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    WillI get banned! Nespresso

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Perhaps I will get banned for asking such an outrageous question!
    But here goes!

    I have a rental place, for weekend stays.
    I was wondering if the Nespresso makes coffee a step better than instant.

    I would be surprised if it didn't.

    So does anyone have any enlightening comments to make.
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    Probably, but why pretend that they're the only two choices? Plunger / Aeropress / Mokapot / entry-level espresso machine with fresh beans (even if you have to grind them before you go....and seal them up) will give you better coffee.

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    We have the top of the range Nespresso at work. Used it once and never again. Aeropress, Lido, and freshly roasted beans for this little black duck. The display on the Nespresso pod container will show you all the delightful varieties of stale coffee on offer. A nice Ethiopian SO ground through a decent hand grinder will blow all of them away every time.
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    I will probably get banned too but as a newbie who doesn't have the money for a new set up and was given a Nespesso for a gift...I can say it is A good beginning. It set me on the path and for those who havent tried the complexity of a fresh ground single origin, they will be happy. I think it is great in a situation of short stay. Simple , no mess, none can really ruin your coffee machine. It has its place and for me it is much better than nescafe.

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    We attended a Christmas gathering of friends a week or so back, the hostess was dispensing coffee from a brand new $300 Nespresso device, she explained they couldn't be bothered with all of the pfaffing around that comes with espresso machines/grinders etc, realised the Nespresso didn't make the greatest coffee, however it was a convenience thing and in her opinion the coffee it dispensed was "good enough"

    And therein lies a big part of the answer, convenience, the trade off being quality or lack of.

    The majority of coffee drinkers will trade convenience for quality every time, I suspect we so called snobs are the ones marching to the beat of a different drum.

    BTW, I thought the coffee being served from the machine mentioned was horrible, barely recognizable as coffee, however most of the guests declared it good, were they being honest or massaging the truth, who knows

    All down to convenience and personal taste, or lack of, and as Coffeedreamer has just mentioned price certainly comes into the equation, we don't all have the resources to spend two or three thousand on coffee machinery.

    So, to all the pod users, Merry Christmas, enjoy your coffee, and to all the snobs, lets cut the pod users a little slack.
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    The answer is yes.

    We need to look we are a small minute subsection. My work has the Nespresso commercial machine. Is it drinkable. Yes. Is it as good as fresh coffee no.

    Someone in the car game explained this way to me.
    Instant is like driving on a hot day with no aircon. Sure you can do but it's not really comfortable

    Nespresso is is like driving a 15 year old Hyundai excel with air con. It's a lot better having air con and it does the job but you'll never hop out with a smile on your face.

    Fresh coffee is like driving a brand new car. You wake up and smile just knowing that you have great aircon all the comfort and might actually look forward to driving.

    So do I drink the Nespresso in work. Occasionally yes.
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    It's better than instant....but that's about as generous as I'm going to get. I hate pods with a passion, and not because the coffee out of them is ordinary.
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    For the rental I am looking for something better than instant, which I dislike with a passion, I once thought it was good.

    But beans, and an espresso machine are not for a rental.
    Too much to go wrong.

    So many thanks to all the contributors, your comments help.

    And yes I am a coffee snob too, my EM6910 with VST basket makes a very very drinkable shot.
    But no way would I put it in a rental.

    And I see you can buy reusable pods and fill them yourself.
    Perhaps I can grind my beans, pack the pods and see if it turns out any good.


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    Sorry, my post was next to useless.

    I'd be using an Aeropress before using a pod machine, even if I had to pre-grind the beans. (which wouldn't be my preference). The only time I wouldn't say that was if the drinker liked weak, blonded coffee.
    If I got a Nespresso as a gift, I'd be rude enough to re-gift it or sell it and buy an Aeropress, Moka pot, or pourover.
    I don't have many friends.
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    WillI get banned! Nespresso

    For a rental? Are you saying that you own a rental property of some sort and you are supplying a coffee machine for your tenants? Or are you living in a periodic rental and your 6910 is in storage? I don't understand, please explain.

