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    ...or a filter brew or pour over.


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    Yep, worst case they taste like #%^%#.

    Just be mindful if you have a small domestic grinder like a Breville smart grinder they can struggle grinding the very light roast beans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile View Post


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    Buut II liikee suucceessiivee vooweels!


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    A question I received via email and have answered here to help others...

    When roasting in the manual mode which peofile gives you the highest heat P1 or P5?
    Answer is P5

    Manual
    P5 = 100%
    P4 = 75%
    P3 = 50%
    P2 = 25%
    P1 = 0%

    See attached Cheat Sheet.
    Attached Files Attached Files
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    Behmor 1600 Plus - Coffee Roaster

    You can also look at the portion of red/blue rings around the buttons to recall the %.

    Cheers
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    Hi Andy, Just wondering when will be the Behmor upgrade kit be available for sale again?

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    From Beanbay
    ## OUT OF STOCK ## Best guess, August 2017 before the factory builds more.
    When available they will show here.
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    I noticed my bean cylinder is getting a bit squeaky. The manual talks about food grade grease to apply to left side peg end of the cylinder. Does anyone have a recommendation on food grade grease to use and where to buy from. I'm guessing it needs to be able to handle the high temps of the inside of the Behmor.

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    a drop of Olive oil works fine... and is food grade, cheap and you prob already have it!
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    I notice on the Behmor web site they have a new model of the roaster "Available soon"..with integration to your phone for creating roasting profiles etc. Has anyone heard any more about this, and when they may be available in Oz?

    See here: New – Behmor

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    The old thread for this version of the Behmor is here:

    Behmor 1600 Connected: Bluetooth & WiFi
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    Do you know guys plus panel is it the same 240/120V?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcc View Post
    Do you know guys plus panel is it the same 240/120V?
    Totally different.

    We have 220/230/240 upgrade panels arriving next week (best guess)

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    Andy, any idea on the approx cost for the upgrade panels? Apologies if I have missed it previously!

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    ...approx cost will be one million dollars.
    The accurate cost will be in BeanBay after they arrive here and should be a bit less than that.

    The ship docks today, container will touch Australian soil tomorrow, on a (bloody expensive) truck on Thursday and container arrives at the Snobbery Thursday or Friday for unpacking.

    At that point I'll know what all the customs and clearance charges are and what the cost will be. Soon after that point they will be available in BeanBay.
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Other Stuff - Behmor 1600 Plus - UPGRADE GRAMS
    ...and as everyone who has ever muttered the words knows, asking "are we there yet" will never make it faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View Post
    Andy, any idea on the approx cost for the upgrade panels? Apologies if I have missed it previously!
    They are in BeanBay now.

    Customs was nice on the parts (well, as nice as last time) so the cost has remained the same on this shipment.
    The roasters will be going up though, higher cost, lower dollar and freight to AU nearly double.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    They are in BeanBay now.

    Customs was nice on the parts (well, as nice as last time) so the cost has remained the same on this shipment.
    The roasters will be going up though, higher cost, lower dollar and freight to AU nearly double.
    How can I order with International shipping Andy?

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    Can anyone tell me if the behmor roaster ships with a user manual. I just recieved mine but could not find one in the box or online [yet].

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    Thankyou very much Barry and Empty123.
    At the beginning of my learning curve roasting.
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    I have an old clapped out 1600 that takes about 16 minutes to get 100g of most beans past the first crack and forever to the second crack where it tastes horrible. As well as this the elements cycle on and off during the roast when set at P1 is this normal? Does anyone know if the metric upgrade panel might fix this please?

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    The elements will cycle on and off, that's normal. If you do upgrade to the 'plus' panel, you can force the elements to stay on using the manual control settings.
    When was the last time you gave it a thorough cleaning? If you haven't cleaned inside the roasting chamber for a while, you'll get an accumulation of roasted coffee goodness on the internal walls. This will impede the temperature sensor doing it's job and will greatly lengthen the roast time. The sensor is located behind the right hand vertical internal panel (adjacent to the control panel). Give this panel a clean with some 'simple green' cleaner and wipe off. You should then see the roaster doing its thing in the right time frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    I have an old clapped out 1600 that takes about 16 minutes to get 100g of most beans past the first crack and forever to the second crack where it tastes horrible. As well as this the elements cycle on and off during the roast when set at P1 is this normal? Does anyone know if the metric upgrade panel might fix this please?
    The new 1600 Plus replacement front panel may well resolve your issue. I have a 4 1/2 year old Behmor which behaved very similarly to yours after 50 odd roasts and less than a year old.

