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    Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

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    After a lot of reading on CS about the B800ES, I decided to take the plunge and accept one for fathers day. *Mrs willyroo snaffled one with the grinder from GG Mt Gravatt for $288 :0 :).

    I bought a bag of Di Bella coffee from Espresso Lab in Annerley - good coffee (and coffee shop) btw.

    First brew - an OK coffee. *Plenty of experimentation, always just OK to sometimes good. *So back to CS, more reading, and a vague mention of a Krups basket.

    Next steps - contact the great team @ Pullman Tampers for a Krups unpressurised basket, and a strong recommendation for a tamper as well. *That was the key...Krups basket + good tamp.

    The BGC450 needs to be set at the finest grind setting (Turkish), and you need a very good tamper to make a quite firm tamp when using an unpressurised basket.

    Oh and I bought a decent frothing jug.

    The key to good coffee with this combo is:


    This combo gives a good 25 second extraction, and a shot to rival many coffee shops.

    Cons:

    The 800ES is hard to master frothing - however you do get it in the end. *Need to start steaming in a separate cup until the water runs through and converts to steam.

    The BGC450 is a b@st@rd to clean!!

    So if you are thinking about the 800ES, you can get good to very good coffee with care and the right - simple - modifications.



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    Re: Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by 352B2E2E3B302D2D420 link=1293682938/0#0 date=1293682938
    This combo gives a good 25 second extraction, and a shot to rival many coffee shops.
    25 seconds? Wow I didnt know anyone got 25s on an unmodified BCG450...

    Need to start steaming in a separate cup until the water runs through and converts to steam.
    same as the other Brevilles.

    The BGC450 is a b@st@rd to clean!!
    yep! I take out the top burr, use a brush to loosen the grinds, then tip the whole thing upside down and tap it over the sink.[/QUOTE]

    So if you are thinking about the 800ES, you can get good to very good coffee with care and the right - simple - modifications.
    I personally wouldnt recommend the BCG450 now that the smart grinder is out, and so cheap!

    PS welcome to the snobbery :)

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    Re: Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

    Thank you for the welcome...

    It is a slippery slope I know :)

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    Re: Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

    Ive also got this combo but still cant get any longer an extraction, with unpressurized basket and modded grinder. Am I missing something?

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    Re: Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

    Quote Originally Posted by 4B68676E6C7B7A090 link=1293682938/3#3 date=1301074613
    Am I missing something?
    Have you modified the BCG450?
    If not, theres the problem.

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    Re: Breville 800ES + BGC450 + mod = good coffee

    Modded grinder, yes. Clip removed so it can grind finer and an o ring to keep the top burr steady.

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    Just incase anyone is reading this, you need to take out the "second stop" as well.



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