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    Super strong coffee

    Hi all,

    Just wondering how you all think that people achieve super strong coffee, while still using Arabica beans? For example, Killer Coffee is supposed to be 6 times strong than regular coffee (I've used it and it's bloody strong).

    How do you think the average roaster can achieve similar results?



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    timgus, what are you trying to achieve? How do you define strong?

    How do you brew it?
    How do you drink it?

    Killer Coffee 6x stronger than regular coffee, define regular coffee.

    To milk coffee drinkers my espresso is super strong.
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    Timgus, I asked similar and Level3Ninja here mentioned these sort of coffees add caffeine to the beans

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    Dan,

    I'd say that Strong Coffee would be coffee that is higher in caffeine content when brewed the same way you normally would. Ie a Latte made with 'A' coffee beans Vs a Latte made with 'B' coffee beans.

    Thanks 338,

    Never occurred to me that they might be adding caffeine. Their beans are always very dark and I was curious if different regions still using Arabica beans could achieve different levels of caffeine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timgus View Post
    Dan,

    I'd say that Strong Coffee would be coffee that is higher in caffeine content when brewed the same way you normally would. Ie a Latte made with 'A' coffee beans Vs a Latte made with 'B' coffee beans.

    Thanks 338,

    Never occurred to me that they might be adding caffeine. Their beans are always very dark and I was curious if different regions still using Arabica beans could achieve different levels of caffeine.
    "different regions still using Arabica beans could achieve different levels of caffeine" Yep, different regions and processing methods have different solubility and levels of caffeine (not to "killer coffee levels" I hasten to add). The solubility also indirectly alters the rate of caffeine extraction.

    If you really want a natural "off the scale" level of caffeine then buy an ibrik (preferably stainless not copper - my preference anyway) and do a traditional Turkish. Got me through far too many "all nighters" as a full time working student...
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    Quote Killer Coffee: "100% Australian Concocted, Roasted And Brewed."

    I think that says it all.

    I don't know about the regulations for coffee but for wine under the Australian standard anything derived from grapes isn't an additive, so for instance a "Winemaker's Red Blend" can be 10% grape skin extract and say nothing on the label.

    Assuming something similar applies to coffee, if you bought the byproduct from a decaf plant, concentrated it and added it to your coffee blend you wouldn't have to declare it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timgus View Post
    Hi all,

    Just wondering how you all think that people achieve super strong coffee, while still using Arabica beans? For example, Killer Coffee is supposed to be 6 times strong than regular coffee (I've used it and it's bloody strong).

    How do you think the average roaster can achieve similar results?



    Thanks,
    Tim
    Hi Tim
    In a current coffee world where lighter roasts are the norm, simply roasting darker (well into second crack) will give a much 'stronger' flavour through milk, but it may make it less palatable as espresso or filter. How Killer ends up with 6x the caffeine I'm not sure … caffeine bath after roasting? Or witchcraft?
    Don't really fancy the sound of it myself I'm afraid…

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    Quote Originally Posted by timgus View Post
    Hi all,

    Just wondering how you all think that people achieve super strong coffee


    Thanks,
    Tim
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    Quote Originally Posted by noidle22 View Post
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    Hahahaha! XD

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    Yeah there seems to be such an association of coffee just being a 'strong' drink, and many only refer to coffee when they go out as either strong or not, as though there's nothing else to it.

    I know, grind up 30g even finer than espresso grind, chuck it in a plunger, add 250ml of 100į water, stir vigorously, leave brewing for 20 minutes.

    Plunge, and drink! There's ya strength ;D
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    Try a really dark roasted bean (almost black and coating in oils ) and extract the hell out of it so get a very strong but also a very bitter brewski.
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