    It struggled to get to first crack and baked rather than roasted. Changed sensors, the side control board and tried a couple of other suggested fixes from Behmor. No joy and frustrated, I shelved it for about 3 years. At the point of tossing it I thought I'd spend the $60 and try the 1600 Plus front panel. Instant fix and back to roasting with heaps more control available with the new functions.

    Apparently it has been discovered that some of the electronics didn't like the harsh environment and heat. $60 not a lot to spend to find out if this will fix your issue.

    If you do try it let us know here so others may benefit from your experience.

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    Thanks CafeLotta and Lovey, I'll get the panel and give it a clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Thanks CafeLotta and Lovey, I'll get the panel and give it a clean.
    Here's the link to the 1600 Plus new functions (shown in imperial not metric) in case you missed it earlier in this thread.

    http://www.behmor.com/docs/New-Progr...-Plus-V4.2.pdf

    My 1600 Plus front panel didn't ship with any instructions or links to them and the updated Behmor site doesn't seem to show it. A few links seem to have disappeared.

    A useful video on how to install the new front panel -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKZuir8fQA

    From memory the middle screw on the bottom of the side panels requires a special shape screw bit to undo it. From memory I think I bought a set of security screw bits from bunnings for $10-20 which had the right one in it.

    The quick start manual shows the critical areas to clean on the last page -

    http://www.behmor.com/docs/Short-Gui...-v8.0-OP-L.pdf

    or video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY85Df-20-c

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    Here's the link to the 1600 Plus new functions (shown in imperial not metric) in case you missed it earlier in this thread.

    http://www.behmor.com/docs/New-Progr...-Plus-V4.2.pdf

    My 1600 Plus front panel didn't ship with any instructions or links to them and the updated Behmor site doesn't seem to show it. A few links seem to have disappeared.

    A useful video on how to install the new front panel -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKZuir8fQA

    From memory the middle screw on the bottom of the side panels requires a special shape screw bit to undo it. From memory I think I bought a set of security screw bits from bunnings for $10-20 which had the right one in it.

    The quick start manual shows the critical areas to clean on the last page -

    http://www.behmor.com/docs/Short-Gui...-v8.0-OP-L.pdf

    or video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY85Df-20-c
    Thanks heaps CafeLotta those will be invaluable! I will post the results once cleaned and installed. This roaster is years old and has done hundreds and hundreds of roasts it's Gunna need more than Clean Green to get the build up off....

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    Do a 'dry burn' as per the manual, then hit it with some simple green, the residue will melt away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey View Post
    Do a 'dry burn' as per the manual, then hit it with some simple green, the residue will melt away.
    Not oven cleaner? The non caustic one you use.in a cold oven.

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    Is it a type that foams up? If so, I wouldn't recommend it, as foam is likely to expand and get into places that you might not want it to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    This roaster is years old and has done hundreds and hundreds of roasts it's Gunna need more than Clean Green to get the build up off....
    The Quartz heating elements are fragile so heed the warning about not getting any cleaner on them -

    http://www.behmor.com/docs/Manual_Up...and_DC_Fan.pdf

    You may want to check that the after-burner is working before taking off the sides and top. You can check this by doing the dry burn. Select 1/4 then Start. Once the cooling cycle starts, after 20 secs or so you should be able to see an orange glow through the perforations in the cover mounted on the internal roof of the Behmor. If not there may be a break in the wire element. If your confident in your abilities to do it safely, you can unplug the element with the top cover off. Then remove the internal cover and gently coax the element out taking note how it all fits in.
    If broken near the end of the wire you can gently stretch and re-attach otherwise a new element or element wire required.

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    Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?
    The element in the afterburner is fairly agricultural. The way the element wire is connected to the spade terminals is rough as and should at least have a washer either side I think to avoid putting a nick in the wire.

    Not sure if it affects the roast time when not operating as designed.

