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    Quote Originally Posted by javabeen View Post
    My roaster does not reach charge state ie where it tells you to load the beans.
    Neither does ours....Perhaps it might be a firmware thing?

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    How are people finding the Roast Time software? I'm obviously missing a dependancy because whenever I try and run it the app crashes.
    Does anyone know what software I'm supposed to have installed. I've found finding information on the support software kinda hard to come across? (I hope I'm in the right place to post this)
    Apart from that I've been loving this roaster, but I'd love to be having the profiles and how it roasts recorded.

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    Hi Peter,

    Software is fiddly to install and you do need to follow the manual to the letter.

    Best place for your questions might be the Facebook users group.

    Cheers

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    My Roast time software works just fine. Installation was straight forward on my Windows 7 and also Windows 10 PC.

    I just followed the instructions as mentioned earlier by Talk Coffee. The only problem I have is when I resize the window and receive a nasty looking error message to which I click continue and it carries on ok.

    PM me if you want any details of the FB group if you can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Tomlins View Post
    How are people finding the Roast Time software?
    A new version has been released today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javabeen View Post
    My Roast time software works just fine. Installation was straight forward on my Windows 7 and also Windows 10 PC.

    I just followed the instructions as mentioned earlier by Talk Coffee. The only problem I have is when I resize the window and receive a nasty looking error message to which I click continue and it carries on ok.

    PM me if you want any details of the FB group if you can't find it.
    I've worked it out. Yay! Got a whole two minutes of roast profile
    I've updated the manual with the solution (though not with screenshots alas)
    The problem was the driver was installing on both interfaces (Followed the manual to the letter) So the solution was to disable "interface 0" which is the interface the you're not suppose to install the driver to. I'm guessing the correct software fix is to have code that checks for multiple interfaces and to choose the correct version and prompt if it can't see the correct version. I'd also wager that this is one of the causes for the Roaster not to be seen. Hopefully the next release will package it all up into one nice install that does all the setup for you.

    Hopefully this helps someone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    A new version has been released today.
    Interesting I looked for the update but it didn't say that there was one. I'm running 1.0.0.33 (And firmware build 366). Maybe it auto updated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Tomlins View Post
    Interesting I looked for the update but it didn't say that there was one. I'm running 1.0.0.33 (And firmware build 366). Maybe it auto updated?
    There is some kind of an auto update, it works like. If you open up Roast Time, and there is an update. The next time you open the software, it will auto install the new update. I'll always open ups the program two times. To make sure I have the latest.

    There are no auto update for the firmware.

    //Rasmus

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    How are people going with these roasters? Latest emails from Aillio said the Bullet will now come standard with a tryer and they are working on issues with the bean temp probe giving variable results. Any firsthand experiences Snobs could share?

    Sniff

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    Loving the roaster, software is still giving me a few issues but that will improve over time. Really enjoying the roasts.

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    Tried to order the Tryer, Australia isn't listed in countries for shipping. Is this just me? Has anyone else noticed that Australia isn't listed.

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    I suspect you'll have to buy it from the Australian importer - ECA

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    I'm so keen for ECA to clear this for distribution.

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    No its not just you Australia's not listed. I've contacted Aillio so let's just wait and see what they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    I'm so keen for ECA to clear this for distribution.
    Me too. Hopefully when cleared ECA can distribute them with the tryers installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SniffCoffee View Post
    Me too. Hopefully when cleared ECA can distribute them with the tryers installed.
    From what I've read, anything coming out of the factory from now on* will have the trier plate preinstalled.

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    They've added Australia to the list of countries for shipping the tryers. It's approx $90. Order placed :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by javabeen View Post
    They've added Australia to the list of countries for shipping the tryers. It's approx $90. Order placed :-)
    I've see on a couple of videos where the chaff falls out into the bean cooler, does this happen with your one or was it a early model and has been rectified.

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    Yes it does happen to mine and I believe it's part of the design as there is a dedicated gap.

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    have the preorder deliveries started yet & anyone got theirs?? what are your thoughts??

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    As far as I know no machines imported via ECA are in the country yet, so no preorders via sponsors have been fulfilled. I contacted ECA the other day to enquire when things would hit the ground but they (understandably) didn't disclose. But trying to read between the lines it appears their feedback has made its way to the factory. Aillio have begun a second run of machines for delivery in December, but these may not be the machines that meet Aus spec, so might be the following manufacturing run. Bit of a ways to go yet, but the wait means more reliable product in this instance as there seems to have been a lot of good feedback from the early adopters.
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    But people in Aus do own them. You can read their comments around here and elsewhere (Facebook group, Aillio A1 unofficial forum etc.)

