasts on the manual one and, roast-quality-wise, there is no difference.

    The advantage of the manual one is that you can roast anywhere without the need for a power outlet and I really havent found turning the drum manually that much of a chore. But you can still remove the motor and make it a manual if required.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7770656A67040 link=1277375158/119#119 date=1281334561
    Chaff remains in the vessel.
    You will get a small amount of chaff emerging from the holes but Im yet to try a chaffy bean.

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    I couldnt find the screw? I found the handle hidden in the funnel but have unwrapped everything and Im down the screw. Nothing major will pop down the hardware in the morning. But thought I would post this in case its somewhere I didnt look (dont know where unless its taped inside the roaster though :p)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6B4F555758433A0 link=1277375158/122#122 date=1281610317
    I couldnt find the screw?
    What screw Quom?

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    It says there is meant to be a screw to secure the handle into the base of the roaster and to secure the screw with a size 2 allen key? At the moment attempting to open the roaster is impossible. If I pull nothing happens so I assume I need to screw? But if I screw the handle comes off as it isnt secured to the cap to the roaster.

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    Mine was also missing. The thread is standard 4mm so I just found a screw in the toolbox. It doesnt matter if the screw sticks out a bit as there is nothing for it to snag on.

    Screw the other way. It is meant to be a firm fit so it doesnt flop around as it rotates, but it will loosen up enough in the first couple of roasts.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Thanks for that. Was thinking I was insane for a moment!

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    Just apply some heat on the gas cooker if the fit is tight in pulling out the end handle. The metal will expand quick enough to let you get the handle out easy. Not sure why the hex bolt was not there, I just checked a couple of boxes here and they were in the handle.

    I always leave the roaster with the handle out after roasting as it makes it easier to load while the metal is cold and put the handle back in. Otherwise you risk breaking the seal on the drum if you try and yank out the handle while the drum is cold..

    Cheers...Mark

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Any plans in the pipeline to produce a bigger batch version of this roaster? Say, 300g or even 500g roaster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7D5644675C764043415640405C330 link=1277375158/128#128 date=1281654297
    Any plans in the pipeline to produce a bigger batch version of this roaster? Say, 300g or even 500g roaster?
    No 200g is probably max and ideal using this method. Once you go bigger then air needs to be introduced to clear chaff,smoke and to apply more heat to the bigger bean mass to roast evenly changing the dynamics of the roaster.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    After making lots of grand speeches to the missus how I would not be spending any more money on "stupid coffee equipment" I have just put an order in for one of these and hope to pick up Tuesday.
    Very excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A7F7C6969786F7178641D0 link=1277375158/130#130 date=1281667017
    After making lots of grand speeches to the missus how I would not be spending any more money on "stupid coffee equipment" I have just put an order in for one of these and hope to pick up Tuesday.
    Very excited.
    It is good to preface those statements with "stupid". That way, you only have to explain why _this_ piece of equipment is not stupid. ;)

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    This is very interesting learning tool.
    How to order this? PM direct to one of site sponsor? Coffee Roasters?

    Sorry Newbie, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5153524E53593C0 link=1277375158/132#132 date=1281779156
    How to order this?
    Not sure of your location but Coffee Roasters or contact Chris at Talk Coffee in Melbourne

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 393C3F2A2A3B2C323B275E0 link=1277375158/134#134 date=1281785046
    Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.

    I would assume it is one in Israel.

    Chances of finding the same are possible but I couldnt comment on that.

    Go to Bunnings tomorrow. Pickup a Gasmate campstove and a couple of 4 packs of butane fuel for said stove.

    If you read, I dunno, a couple of hundred comments you will quickly grasp the fact that they work.

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    Plus they are on special. Picked mine up for under $18

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Quote Originally Posted by 5257544141504759504C350 link=1277375158/134#134 date=1281785046
    Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.
    Have a look at reply number 109 about directions. Everyone,s stove is different, so you,d want to adjust the flame in order to reach first crack in approx. 10 minutes, then reduce flame to reach second crack in approx. 15 minutes. I,d think doing it indoors on the gas stove would give more consistency than doing it outdoors as changing ambient temperatures and wind can play havoc with the results as Flynn aus found out. If you have an electric stove, then get the camping stove and do it inside. Keep a vacuum cleaner ready to extract the chaff after roasting.
    Will be getting mine around Tuesday. Arent the days long when you,re waiting? ::)

    Gary :)

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Quote Originally Posted by 3F3A392C2C3D2A343D21580 link=1277375158/134#134 date=1281785046
    Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important. *
    Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Will give Chris a buzz tommorrow to see how can I pick up this toy.

    Let go my coffee machine, get the roaster and start new journey with plunger, I have to :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 617760726F646B60050 link=1277375158/138#138 date=1281856836
    Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG. *
    Yep I reckon this is the way to go. It doesnt cost much to get a camp stove and an LPG bottle, relative to the cost of the roaster. In fact most would probably already have a bottle *:)

    On the agitation which I posted about earlier...Ive added some baffles using fold back clips. I clipped them to the shaft of the roaster. They dont extend out to the drum itself but sit amongst the bean mass that sits on top of the beans that are in contact with the drum and do a good of helping mix up this top layer of beans. Its just that I got tired of giving the roaster a shake every minute or so and the clips just help rotate the beans that sit above the beans that are in contact with the drum.

