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    New to this ?

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    Hi All,

    I was after some suggestions on blending.
    What should I blend with what or should I keep orginal.

    I currently have:

    Kappi Royale Robusta
    India Mysore Nuggets A
    Nigarragua High Grown Bold
    Tanzanian Tanganyika AA

    In the next few days will be getting

    Ethiopian Yirgacheffe
    Mexico Veracruz Organic HG
    Indian Monsooned Robusta AA

    Im also new to roasting & not sure what level to take them to *:-/

    Cheers,
    Shane

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    Re: New to this ?

    Hi Shane,

    These two question get asked a lot (which is fine!), and the usual answers given are:
    - re: blending, "dont blend yet; roast AND taste them all as single-origins first, then you can try blending later"
    - re: roast levels, "there are no rules, so let your taste buds be the guide..."

    Now, these are both good answers, but I know from personal experience that they arent very satisfying for a newbie!




    Blending: youll be flying blind without having tasted each of the beans as a single origin - even if someone suggests a blend to try, you wont know which beans are contributing to which flavours without having tried them alone first. So I would highly recommend roasting a small batch of 3-4 different beans (roasting tips below), then cupping them a couple of days later. "Cupping", by the way, is slightly different to just "tasting" - description here.

    We try to do this with all our roasts, cupping 3-4 coffees side-by-side and at the end of the process deciding on what flavours would go well with the others. I posted a description of the process we went through in this thread.

    This should give you a good idea of what blend will work. But again, many here will suggest that you dont blend for now - and it is true that you dont need to, because all CS beans are very high quality (and blending came about as a way of hiding bad beans amongst the good...). But blending is fun.




    Roasting: theres a lot of info out there, and some of it is conflicting (simply because different people have different taste buds!). You will need to develop your own sense of the kinds of flavours you like, and roast so that you get the. For example, lately weve been roasting to lots of "deep" flavoured beans (Monsoon Malabar, Brazil Daterra, Sumatra Mandheling, any darker-roasted Centrals) and Ive been a little dissatisfied... but not known why. Until I realised that my palate NEEDS a blend to have some balancing acidity or fruitiness, say, from an Ethiopian Yirg or Harrar or a lighter-roasted Central...

    But for now, its probably a good idea to have a "standard" roast profile and level. I would aim for 10-12 mins to first crack, +5-6mins to second crack, then pull the roast just as seconds crack starts. Youll find some beans are perfect like this, while some (eg. Yirgacheffe) can hendle being pulled short of SC... others (Monsooned Robusta?) can handle a darker roast if youre after some "deeper" flavours.

    Those are some guidelines, but Id definitely suggest that you keep reading, keep your mind open, and keep observing and evaluating what results you get so that youre always learning how to improve.

    Cheers,
    Stuart.

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    Re: New to this ?

    Great advice Stuart.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    Thanks mate, :)
    Mal.

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    Re: New to this ?

    Good advice from Stuart Shane. Stick with the single origins until you become accustomed to the variables of the different beans and what you are looking for in a roast.
    I got into 3-4 bean blends for a while but have gone back to single origins and 2 bean blends lately.
    There is so much to learn when roasting but the best way to learn is get in there and experiment with different profiles and beans.
    Enjoy your roasting......................gm

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    Re: New to this ?

    Hi Stuart,

    Thankyou for your well thought out response. You are correct when you say its not very satisfying for a newbie! ( I agree with your answer)

    I guess a good part of all this is. Am i roasting the beans correctly?
    Is the temp correct ? I think I may have to spend some time reading about origins & what I can expect to get out of each one.

    I have been doing some small first crack batch roast it is quite amazing how the flavor changes after a few days.

    Thanks again Stuart ....................I think I need to go do some more roasting. ;)

    Shane

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    Re: New to this ?

    I am still not blending 99% of the time.

    It might take me quite some time yet before I feel the need to blend.



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