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    awesome, thanks for the feedback, cant wait till they hit the shores!!

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    Keep in mind that's conjecture, not official info from ECA or Aillio. Aillio did say in their latest newsletter that there had been a delay on the second round of manufacturing "to make some improvements for everybody" but I'd be surprised if that wasn't just some tweaks based on the feedback from early adopters and the building in of the tryer plate more than anything.

    I can't wait either. Not that I can fully afford one, but I'll be able to make it far more likely when they're on a shelf somewhere ;-)

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    Has anyone received their tryer yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_Tomlins View Post
    Has anyone received their tryer yet?
    Mine came installed three weeks ago.

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    Taking their sweeeeet time arriving here. Still not a squeak from any Aussie channels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    Taking their sweeeeet time arriving here. Still not a squeak from any Aussie channels...
    "The word" is that the Aussie run will be the first of 2017 production...

    We shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    "The word" is that the Aussie run will be the first of 2017 production...

    We shall see...
    Classic. We'll see indeed So unless they're in the middle of that 2017 run - factoring in Chinese New Year, production starts up again on 5th Feb, assume 3-4 weeks for production run and testing, and 3 weeks shipping out of Taiwan to Sydney.. then ECA bench testing for a week or two.. mid April is my guess!

    However their website does say 6 weeks lead time, in which case we might all be pleasantly surprised with a first of autumn arrival. Not holding my breath.
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    Confirmed via FB message with Aillio that "We are in production mode right now and it will continue through CNY and beyond". But that's all I could get, went silent after that (Understandably)

    Oh, and they also said it's a good time to order as "it's likely we should have some stock left after CNY" - which means that they're possibly expecting to deplete stock before CNY...
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    any updates on shipping??
    also a couple of q's,
    -what do you guys use for the seasoning roasts (throwaway bean?)
    - what extraction system are you using? I'm a tad confused on what i will need, is it just one of these:
    https://aillio.com/?page_id=12771&v=3d9975706be3
    coupled with something like this:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-Un...7-86178cf2e3d9
    hanging out the window?
    Cheers
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    Last I heard they were shipping (from Taiwan) mid Feb to early March. They'll be landed and bench tested before they reach retailers and are onshipped to us. Another month _at_least_ yet. Alas.

    I've got some beans waiting for use as seasoning. They're not garbage beans but I obviously won't be drinking them. However I intend to use the seasoning to learn as much about the roaster behaviour.

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    thanks for the update readeral. Where abouts do you get seasoning beans from? I'm looking at getting some decent beans as well as some for seasoning

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    Oh they were some beans that I bought from BeanBay that I don't really like, so not bought with the purpose of seasoning in mind. But just buy a cheaper bean from Beanbay or put up a WTB advert (after you've made 5 posts) and see if someone will on-sell you 2.5kg of beans they don't like much. I'm sure there'll be someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjm007 View Post
    any updates on shipping??
    also a couple of q's,
    -what do you guys use for the seasoning roasts (throwaway bean?)
    - what extraction system are you using? I'm a tad confused on what i will need, is it just one of these:
    https://aillio.com/?page_id=12771&v=3d9975706be3
    coupled with something like this:
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-Un...7-86178cf2e3d9
    hanging out the window?
    Cheers
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    For seasoning roasts I sacrificed a couple of kg of beans from a 60kg bag of greens as I couldnt get 'cheap sacrificial' beans from any roasters I approached. No dramas really.

    For ventilation/exhausting roast smoke, I took inspiration from what Aillio were using at MICE last year, albeit on a much more budget friendly level. I use an active system, an inline exhaust fan connected to some aluminium ducting - IXL 170mm Ventair Exhaust Fan available from Bunnings. NOTE: this is NOT attached to the exhaust of the Bullet and just sits about 4 inches above the exhaust and gently sucks away any smoke. Very effective. I went for the semi rigid ducting instead of the flexi ducting.

    I would not recommend attaching anything directly to the exhaust especially if you have an active system (fan) as it will affect the heat and airflow of the roaster.

    If you are inclined to attach a duct directly to the roasters exhaust make sure it has no fan sucking the smoke and keep the duct short. My thoughts are that long passive ducts might affect the roasters ability to effectively exhaust smoke. Best to speak to Aillio about this.