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    If I were renting somewhere for a weekend holiday, I'd probably duck out to the local Cafe. If there wasn't one I'd drink instant or nothing, given its only a night or two. I'm not sure there's a between for me. HOWEVER if the place was selling the presence of a coffee maker as a value add, I'd feel compelled to use it (pod, espresso) just to get my money's worth. Depends if you think it'll make your place feel upmarket or not. I doubt casual coffee drinkers will care, and snobs won't use it anyway, so don't reckon it's worth the bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    For a rental? Are you saying that you own a rental property of some sort and you are supplying a coffee machine for your tenants? Or are you living in a periodic rental and your 6910 is in storage? I don't understand, please explain.
    I own a house we are letting out for weekends, like a holiday home.

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    We stay in B&B's a bit and many have Nespresso. I prefer my aeropress but my wife and friends usually go for the Nespresso. (I think they take pity on me as I sit there with my hand grinder). Needs to be looked after though. One of the places we go to doesn't and that one isn't as good as instant. Bit of kitchen bling never hurts anyway.

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    Go to your nearest Nespresso shop/demo-stand (in a department store) and sample. I think it is quite a few steps above instant. So that's precisely what you're after.

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    WillI get banned! Nespresso

    Quote Originally Posted by rawill View Post
    I own a house we are letting out for weekends, like a holiday home.
    Ah ok. So it's not a necessity just an extra luxury for your guests. Personally I'd prefer a high quality plunger and a basic conical burr grinder. You could provide preground in a bag or sachets, but the presence of a grinder means the guests can bring or buy their own fresh beans if they wish. Don't forget that the humble plunger is still the most used domestic coffee 'appliance' in New Zealand so most people are happy to use one.
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    My daughter and husband are always round for coffee, they had a pod machine, so I bought some silicon refillable pods that would fit their machine. They brought the pod machine round and I ground some of my coffee to suit the refillable pod. It took two changes in grind to get a decent cup of coffee, here's where I was shocked - it was a decent cup of coffee. Not as good as my machine, but a million times better than the bought pods. I supplied them with coffee until their machine died and now they have a starter espresso machine. They still come round for coffee though
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Ah ok. So it's not a necessity just an extra luxury for your guests.
    Yes, exactly, just something a little upmarket from instant, but easy to use.
    And I do like the idea of experimenting with it and filling refilable pods as per another post on here.

    We like Hummingbird, so could try with some of their beans.

    Rbn

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    Nespresso is perfect for what your talking about. Don't get the milk one. I stay in a fair few hotels and some of the upmarket ones are putting in Nespresso ones in the room. A commercial looking one. They are great when you wake up and want something but your averse to putting on clothes or getting room service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawill View Post
    I own a house we are letting out for weekends, like a holiday home.
    Ahhhh.....well that changes things somewhat. Why does it matter what you like drinking? Something like the Nespresso, and/or just a plunger with small sealed packets of ground coffee) will impress most tenants more than instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Ahhhh.....well that changes things somewhat. Why does it matter what you like drinking? Something like the Nespresso, and/or just a plunger with small sealed packets of ground coffee) will impress most tenants more than instant.
    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty888 View Post
    Nespresso is perfect for what your talking about. Don't get the milk one. I stay in a fair few hotels and some of the upmarket ones are putting in Nespresso ones in the room. A commercial looking one. They are great when you wake up and
    Tend to agree, a holiday rental or hotel room is where a Nespresso machine makes sense.

    Way better than instant, neat clean and foolproof.

    Also agree avoid the milk one. Yuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawill View Post
    Perhaps I will get banned for asking such an outrageous question!
    But here goes!

    I have a rental place, for weekend stays.
    I was wondering if the Nespresso makes coffee a step better than instant.

    I would be surprised if it didn't.

    So does anyone have any enlightening comments to make.

    G'day Robin

    I just posted http://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-co...tml#post569347 about pods a few minutes ago.

    Using refillable pods / fresh roast and a good (no plastic) machine and you can supply your guests with a pretty good cuppa (better than most aeropresses in my view, but then so is my "chemical stirrer / modded plunger"). Basically in terms of taste: different strokes, different folks. Yep, the Nespresso milk froth is a bad joke, however a small plunger and a microwave (or even one of those specialised frothers) can do that at a pinch.

    Finding any decent coffee maker at a B & B / motel / hotel is always a huge bonus to a weary traveller: I still remember one in the '80's at Byron Bay: they brought freshly plunged coffee from Zeitgeist as soon as you informed them you were awake... then left some freshly ground coffee and the plunger for you to do more later. Needless to say, we used to vary our timetable to stay over once or twice every trip.

