2.8 kg with 1500W? I doubt it.. #30minroast
So I haven't seen a post on this yet but here is a new roaster coming out hopefully this year!
Currently in late prototyping stages it is shaping up nicely and specs are as follows:
1kg batch size
ET and BT measuring
front display with the 2 temp readings, can also display RoR and other important stuff
US 120v and 240v models
1550w power which when combined with the high efficiency of the design can translate to sufficient power for the batch size
USB ports and potential to share profiles and the like in the future.
Computer controlled roasting
Manual / Automatic control
10 Power levels
10 Fan speed levels
Variable Drum speed
External cooling tray
USB: Computer logging / control
Compensation to control input power fluctuations.
Roast cycles: no limit
5.6L Steel Drum
Length (without Cooling tray): 560mm
Width: (Legs) 320mm
Height: (without funnel): 390mm
There is a tonne of info on the homeroasters.org site and they even have the creator of it on there answering questions. There is a possibility of a tour through EU, USA and Aus this year.
Looks a beauty and priced between a hottop and the cheap chinese 1kgs. ~2k?
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2.8 kg with 1500W? I doubt it.. #30minroast
The 2.8 kg is apparently the weight of the drum. The roaster itself is claimed to have 1 kg roasting capacity and they've shown profiles that are teens or less minutes into second crack.
Interesting. A 1kg drum roaster that is plug and play in the home using 1500 W meaning no need for a 20amp power source. They claim they did 1kg 20-30 seconds into 2nd crack within 12 mins. I wonder what kind of heat source and air combination they are using to achieve that with 1500w.
Hi, this is Jonas from Aillio
If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here, and I will be happy to answer as much as I can. We are applying for a few patents, and the drum heating being one of them, so for these questions, I wont be able to say too much at this stage.
The obvious questions then: when can we buy and how much will it cost (locally)?
Could you explain a bit more about what you mean about connections?
Our design and engineering is done in Denmark, so we are here already.
We have started a UK company that will deal with getting everything approved so that each distributor does not have to go through this.
Our other products are already being sold in Europe.
I'd like to ask about cleaning please. One of the things I'm attracted to in a good 500 g or 1 kg roaster is that there is a separate cyclone that makes chaff much easier to handle and makes the roaster much cleaner. I have a small roaster which I need to break apart relatively frequently to take care of dust and chaff. Will your roaster be much friendlier in this regard?
As on the big roaster, the chaff will be taken out with the airflow. The fan motor and drum motor is completely separated from the chaff collector. The chaff collector which can be taken off, is half of the back part of the roaster. The other half is for the motors.
There are seals that make the chaffcollector airtight with the fan.
One of the things we really like is how easy it is to take out the impeller. Just one screw and you can pull it out as the chaffcollector covers half the fan housing.
Then you can soak it to clean out the oils.
Air pipes are sealed so I would be surprised if you find any chaff where they shouldn't be.
This is a really interesting looking little roaster - 1kg for sub $2.5-3K aussie will gather lots of interest!
Look forward to seeing the ongoing development…
Good one, thanks for the updates.
Certainly looks very interesting. Haven't been too many updates anywhere for a while - does the developer have any updates to share? I'm sure there are lots of people curious to know how things are going.
Well it's more a showing of it in action. Looks cool and quite sizeable. Next video will show the PC interface. Wonder how Jonas and Co. will tackle the flying beans coming from the dump door?
The flying beans sure are obvious!
Looks good, the agitation maybe a tad too vigorous ? Was that to end of first crack ?
Hmmm, I also like the look of this. Look forward to it's release to the Oz market.
For those that have been looking at this roaster,
I just received in update from them, most intersting detail from the update is:
"So when can we get one please? The only question that really matters right?- and the answer is: Mid 2015"
they have updated their website, including a brochure pdf
Looks great but I do notice that the dump door has not changed which may still mean bean flying everywhere like in the prototype. I'm still very keen and think this may be a strong contender for first roaster purchase as opposed to DIY.
Wow! That looks like a very cool roaster for home use. I'll look forward to see how it develops.
They're taking pre-orders on these with an ETA of July 2015.