    I fixed mine while installing the new front panel. I figured it best to restore the Behmor back to original condition to avoid any hidden quirks in the system.

    Forgot to mention earlier that that the spade end wire connectors to the external spades have a clip you need to depress to remove them otherwise rough handling can break the ceramic element carrier.

    Apparently a broken element can also generate an error on the front panel display -
    "Err4 — General causes are either a bad draw fan, bad or loose connection, afterburners not working or malfunctioning front panel."

    It appears to be a fairly common fault in the Behmor and probably under designed for the job its meant to do.

    http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/519248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?
    It shouldn't lengthen roasting times, but in the process of trying to repair it you may well clean out a lot of crap that has built up inside the roaster. Note...the last time I fixed my afterburner, simply un-attaching and re-attaching the connectors did the trick (obviously there had been some movement over time....probably from being carried to the roasting bench).

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    Its broken near the end so in theory should be reparable and its little nook if full of crap! The whole thing is going to benefit from a clean inside and out when I install the new panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Its broken near the end so in theory should be reparable.........................
    When you do the repair, try adding the extra washer on each terminal so the element wire is sandwiched between the 2 washers. Less likely to put a nick in the wire which apparently is where most break.

    Someone mentioned that to test the afterburner you just need to hit the cool button and wait about 20 seconds to see if it glows rather than do the 1/4 START dry burn. Much quicker!

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    I have had success cleaning stubborn stains with a scourer (not too harsh variety). The added texture does wonders.

    Cheers
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    Is the fan on the right hand panel supposed to run all the time or only when it needs to cool things down?

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    The small pc fan on the side panel and the other one towards the rear should run whenever the roaster is operational.

    Cheers

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    Bugger, neither of mine are running. Any tips on how to fix this issue please?

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    Check connections of the fans to the control board.

    If you are tinkerer/tech capable, unplug fans and feed them 12v DC to see if they are working, if they are then you know its the roaster side.

    You can check for power from the control board to the fan connections but be careful as its 240v in there and also you can easily short something with meter probes and fry something further including yourself.

    If the fans work with external power and connections are sound, my guess would be its the control board, its quite cheap so might be worth a try?

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    Check connections of the fans to the control board.

    If you are tinkerer/tech capable, unplug fans and feed them 12v DC to see if they are working, if they are then you know its the roaster side.

    You can check for power from the control board to the fan connections but be careful as its 240v in there and also you can easily short something with meter probes and fry something further including yourself.

    If the fans work with external power and connections are sound, my guess would be its the control board, its quite cheap so might be worth a try?

    Cheers
    Thanks artman, I'm thinking ordering a new board and installing it is about my skill level as long as it's plug and play is no soldering....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Thanks artman, I'm thinking ordering a new board and installing it is about my skill level as long as it's plug and play is no soldering....
    Replacing the control board is finicky, but requires no special skills or soldering. Some of the clips can be little mongrels to disconnect, but as long as you are patient you'll be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makka65 View Post
    Thanks artman, I'm thinking ordering a new board and installing it is about my skill level as long as it's plug and play is no soldering....
    When I replaced mine a few years back, Behmor support sent me a link to step-by-step instructions with photos. Not sure if they still do this.

    Might be worth your while contacting them. Behmor Tech Support – Behmor
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    There's also a video on Youtube of a bloke replacing his PCB. Haven't watched it through.
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    I'm not sure what was going on before but the internal fan is now working fine and I've fixed the after burner. However the side fan is stuffed so off to Jaycar in the morning to see if I can get a replacement.

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    Mine died and I couldnít find one the same size, from memory I got the next size up and re drilled the mounting holes. I rotated it 45 degrees which matched the vent holes better. Resoldered the wires to the plug so itís still plug and play.

    Cheers
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    The saga continues....
    The fans are an intermittent problem so Andy diagnosed a faulty PCB. I'll update once it is installed.
    Some good news is that when I installed the new front panel, cleaned the sensor area and fixed the afterburner (all at once so it wasn't a controlled experiment) I roasted 100g of beans to 2nd crack in about 10 minutes, not to 1st crack in 16.
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    PCB and new fan installed! Just checking if this is the right way for the fan to be installed. This is the way the old one was an it blows air into the machine.

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