    Happy roasting (when it arrives)
    Javabeen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javabeen View Post
    For seasoning roasts I sacrificed a couple of kg of beans from a 60kg bag of greens as I couldnt get 'cheap sacrificial' beans from any roasters I approached. No dramas really.

    For ventilation/exhausting roast smoke, I took inspiration from what Aillio were using at MICE last year, albeit on a much more budget friendly level. I use an active system, an inline exhaust fan connected to some aluminium ducting - IXL 170mm Ventair Exhaust Fan available from Bunnings. NOTE: this is NOT attached to the exhaust of the Bullet and just sits about 4 inches above the exhaust and gently sucks away any smoke. Very effective. I went for the semi rigid ducting instead of the flexi ducting.

    I would not recommend attaching anything directly to the exhaust especially if you have an active system (fan) as it will affect the heat and airflow of the roaster.

    If you are inclined to attach a duct directly to the roasters exhaust make sure it has no fan sucking the smoke and keep the duct short. My thoughts are that long passive ducts might affect the roasters ability to effectively exhaust smoke. Best to speak to Aillio about this.

    Happy roasting (when it arrives)
    Javabeen.
    thanks for the info in regards to the ventair exhaust fan from bunnings, that looks nice and easy & relatively cheap - i might check that out!

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    Latest is "the very earliest would be March". It is what it is. I guess the coffeeparts listed "mid 2017" is as reasonable an estimate as we can expect. Just sucks for y'all who've been without the cash for some time now.

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    I don't think you will see them in March and agree with Pedro's estimates on when they may be available to purchase in Australia.

    Mine was one which arrived inoperative and was then really noisy and unusable with door issues etc. A replacement drum and a little tweaking has delivered a terrific little roaster and you would need to buy full commercial to chase better performance.

    The concept to delivery time has been prolonged, but it's a good thing. I consider we early adopters to be beta testers as such. The lads have been provided with plenty of in the wild field data and will help deliver a superior product to those who have waited for full production units.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    I don't think you will see them in March and agree with Pedro's estimates on when they may be available to purchase in Australia.

    Mine was one which arrived inoperative and was then really noisy and unusable with door issues etc. A replacement drum and a little tweaking has delivered a terrific little roaster and you would need to buy full commercial to chase better performance.

    The concept to delivery time has been prolonged, but it's a good thing. I consider we early adopters to be beta testers as such. The lads have been provided with plenty of in the wild field data and this help deliver will deliver a superior product to those who have waited for full production units.

    Cheers

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    Hey Chris

    Speaking of the noise, are you able to hear first and second crack over it? Also, have you had to clean the IR window (infra-red I presume)?

    Sniff

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    Quote Originally Posted by SniffCoffee View Post
    Hey Chris

    Speaking of the noise, are you able to hear first and second crack over it? Also, have you had to clean the IR window (infra-red I presume)?

    Sniff
    G'day sniff..

    A: Sure can (and my hearing is crap- too many gigs when I was younger)
    B: Not yet- though it will sorta happen when we finally receive the tryer kit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    The concept to delivery time has been prolonged, but it's a good thing. I consider we early adopters to be beta testers as such. The lads have been provided with plenty of in the wild field data and this help deliver will deliver a superior product to those who have waited for full production units.
    I agree. Would prefer a refined finished product than needing to seek support too often, so it's good that they're getting things right.
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    Got my tryer today

    The word is that all is go with just Aus compliance to complete now...
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    yesssssssss

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    Got my tryer today

    The word is that all is go with just Aus compliance to complete now...
    Thoughts on the usefulness of the tryer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    Thoughts on the usefulness of the tryer?
    So far, not much use. It's still in the box

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    So far, not much use. It's still in the box
    Probably not good for ventilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Probably not good for ventilation.
    The roaster has now done 40 or 50 roasts and I'm sold. The tryer will leave its box for installation- maybe even tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman View Post
    Got my tryer today

    The word is that all is go with just Aus compliance to complete now...
    So when you say with compliance to complete - does that mean up to this point ECA have been sorting issues of QC prior to starting compliance? (Or is it that compliance had begun..?) If so, I'd be fascinated to find out what the iterative process has produced! Obvs that info won't actually be available, but it can only be a good thing!
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    I understand that Aillio are attending to Australian compliance Al.

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    Hey Chris,

    Now can I ask you your thoughts on the trier?

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