    I also agree with you that supplying a full setup (grinder and espresso machine) is just asking for trouble. You would be lucky to go two weekends without a breakdown.

    Have a great XMas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aoeu View Post
    Go to your nearest Nespresso shop/demo-stand (in a department store) and sample. I think it is quite a few steps above instant. So that's precisely what you're after.
    +1

    On the odd occasion that I go to my local shopping centre (maybe 4 times a year), I visit the Nespresso shop posing as an interested buyer.

    Once I have explained what a cortado is, they usually make me a double shot with one of the darker roasts, and it is definitely drinkable. As good as GJ or Coffee Club, plus its free!
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    If you think that Nespresso is better than Aeropress you're not using your Aeropress right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    If you think that Nespresso is better than Aeropress you're not using your Aeropress right.
    I guess that's a good example of why Nespresso is good for guest accomodation.

    It's virtually impossible to stuff it up, even with no prior experience with the equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    I guess that's a good example of why Nespresso is good for guest accomodation.

    It's virtually impossible to stuff it up, even with no prior experience with the equipment.
    Yeah I agree. I'm patently against Nespresso due to the overpriced, stale coffee that they're peddling and the extreme wastage generated by the single use pods (yes, they can be recycle, but it's still not that easy). But I actually agree that a Nespresso would be a good fit in this situation, especially if rawill will be supplying quality coffee in reusable pods.
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    Thank you all.

    This has been an interesting discussion and I appreciate your opinions.

    I am reasonably sure that once I have done my home work on which pod machine to get I will go ahead.
    Especially thanks for the tips on the no frother models or attachements unless they are good quality aftemarket versions.

    While our rental is not too upmarket, I thought if Nespresso could give a better than instant coffee drink the guest could be really happy.

    I can see I will need to get the reusable pods, and fill them, no issue there, see the gear I already use at home.

    Unless our visitors are just humouring me, I hope not!, they all say the really like the coffee I give them.
    And I use Hummingbird beans, only just roasted.

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    Pods and Capsules are NOT the same thing...

    Whether you believe that Pods or Capsules are capable of producing decent coffee aside, they are quite different devices and require different machinery to use....

    See attached...

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    We have one at the firestation, and one of the other brigades in the group has one on their fire appliance! There is nothing better on the fireground, but I avoid using the one in the station Just saying..

    /Kevin

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    Normally I use my BCG800+EM6910 combo. But I do have a Nespresso Pixie machine that I used to put in my parents' weekend home.
    Now that my grinder is broken and out for repair, the Nespresso has been my saver. I'd rather have Nespresso than instant coffee.
    I do miss the versatility of trying different beans, though.
    For those who managed to find suitable refillable capsules, which one did you get? The plastic ones, or the metal ones?

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    I don't know, but have noted that others say definitely not the plastic ones.

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    Whoops, missed that bit. Thanks, @rawill.
    I'll look for the metal one then

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawill View Post
    I don't know, but have noted that others say definitely not the plastic ones.
    That's twice I just posted on http://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-co...tml#post569485 before getting to this thread.

    All plastics are far from equal, most are using cheap PVC / PVA or similar and yes, they taste terrible. So did every single metal pod, especially the aluminium ones with a coating of (??? some unidentified crud). Fortunately the EU guys have a good food grade standard* so most of them do not overpower the coffee with a tainted flavour. Some (er, most) of them still leave a noticeable aftertaste.

    We tested well over 50 models of pods** comprising of a wide variety of materials and only two went to a second round of taste testing: both EU food grade plastic, both one shot (i.e not easily refillable). BTW, some of the notes from the failures make interesting reading.

    I can get the details of the winners next time I am there if you wish (PM me).

    Good luck with your weekender B & B.


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    * Are you listening Australia? Thanks to JH for making our food labelling damn near meaningless: the b*****d must have got some commercial pressure, if not an outright bribe.

    ** Actually capsules, according to the Dimal post. Although now the makers & consumers generally call them pods, I totally give up on that debate: the "real pods" in a cloth bag have been mainly from Phillips and taste both truly awful and stale at the same time. "They will never be missed" (Gilbert & Sullivan). Reminds me of my Carmencitas aka moka pot aka stovetop espresso pot - as long as people know what you mean it is fair enough... Oh, and as a computer guy, don't even get me started on routers / modems.
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