To update this thread, an importer (not us) has been appointed and the Bullet will be coming to Australia. The importer will commission electrical testing to certify it for use for use in Australia in the same way as was necessary for the Brazen and it can then go on sale. My gut tells me we may well be looking at late 2015-mid 2016- but I have been wrong before!
I understand that Aillio has a handful of operational roasters now and I'll post again once we receive confirmation that our evaluation unit is heading our way. Here's hoping it works well.
Definitely a sexy looking machine. Will be interested to see how it goes in the real world!
Just FYI...Your spec sheet download link doesn't work.
I'm keenly watching this space too for updates on the Bullet. One thing I did notice today while browsing the blog section of Aillio's website, is a sample roast they did on the Bullet that went 1:15 (!!??) into second crack. I hope this roast level is not the benchmark for all their tests ...
That's a typo... the graph in that blog post shows first crack at 9:10, second crack at 12:30 and drop at 13:15.
Just to let everyone know that 2 months post transfer of funds, we are yet to extract even an invoice for funds sent.
Must say that this looking more and more like a gamble and I'm hoping that we have not purchased vapourware.
Their newsletter from the beginning of the week looks interesting.
Aillio Bullet R1 Heating & Pre-Order PayPal
Heats via induction!
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With all of that, they're still falling down on communication and there is no acceptable excuse for the absence of paperwork.
Yes, time will tell....
New newsletter out and apparently they have added bluetooth conneectivity
I found them to have an amazingly poor level of communication. Basic simple marketing stuff. The whole thing made me way too nervous to pre-order. Hopefully it'll all work out and we'll see some real world testing sooner rather than later. I went another route.
One kilo seems quite a large capacity for home use. Speaking for myself I drink a pourover every day at work, around 12g per day, then a double espresso ( 18g vst basket ) each day of the weekend so too my better half, so 36g x 2 = 72 + 60 = 142g per week not including wastage. Roasting in 2-300 g batches suits me much better, wonder if this machine a bit over specified for a lot of domestic users.
Other than that why don't they stump up the cash for an admin assistant to do all the emails and invoicing. They're based out of Taiwan, where wages are approximately a quarter of Aud wages. If businesses who will ultimately represent their product, like Talk above, are not feeling heard, then cracks are definitely appearing. Internet sales require no investment in bricks and mortar, but a higher level of service and communication in my opinion.
No, they are based in Denmark but will operate from the UK. The roaster will be manufactured in Taiwan. See earlier in this thread for the response from Jonas of Aillio:They're based out of Taiwan ...[
Chris from Talk Coffee has kindly agreed to buy and evaluate one of the first Aillio R1S. If it turns out to be suitable, he may well be the Australian distributor but time will tell.
It will be perfect for my needs, we go through about 1.5kg of beans a week, quite painful going through the process with the Gene at the moment.
Hopefully some will be getting their evaluation units soon.
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Look forward to your unbiased appraisal Chris.
How much are you looking for a deposit on any preorders ? Please PM me with details
I noticed that someone from Aillio was in Sydney today demonstrating at a coffee shop (check instagram).
This roaster looks great! and at the price point seems like a great starting point. Only thing missing is a "tryer" to check the beans
Has anyone else heard anything about when these arrive? And is there anyone else willing to take the plunge with Chris?
Also noted that they will be demoing the unit at "Moore park" im guessing in syndey from the 3-5 Sep.
Anyone around going to have a look?
Chris, are you distributing for them as well?
I was lucky enough to spend some time with Jonas the other day who went over the design/use/features of this roaster - Thanks Jonas!
We'll definitely be ranging this and hope to have stock later this year. If possible we'll also have a working demo for those in Sydney . Stay tuned for pre order details or make contact to go on the list,
Not sure if it was the my bad phone speakers or the filming but it was impossible to hear any first or second cracks in the video on talkcoffee website
So are you posting about your phone, or the filming?
I'm posting about the roaster.... I was just curious about how easy it is to hear the beans crack. It just seemed really hard to hear anything other than the drum motor and the beans getting tossed around. I'm sure it's much easier in person to differentiate between the sounds. I really like the look of this roaster and will be waiting to hear reviews from the lucky first testers/owners when they arrive