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    Green Bean Starter Pack...?

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    I look in this group with bemusement - There's such a huge range of beans being posted that I couldn't even start to think that I could or would want to try them all.

    Question I have, is what should I gather as a starter pack? I'd like to have 2-3(4?) bags of green beans to use as a base, to mix and have fun with.

    If it helps... My use is principally latte's with the occasional espresso. I prefer smoother rather than acidic and will typically over-dose my shots for the extra sweetness.

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    Why don't you order the starter pack and get 4 different beans selected by Andy?

    Failing that if you really want smooth...here's my 2 bob's worth.
    4 bags: either of the brazils; peru ; colombian or mexican; sulawesi blue
    or a bit more variety
    either of the brazils; peru or colomb or mexican; sulawesi blue; any of the Ethiopians (Yirg / Gambella / Sidamo / Harrar) or Tanazanian

    You can make a smoother version of a Mocha Java from the second list by using a 50% brazil base / 25% each of Ethiopian and Sulawesi.

    You'll work out what you like as you go along
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I have a starter pack from Andy (maybe I should have mention that, sorry) but I've no idea what the contents would do for me or if they represented a good mix.

    I used to frequently go for a starter pack of roasted beans and I found they varied quite a bit (I rather liked the variance to be honest, it's nice to try different roasts).

    I'll check to see what I've got in the pack and see how it aligns to your comments.

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    OK, no worries. What I did when starting out was try roasting a single origin or two that Andy's notes (or forum threads) suggest work in milk. Then I started replicating blends that you'll find on this site (e.g. KJM blend...that thread is well worth a read, particularly the start of it). Sometime I pre-blend the beans, on other occasions I'll roast a small quantity of each of 2, 3 or 4 beans, so that I can vary the proportions in the resulting blend or try each a single origin. So, for example if you've been sent the Brazil Pulped Natural, and Ethiopian, the Peru, and the Colombian, you could do worse than to separately roast roughly equal quantities of of each (or at least the South Americans) then try each as a SO, then try some diff blends. There is a downside to my approach.....you spend more time slightly adjusting the grinder. I really like Brazils as the base of most of my blends (the India Elephant makes a nice change though in this respect). Note, I have an i-Coffee roaster which is at its best for quantities b/w 150-250g.

    It's good fun no matter what.

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    How many different types of green beans do you have stocked? sounds like a 1/2 dozen or so?

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    Mmmmm......good question....prompted me to go and count them...16 bags, 15 different beans (including Decaf WOW blend). Didn't realise I had that many (bought quite a few when i first got the roaster). The ones that get the most use from me are the Brazil Pulped Natural, India Elephant Hills, Colombian VG, Peru Ceja de Selva, and Sulawesi Blue. Like you, I largely drink milk-based coffees, though I am training myself to appreciate straight espressos (actually ristrettos) more.....in anticipation of trying the new Yemen bean.

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    Hmm you just exposed my biggest fear... 16 bags - I had a laugh

    I'll have to find somewhere else to store my coffee because of (1) space and (2) visibility of what's going on by the wife...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicGrog View Post
    Hmm you just exposed my biggest fear... 16 bags - I had a laugh

    I'll have to find somewhere else to store my coffee because of (1) space and (2) visibility of what's going on by the wife...
    I've managed to get away with storing mine in an old Queen Anne dresser in the spare room. But that was no biggie, because I was previously storing some wine in it. Given the state of my other half's office, in which the 'nearest available surface' filing system is used, I'm pretty safe.

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    I usually have between 8 to 18kg of green beans and about 10 varieties. I stash them in equal quantities in my office cabinet and the upper pantry cupboards where my vertically challenged wife will not look

    On what beans to try, for lattes I would definitely recommend the Indian AA. Out of all my SOs, my friends all prefer the full bodied, and chocolate overtone of the Indian AA. I roast around CS9. I find the flavour starts to diminish after CS10 so don't over roast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saoye View Post
    I roast around CS9. I find the flavour starts to diminish after CS10 so don't over roast.
    There are those numbers again... how do I get a colour chart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicGrog View Post
    There are those numbers again... how do I get a colour chart?
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay
    There should be an item available - CS membership card. The colour chart is on the membership card.
    You are allowed one for free which you can add to an order. Once you claim your free one, the item does not come up again (I think) so I cannot actually see the link you would use.
    I can see the link for 'Replacement membership card' which is currently sold out, so perhaps the free ones are unavailable at present too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicGrog View Post
    There are those numbers again... how do I get a colour chart?
    From CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay

    Just select a card when you make your next order (the first one is free). I notice the replacement cards are showing as sold out so not sure about availability. In the meantime, you could make a printout of the mage of the card to use in the short term.

    I stash them in equal quantities in my office cabinet and the upper pantry cupboards where my vertically challenged wife will not look
    Terrible when we have to resort to hiding our stash. I have over 50kg of beans but in plain view. Fortunately, my wife supports my obsession ...errr.. hobby and reaps the benefits.

    There are more expensive or dangerous past times I could indulge in. If she ever starts to complain, I will go the library and borrow some books like "Sky-diving for dummies" or "The Joys of Arachnophilia". (No, I don't know if such books have ever been published but you get my drift )

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboy_1999 View Post
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay
    There should be an item available - CS membership card. The colour chart is on the membership card.
    You are allowed one for free which you can add to an order. Once you claim your free one, the item does not come up again (I think) so I cannot actually see the link you would use.
    I can see the link for 'Replacement membership card' which is currently sold out, so perhaps the free ones are unavailable at present too.
    But the link can still be found through google! CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay. But yes, they are out of stock.

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    Hmmm, CS membership cards are made to order, they aren't a "stock" item per-se. But because of the way BeanBay is built Andy probably has to occasionally give it some "fake" stock, ping him an email.

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    No... exactly as is says... they are out of stock.

    Until they are back in stock you can use the digital image:
    http://beanbay.coffeesnobs.com.au/Up...ges/CScard.jpg

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    Thanks I'll get that printed on some photo paper and the kids can laminate it for me

    Just checked the sample pack in it you put:

    Brazil Pulped Natural
    Ethiopian Gambella Sundried
    Columbian Volcan Galeras Supremo
    Peru Ceja de Selva Estate

    So it looks like a great mix many thanks.

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    I wish we could choose which beans we want rather than a random select.

    I'm new to roasting and want beans which would work ok for a popcorn roaster......

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    I think there's a pretty good chance that you get sent a range of beans that are easy to roast in most roasters. The mix that AtomicGrog received is pretty v.similar to that which I received (and they are all pretty tolerant...though Gambella can look a little uneven), and that which others have reported receiving. I think I might have dropped Andy a line at the time of ordering suggesting that I liked beans that go OK in milk....but no idea if that had any influence on the bean selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neofelis View Post
    I wish we could choose which beans we want rather than a random select.
    That would be hard to manage price wise as the price of each bean can be quite different. Have faith in Andy, he won't send hard to roast beans in a starter pack. I've bought about 20kg of greens so far and haven't purchased a starter pack yet I had a laugh



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