    Its early days so far with the clips in there, only done 2 roasts with them and so far so good. Im getting better/more even roasts to shaking the roaster. Im not worried about the appearance of an even roast, more so the result in the cup of an even roast.

    Javabeen.

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    Will buy gas stove with lpg tomorrow after picking up the roaster from Chris in the morning. Green beans arrived today (thanks Andy), will be picking up the 2.5kg of all the new greens (apart from the Robusta) at the Melbourne snobs get together on Saturday.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Quote Originally Posted by 7761766479727D76130 link=1277375158/138#138 date=1281856836
    Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG. *
    Ive been thinking of switching to LPG myself. Problem is most manufactures of these LPG camping stoves seem to pride themselves on how immensely powerful their stoves are. This Baby Roaster needs very little heat in my experience, so Id like something low powered which has very good flame control at low settings. Does anyone know of anything suitable?

    Ive found the GasMate generally much more powerful than is necessary for the job. I havent needed to use a flame setting any higher than the 2nd or 3rd mark from the lowest setting. And its a bit of a pain how quickly it goes through a gas canister. Ive only had the roaster for a few weeks, but am already on my 3rd one.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Javabean, Can u tell us what bullnose clips are, and how/where to get them? How do you install them?

    Cheers, Gary

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Quote Originally Posted by 153E3B3B570 link=1277375158/142#142 date=1281960940
    This Baby Roaster needs very little heat in my experience, so Id like something low powered which has very good flame control at low settings. Does anyone know of anything suitable?
    I agree it does need very little heat to get it going and responds very quickly to changes to flame.

    FWIW...Ive had no problem controlling the flame with my camp stove. It is sensitive but permits fine adjustments if that makes sense. I have no trouble stretching out a roast at any stage.

    Another alternative is a single burner that you can get from some of the cook shops. My mother in law has one so Ill play with it next time round her place. Maybe this is worth persuing?

    Im hoping to roast inside in the kitchen under the rangehood early next year and cant wait to try it out on a proper cooktop with a 1mj simmer burner. Reckon this is going to be adequate and fun, mess and all ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 564C414052445C5656250 link=1277375158/143#143 date=1281961859
    Can u tell us what bullnose clips are, and how/where to get them? How do you install them?
    Got my stationery wrong *:P, I meant fold back clips like these. Needless to say, you can get them from a stationery shop but most would have them lying round at home.

    Installing them was fiddly. I used a small one that I clipped to the shaft and then clipped a larger one onto the smaller one with the help of long nose pliers. I used the largest clip I could squeeze though the opening of the drum. It was my first attempt without physically modifying the roaster. It wont be my last attempt and Im sure others will tinker too ;D

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Nice one there Javabean,
    Great macro shot of ingenuity. ill give that a go after i do a few roasts without mods, then compare them. I wonder if using three sets of clips would improve things without being counterproductive....

    Happy roasting, Gary ;)

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    Thanks Gary.

    They work a treat. I did 3 roasts last night back to back of the Kenya Kagunya from beanbay. All roasts came out nice and rather even and I didnt need to give the roaster any shakes just let the agitators do their bit.

    I also found i could get repeatable roast times. I got very consistent results with all roasts having first crack and second pretty much at roughly the same time. Lets see if they cup similarly.

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Received my baby roaster today, spent 15 minutes unwrapping that seems like miles of plastic wrapping. Admiring the craftsmanship.
    Did a sacrificial roast of Brazilian natural pulp.
    On a low heat on my kitchen gas stove, first crack didnt arrive til 13 minutes, guessing i,m being a bit cautious. Then turned down heat to let first crack go into second crack which occured at 17 minute mark. I let it go into rolling second crack in order to go through full spectrum for drum seasoning.
    Did not notice much of aroma after roasting. Had to blow chaff off, will come up with a more efficient way of cooling later.
    For the second roasting, i used a Nicaraguan "cup of excellence" bean. This time around i started with a slightly higher flame upon which first crack arrived at 11 minutes which didnt stop until second crack arrived at 14 minutes. The time that first crack started, the flame was turned down slightly to try and prolong maillards and sugar development.
    Again, this time upon cooling, i didnt notice much of aroma.
    Anyway, i waited til cool, and proceeded to grind the beans for the plunger. I,m not sure how to describe it fully, but it had a full, lingering flavour in the cup. I can still taste it now. No strange aftertaste which you would get if you roasted it some other way.
    As far as plungers go, it tasted great. I cant wait to retrieve the EM 6910 and try it out as an espresso.
    So far at this early stage, i am pleased with the result. Will keep everyone informed of further subsequent roasts and notes.
    Also note this is not a machine for utter dummies. It requires you to have a attentive approach to this kind of roasting because of the manual aspects.
    Watch this space.

    Feel like another coffee now...

    Gary

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    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Behmor Coffee Roaster
    Quote Originally Posted by 100A070614021A1010630 link=1277375158/148#148 date=1282205717
    ...first crack arrived at 11 minutes which didnt stop until second crack arrived at 14 minutes
    Ive noticed the same thing with a couple of roasts of Yirgachefe yesterday (and also one last week). First crack started at 11 and 8 mins respectively and the cracks didnt seem to stop even when i pulled the roast judging by colour (at 15 and 13 mins respectively).

    Weird.



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