25 seconds? Wow I didnt know anyone got 25s on an unmodified BCG450...Originally Posted by 352B2E2E3B302D2D420 link=1293682938/0#0 date=1293682938
same as the other Brevilles.Need to start steaming in a separate cup until the water runs through and converts to steam.
yep! I take out the top burr, use a brush to loosen the grinds, then tip the whole thing upside down and tap it over the sink.[/QUOTE]The BGC450 is a b@st@rd to clean!!
I personally wouldnt recommend the BCG450 now that the smart grinder is out, and so cheap!So if you are thinking about the 800ES, you can get good to very good coffee with care and the right - simple - modifications.
PS welcome to the snobbery :)